Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[Rahul Singh]

'No more imported warships'

Thu Nov 11 2010, 01:48 hrs
New Delhi:

In a significant announcement, Defence Minister A K Antony has indicated that the Indian Navy will no longer rely on imports when it comes to warships as all future procurements will be made in India. The minister also announced that private shipbuilders in the country will be given a level playing field and will have to compete with public sector shipyards for defence contracts.

Antony said that in January, the Defence Ministry will come up with a new procurement policy that will contain 'drastic steps' to speed up the goal of decreasing dependence of imports for defence platforms. Antony said that at the moment, almost 70 per cent of defence equipment is imported.

Conceding that the public sector undertakings alone will not be able to meet the requirements of the Armed Forces, Antony said that the ministry is formulating a new policy to give the private sector more opportunities. Antony hinted that the Navy would be the first force to get rid of dependence on foreign suppliers for major platforms.

 

[warriorextreme]

there is going to be exhibition on vikrant in mumbai from 13th to 28th november for upcoming navy day..

 

[Armand2REP]

There isn't much excuse for India not being able to build any hull that they need. Of course, imported components for the ships will continue for some time.

 

[RAM]

India to allow private shipyards to manufacture naval ships

In a major policy shift, the Indian government will allow private Indian shipyards to construct naval ships, an activity which was previously limited to state owned ship building companies. This will open up the field for foreign investment in Indian shipyards and see a major infusion of technology and finance into the domestic shipbuilding industry.

The Indian Navy has one of the most ambitious ship induction programs in the world as part of its master plan to become a blue water navy in the 21st century. The Defence Minister A K Antony has said that starting Janaury 2011, state owned shipyards will have to compete with private ones for ship building contracts.

"Government has taken a decision that from January 2011 onwards, the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) will not give any nominations to the defence shipyards for Naval projects and they will have to compete with the private shipyards for the tenders," Antony said Wednesday in a report quoted to a news agency. The Government will procure equipment for the Navy under 'Buy Indian Make Indian' category where both PSU and private sector shipyards will have to compete for tenders, he said. He said initially the policy would be applicable for Navy only, gradually it would be extended to acquisition by the Indian Army and Air Force as well forces.

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=13773

 

[smartindian]

Indian Navy is planning to buy propulsion vehicles for its diving teams that would enable them to carry out undersea clearing operations during combat in quicker time.

The Navy has issued a request to manufacturers of the original equipment for furnishing details of their products for a likely future global tender for the equipment, a Navy officer said here Sunday.

"The diver propulsion vehicle's essential role is to enhance performance of naval clearance diving teams during combat operations. The DPV will increase the reach of the naval combat diver thereby directly affecting the combat role outcome," the officer said.

The DPV's length will be not more than three metres and it will weigh less than 80 kg. Driven by an electric battery, the vehicle will be able to carry two divers at a time in operating depths of 30 metres.

It will have a submerged speed of two knots and range of four nautical miles, while the surface speed would be 1.5 knots and range 2.5 nautical miles.

One of the conditions for the DPV that the Navy will consider before buying is minimum noise, both on surface and underwater, so that a stealthy diving operation can be carried out without the enemy detecting them, the officer said.

The shelf life of its battery will be three years and charging time less than 12 hours.

"We are looking for a light weight, portable DPV with compact and robust design to withstand extreme environmental conditions including pressure and temperatures from minus 15 to 40 degree Celsius," the officer said.

The DPV will be deployable from air or boat and easy to operate with user-friendly controls, inbuilt navigation systems with depth gauges.

"The battery-operated propulsion system will be capable of functioning while submerged without requirement to recharge for at least 3 hours," he said.

http://www.brahmand.com/news/Indian-Navy-plans-to-procure-diver-propulsion-vehicles/5473/1/10.html

 

[anoop_mig25]

^^^^ what d u think can this be easily detected by sonars?

 

[Rage]

Indian Navy is planning to buy propulsion vehicles for diving teams

:special29: And they publicize this?

