Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[Tshering22]

^^ So we are going all-Israeli with the small arms department eh? How good would it be if DRDO could for once quit their ego and seek partnership with IMI to jointly make a decent FINSAS assault rifle? I mean multi-caliber will be standard isn't it? SO if we fund them and form a JV, we would be free from US nosing around and Israel would only be too happy.

The last thing we would want in FINSAS is US co-making the future multi- caliber rifle and then pressing Israel to ban its sale to us. They've already proven their reliability with destruction of more than a dozen countries worldwide.

 

[Armand2REP]

Indian Navy commandos to be armed with Israeli rifles
http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=local&newsid=215958

How hard is it for DRDO to develop a decent assault rifle? They make planes, tanks, helicopters... but nothing Indian commandos want?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

How hard is it for DRDO to develop a decent assault rifle? They make planes, tanks, helicopters... but nothing Indian commandos want?

Only if they asked..

Btw, FINSAS is in making..

 

[pavanvenkatesh]

Great another import it is a shame that even after half a century of the learning curve our DPSU's and OFB's we still cant even provide our armed forces a decent rifle or a carbine,this is sad. We put our armed forces @ the mercy of forign vendors and dealers.

 

[black eagle]

Only if they asked..

Btw, FINSAS is in making..

But FINSAS is not a gun.. its the project for building various systems & subsystems that a infantry soldier of the future would require... Armand's question was specifically about assault rifles...

 

[Kunal Biswas]

But FINSAS is not a gun.. its the project for building various systems & subsystems that a infantry soldier of the future would require... Armand's question was specifically about assault rifles...

Under FINSAS Program:

# Clothing
# Helmet
# Communication and Electronics
# Rifle which include optics and other attachments
# Boots
# Camouflage


The rifle is a multicaliber which means caliber conversion kits with the rifle on battlefield..
The 5.56 variant is for regulars and that is what i meant ..

 

[Koovie]

Wow this sounds very good

 

[sandeepdg]

Under FINSAS Program:

# Clothing
# Helmet
# Communication and Electronics
# Rifle which include optics and other attachments
# Boots
# Camouflage


The rifle is a multicaliber which means caliber conversion kits with the rifle on battlefield..
The 5.56 variant is for regulars and that is what i meant ..

It all looks good on paper, let see when it finally takes shape !

 

[Kunal Biswas]

 

[Crusader53]

Considering India vast experience with Harriers. Now would be a good time to pick up GR9's from the UK. Which, India could use from her forthcoming LPD's/LHA's.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Considering India vast experience with Harriers. Now would be a good time to pick up GR9's from the UK. Which, India could use from her forthcoming LPD's/LHA's.

In that sense why don't u say F-35B?

India will have 5 LPD/LHAs in future..

 

[Crusader53]

In that sense why don't u say F-35B?

India will have 5 LPD/LHAs in future..

Well, for a couple reasons. Mainly, because the GR9's are available now and India already has Harrier Experience. Of course that doesn't preclude India from ordering F-35B's down the road.......


Think of the GR9's as a cheap stop-gap......

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Well, for a couple reasons. Mainly, because the GR9's are available now and India already has Harrier Experience. Of course that doesn't preclude India from ordering F-35B's down the road.......
Think of the GR9's as a cheap stop-gap......

Actually its easy to go for small no of F-35B, Its undoubted that F-35 handling is much better than harriers..

Also

F-35B from this small Vessels can do some major surveillance to far reaches of Ocean not to mention kind of ordinance it can deploy..
F-35b in small no is no harm for IN..

Equipping big carriers is another game..

 

[Parthy]

Indian Navy to decommission INS Virat by 2018

Set to induct two aircraft carriers by the middle of the decade, Indian Navy is planning to decommission its lone warship capable of operating fighter jets – INS Virat, in another seven years.

"We are expecting the Russian-built INS Vikramaditya and the indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC) by 2017.

After receiving the two warships, we will go ahead with the decommissioning of INS Virat," a senior Navy official said here.

He added that though after the upgrades, INS Virat would be available for use till 2018, it would be decommissioned after the two other ships arrive.

INS Virat has been in service for the last 50 years and has undergone a number of upgrades to allow the Navy to operate at least one carrier.

At present, the $2.33 billion INS Vikramaditya is being refurbished in Russia and is expected to join the Navy by the end of 2013.

"The IAC is expected to be launched by the end of this year and we hope that it will take another five to six years to join operational service," officials said.

The Indian Navy plans to deploy a carrier on each of its two seaboards to protect and safeguard its assets in its area of interest ranging from the Hormuz strait in west to the Malacca strait in the east.