 

[black eagle]

Anti-Piracy Operation By Indian Navy

On Nov 11, 2010 about 450 nautical miles West of Mumbai, a merchant ship MV BBC Orinoco with a crew of 14 (5 Ukraine and 9 Philippino) reported being attacked by pirates. The crew locked themselves in the ships Engine room and the Steering compartment and communicated with their agents, UK MTO Dubai, on e-mail. Dubai, in turn, intimated the Indian Navy for assistance.
On receipt of this information, the Indian Navy promptly detached one of its Missile Corvettes, INS Veer, to intercept the distressed vessel and also sailed a capital ship INS Delhi with a team of Marine Commandos (MARCOS) embarked. One of the Navy's Long Range Maritime Patrol Aircraft was extensively deployed for aerial surveillance. The Indian Coast Guard, too, responded with alacrity adjusting all routine deployments to keep one or more Dornier aircraft on hot standby, besides asking their ships on assigned mission to be also on stand-by.

At daybreak, the naval forces, which had arrived at the scene, commenced their actions. MARCOS slithered onto the merchant ship from a Sea King helicopter and took the crew, who were locked in compartments, to safety, while the helicopter provided air borne fire support. The merchantman was boarded by naval personnel and a thorough search is currently in progress. The ship will set course for its destination once the boarding party reports all clear. Although no pirates remain onboard, implements such as crow bar, knives etc., were found aboard the ship.
MV BBC Orinoco is a General Cargo Carrier and is registered in Antigua and Barbuda.
DPR

http://chhindits.blogspot.com/2010/11/anti-piracy-operation-by-indian-navy.html

 

[blade]

Induction of akula ii a massive strategic blunder by india

Another few months & Indian navy will induct the most powerful warship in the history when 12000 Tn huge akula SSN joins the fleet.Most silent of its kind ever made by russia, indian chakra - II will certainly play a great hunter killer role but as far as providing India with any credible second strike capability it will remain to be the biggest disappointment. Indian chakra -II will not carry a single SLCM in its armory. I personally feel that this particular acquisition by Indian navy will not only be a white elephant will also emerge as highly counter productive in the mid to long run keeping the present strategic ambiance in south asia in mind. I will follow up with relevant arguments to prove my point here and leave the final verdict on the learned members of DFI.

I. Reminiscing the chronology and developmental history of the earlier vital strategic projects and JVs in mind (such as time taken by India to develop and mature its nuclear and missile arsenal, transfer of cryogenic tech and indigenous development , range of Brahmos , developmental time for ATV etc )its highly unlikely that Russia being a signatory of NPT/MTCR will ever provide India with her deadly long range SLBMs clandestinely.

II. It will provide Pakistan with the unique opportunity to harbor one of the Chinese SSNs which will severely affect Indian strategic options.This will also pose a great danger to our national security.While indigenous ATV was the best first move from Indian POV, a rejuvenated impetus for further enhancement of technology & kills in this area through open or clandestine JV's with nations like Russia or France would have been a true long term solution. Pakistan has already offered her ports for complete Chinese access !!! This is only the beginning,in a matter of time we will see some 1/2 Chinese SSNs being taken on lease by Pakistan under similar type of agreement that India has signed with Russia but the only deference will be the real presence of Chinese SLM's which will be strongly denied by china as well understandable. Just as Pakistan took the opportunity of Indo Us unke civil nuke deal to build up its military nuke capability, induction of akula II will again provide them with another opportunity to gain a very very threatening second strike capability along with clear Chinese presence within dangerous vicinity of our country.