On the follow-on ships of the IAC, the officials said the size of the future indigenous aircraft carriers would depend on the type of fighter aircraft that the Navy chooses in the near future.

At present, the Navy operates the British-origin Sea Harrier aircraft and has recently placed orders for 45 new MiG 29K aircraft for operating on INS Vikramaditya.

It is also looking to induct the naval version of the LCA, which is expected to be ready by the time the IAC joins service.


http://www.brahmand.com/news/Indian-Navy-to-decommission-INS-Virat-by-2018/6096/1/10.html

 

[Parthy]

India Navy to induct new fleet tanker on Friday

Expanding its strategic reach, Indian Navy will induct a new Italy-made fleet tanker on Friday in its inventory boosting its blue-water capabilities.

The tanker, christened INS Deepak, is being inducted under a 159 million Euros contract for procuring two fleet tankers, of which the second one would be inducted by the middle of this year, Navy officials said here.

INS Deepak and Shakti have been built in Italy by European defence major Fincantieri Cantieri Navali and will join the two older fleet tankers, INS Jyoti and INS Aditya, being operated by Navy.

Fleet tankers help in extending the operational range of naval warships including destroyers, frigates and other warships to operate away from shores for longer periods without returning to harbour for replenishment.

With a full-load displacement of 27,500 tonnes, the 175-metre long INS Deepak will be able to carry 17,900 tonnes of cargo, including 15,250 tonnes of fuel. Equipped with four AK-630 guns, the large ship has an endurance of 10,000 nautical miles at a speed of 16 knots.

Under its doctrine, the Navy has cleared its intent to develop a maritime force with capabilities to protect its interests and assets in its area of influence.

The Navy has embarked on a major modernisation programme as it has placed orders for over 40 warships with Indian shipyards, which include the six Scorpene submarines and the indigenous aircraft carrier.

Its biggest warship, aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya, is also undergoing refit at a Russian shipyard and three more Talwar-class stealth frigates are being built in Russia.

The Navy is also working on a programme for acquiring six submarines under Project-75 India and also plans to procure Landing Platform Decks (LPDs) in near future.


http://www.brahmand.com/news/India-Navy-to-induct-new-fleet-tanker-on-Friday/6095/1/10.html

 

[Tshering22]

"We are expecting the Russian-built INS Vikramaditya and the indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC) by 2017.

At present, the $2.33 billion INS Vikramaditya is being refurbished in Russia and is expected to join the Navy by the end of 2013.

I think our over-zealous reporter meant that BOTH would be operational together by 2017 which is quite okay. Take a look.. next few lines later the reporter contradicts his own report.

Vikramaditya will be handed to IN by Yantar in 2012 end and then trials and induction will begin 2013. 2014 Vikrant II will go for trials and 2015 we will have Vikrant II operational as well. IAC-2 (Vishaal ?) will commence development in 2017 and come out in estimated time of 2020-22. That is the proposed plan.

 

[Tshering22]

Actually its easy to go for small no of F-35B, Its undoubted that F-35 handling is much better than harriers..

Also

F-35B from this small Vessels can do some major surveillance to far reaches of Ocean not to mention kind of ordinance it can deploy..
F-35b in small no is no harm for IN..

Operational cost for small number will be a strain in IN since we are already operating 2 different types of fighters: the migs and N-Tejas. Getting a third foreign and that too stealth platform would be killer costly and will be full of strings. Also if you know, the B variant of JSF will be having lesser range than the other two. Right now B is the reason why the entire JSF has been delayed to 2014.

We are not big enough to turn IN's air arm into an IAF-style zoo of different brands.

 

[rakesh]

The Pakistan Navy is reportedly negotiating for the purchase of 3 Type 214 submarines, all of which to be built in Pakistan. During the IDEAS 2008 exhibition, the HDW chief Walter Freitag told "The commercial contract has been finalised up to 95 per cent," he said. The first submarine would be delivered to the Pakistan Navy in 64 months after signing of the contract while the rest would be completed successively in 12 months.[5][6]
In November of 2008, Pakistan signed a contract for three Type 214 submarines at a cost of $1 Billion. The Type 214 submarines will be built with German help at Karachi Naval Engineering Works

Why India allocate $11 billion for same class submarine ?

 

[mdmsprashu]

India to order additional 3 submarines in addition to 6 scorpene submarines from french....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1BrmJ6yKkI&feature=player_embedded

I hope its not a repost..

 

[rakesh]

India to order additional 3 submarines in addition to 6 scorpene submarines from french....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1BrmJ6yKkI&feature=player_embedded

I hope its not a repost..

I am talking about project 75I which rpf has released.In this project govt. of India allocate $11 billion.