III. If it is only about training our crews for an SSN platform then that can even be achieved by paying money to Russia & getting the training done in their sea.Still we can avoid this messy & imprudent decision with some smart & cunning politics by GOI. Go for a secret meeting US & convince them about Indian plan to relinquish the akula deal with Russia provided they can convince pakistan not to do a similar deal with china.With the kind of obsession US have over any kind of nuke proliferation the possibility of success in such an offer might not be very less.On the other hand India can step up her quest for indigenous ATV project because anything similar for Pakistan will be very very tough from technological ground while it will have a telling effect on their already shattered economy.Even if china provides funds for such project it will take at least 10 long years before Pakistan could come any where near to a SSN without tooth while achieving SLCMs will be even more difficult , time consuming & wealth eating for them.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

I. Reminiscing the chronology and developmental history of the earlier vital strategic projects and JVs in mind (such as time taken by India to develop and mature its nuclear and missile arsenal, transfer of cryogenic tech and indigenous development , range of Brahmos , developmental time for ATV etc )its highly unlikely that Russia being a signatory of NPT/MTCR will ever provide India with her deadly long range SLBMs clandestinely.

II. It will provide Pakistan with the unique opportunity to harbor one of the Chinese SSBNs which will severely affect Indian strategic options.This will also pose a great danger to our national security.While indigenous ATV was the best first move from Indian POV, a rejuvenated impetus for further enhancement of technology & kills in this area through open or clandestine JV's with nations like Russia or France would have been a true long term solution. Pakistan has already offered her ports for complete Chinese access !!! This is only the beginning,in a matter of time we will see some 1/2 Chinese SSBNs being taken on lease by Pakistan under similar type of agreement that India has signed with Russia but the only deference will be the real presence of Chinese SLBM's which will be strongly denied by china as well understandable. Just as Pakistan took the opportunity of Indo Us unke civil nuke deal to build up its military nuke capability, induction of akula II will again provide them with another opportunity to gain a very very threatening second strike capability along with clear Chinese presence within dangerous vicinity of our country.

III. If it is only about training our crews for an SSBN platform then that can even be achieved by paying money to Russia & getting the training done in their sea.Still we can avoid this messy & imprudent decision with some smart & cunning politics by GOI. Go for a secret meeting US & convince them about Indian plan to relinquish the akula deal with Russia provided they can convince pakistan not to do a similar deal with china.With the kind of obsession US have over any kind of nuke proliferation the possibility of success in such an offer might not be very less.On the other hand India can step up her quest for indigenous ATV project because anything similar for Pakistan will be very very tough from technological ground while it will have a telling effect on their already shattered economy.Even if china provides funds for such project it will take at least 10 long years before Pakistan could come any where near to a SSBN without tooth while achieving SLBMs will be even more difficult , time consuming & wealth eating for them.

1. AKULA submarines are primarily SSN, AKULA arsenal is torpedoes and SLCM Not SLBM, Russians don't matter here much as India Already devoted in making SLBM based on AGNI class BM which will be used on Arihant class SSNBs..

2. Getting AKULA from Russian wont stop Chinese to use SSN around Indian sea Coasts openly or discreetly!, China already have numerous naval bases around India where IN never made any attempt to secure bases against Chinese navel bases this moves only show China have a offensive ideas where IN is in defensive posture , AKULA and Arihant are made for INDIAN OCEANS region, Where PLAN have Submarine operations against Indian and US assets,AKULA2 role is escorting Arihant safely to desired locations..

akula II will again provide them with another opportunity to gain a very very threatening second strike capability along with clear Chinese presence within dangerous vicinity of our country.

My previous statement clears the fact abt PLAN submarines are in Indian Ocean therefore If tomorrow PN gets Chinese SSN they can argue that IN already fielded CHARLIE class Nuke Sub, So based on past, its their time to field such technology, We have no right to protest such argument But Increase our capabilities..


3. PN cannot effort a Nuke Sub therefore they are getting 8 diesel-electric Subs to counter IN 10 diesel-electric subs in futrue in Arabian sea only, Where the Chinese are opening a another front in Indian Ocean where Arihant and AKULAS are standing to counter such thread, Besides all this Information PLAN only have 2-3 SSNB stationed in China sea and Pacific Ocean, Indian Ocean is a least priority from Chinese SSNB

Type-94SSNB only 2 exists..

 

[Patriot]

India deploying indigenous coastal surveillance system

BANGALORE (BNS): India is installing along its long coastline a sophisticated surveillance system
capable of tracking movements as distant as 20 kms in the sea with a command and control centre in Delhi from where the entire coast can be monitored, officials said here.

Civil works to put in place the system, comprising a radar, electro-optic sensor and command and control software are underway.

With the system, "we can monitor any square inch of the entire sea of the country and see visually," said I V Sarma, Director (R&D) of Bangalore-headquartered BEL, a defence electronics company, which developed the system for the Coast Guard.

In the first phase, these surveillance stations would come up in 46 sensitive coastal locations by next year-end.

The idea is to start the deployment with the west coast, sources at Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL) said.

"Trials (for testing the system) are over and a formal contract will be signed with the government before December end," Sarma, adding "we will start putting equipment from January onwards".

Though contract negotiations have not been completed, BEL expects the first phase order to be worth Rs 500 crore to Rs 600 crore.

"We hope to install and commission the system (first phase in 46 locations) in the next 10 months to one year (from January next year)," he said.

While surveillance stations are being put up in sensitive areas in the first phase, the subsequent second and third phase to be taken up would address the 'gaps' to ensure that the entire coastal region is covered.

Sarma said cameras in the coastal surveillance system operate during day and night as well in low-light conditions.

BEL has been working on this project for about a year.

"The set-up cameras are used for a range of 20 km. Both radars and camera are capable of going up to a distance of 20 kms into the sea," he said.

Remote operating stations and remote regional operating centres are being set up at local and regional levels in different parts of the country, besides a command and control centre in Delhi.

"You can see a complete a coastline picture. You can select any zone and see what's happening," Sarma said.

Data fusion from signals from the radar and electro-optic sensor would help identify a target, cameras can be activated and zoomed into it to take visuals of targets 20 kms in sea and "see exactly what's happening in the ship or boat or anything.

"So that's the type of power we give to a person sitting in Delhi. We can monitor any square inch of the entire sea of the country and see visually," he added.



http://www.brahmand.com/news/India-deploying-indigenous-coastal-surveillance-system/5508/1/14.html

 

[neo29]

Warships opened to public in Kolkata

The Indian Navy has allowed people to visit its two war ships, INS Airavat and INS Savitri, in Kolkata to spread awareness about its functions.

The ships have been opened to the public to acquaint the people with the role and the activities the Navy.

The two days event is being held in connection with the Navy Week Celebrations, which is held to celebrate the Navy Day on December 4, the day on which the Indian Navy attacked the Pakistani coast in the 1971 war.

The INS Airavat plays a vital role in the Indian Navy and it is used for landing operations, helps to land troops and tanks to support the Army operations among others.

With a capacity of lifting 500 troops, 10 tanks and 11 combat trucks, the ship is indeed a logistical marvel on the high seas.

The INS Savitri is used for offshore patrolling on the sea. The ship has also been deployed for various expeditionary missions and has taken patrols off Sri Lanka, Maldives, Seychelles and Mauritius. Savitri also carries Chetak, Sea King and Kamov 28 helicopters. By Ajitha Menon

idrw.org

 

[Patriot]

Indian Navy Seeks Diver Propulsion Vehicles

India's navy is set to purchase advanced diving equipment in order to speed up deep sea clearing missions within operational deployments. A request for information has been issued to the defence firms that presently manufacture DPVs (Diver Propulsion Vehicles) and, further down the line, the maritime branch of the Indian armed forces will move to invite tenders for an eventual contract.

India has a number of DPV specifications, within which limited size, limited weight and durability are all key demands. "We are looking for a light weight, portable DPV with compact and robust design to withstand extreme environmental conditions including pressure and temperatures from minus 15 to 40 degree Celsius", an unnamed Indian military official told online news portal Brahmand.

DPVs/ Diver Propulsion Vehicles have been in military service for many decades. During WW2, manned torpedoes were deployed, undercover, by Allied forces against enemy vessels. Modern-day DPV operations are performed by units including the US Maritime Special Purpose Force – a division of the US Marines. They use the MRCC (Multi-Role Combatant Craft), which is effectively a small-scale submarine used to transport US military personnel into harbours and other sites.

The Indian Navy requires powered diving technology that's three metres or less in length, that weighs less than 80 kilograms and that can dive to 30 metres below the surface while carrying two Indian naval personnel. Additionally, the Indian Navy DPV will need to be able to travel at two knots while under water and one-and-a-half knots when on the waves, and have under/over-water ranges of four nautical miles and two-and-a-half nautical miles, respectively.

A low-observable profile is also needed, to enable diving operations to be performed without alerting enemy forces. Therefore, the Indian DPV design will need to incorporate noise reduction technologies, to some extent.

Finally, the platform must be able to be sent into action by releasing it from a boat, or dropping it from an aircraft flying at low-level, and it must offer a straightforward control system. "The diver propulsion vehicle's essential role is to enhance performance of naval clearance diving teams during combat operations", the Indian official added. "The DPV will increase the reach of the naval combat diver thereby directly affecting the combat role outcome."






http://www.india-defence.com/reports-4821

 

[ironman]

 

[black eagle]

'Rouge' ship intercepted, proceeds towards Mumbai

An Indian Navy warship on Tuesday (November 23) successfully intercepted a fleeing merchant ship off Diu coast. The Navy intercepted a Bahamas-flagged merchant vessel -- MV Dynamic Striker, which was heading towards Pakistan waters.

"Naval warship INS Agray fired warning shots ahead of the fleeing merchant ship's bow and stopped it. It is being escorted back to Mumbai," a defence spokesperson said.

The joint operation by Navy and Coast Guard followed a police complaint about the merchant ship fleeing Mumbai port without completing necessary formalities, the spokesperson said.

Initially, efforts to establish contacts with the fleeing ship failed as it had switched off the communication system on board.

The Navy and the Coast guard have intercepted the Bahamas-flagged merchant vessel after it went missing on Monday from the Mumbai port trust.

The ship was carrying metallic coal but failed to offload its cargo in Mumbai. The ship was likely to move to Dubai and other areas including Pakistan. The rogue ship was shadowed for a long time and the fishermen were asked to stay at bay.

The ship did not stop despite several warning from the navy. Finally, INS Agray fired a warning shot following which the ship stopped. On their arrival at the Mumbai port, the coastal authorities would investigate the content carried on board as well as would interrogate the crew members.


http://www.timesnow.tv/Rouge-ship-intercepted-proceeds-towards-Mumbai/articleshow/4358941.cms

 

[Patriot]

Indian Navy Accords Rousing Reception To Asiad Silver Medallists In Sailing

The Indian Sailing team of Lt Cdr (Retd) F Tarapore and team mates Cdr Atool Sinha, CPO (MA) Balraj, POR (Tel) Shekhar Singh Yadav and Trunal were accorded a warm welcome at New Delhi by the Indian Navy and the Yachting Association of India (YAI) after winning a Silver Medal in the Match Racing event at the ongoing Asian Games 2010.

Lt Cdr (Retd) F Tarapore, had won the Fireball class gold medal as crew of Zarir Karanjia in the 1982 Asian Games sailing regatta held off the Mumbai harbor and also picked up a hat-trick of bronze medals in the Asian Games held between 1986 and 1994 in different classes of boats.

The Indian Naval Watermanship Training Centre, Mumbai has been a training centre for champion sailors and has produced 13 Arjuna awardees, 02 Rajiv Gandhi Khel Ratna awardees and 01 Dronacharya awardee for the sport in the past 40 years.

The YAI was formally constituted on 15 May 1960 and was registered under the Societies Registration Act XXVI of 1961 on 22 December 1964 at Calcutta, West Bengal. The YAI is affiliated to the International Sailing Federation (ISAF), which is recognised by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) as the governing authority for sailing worldwide.

The YAI is officially recognised by the Ministry of Youth Affairs and Sports, Government of India and the Indian Olympic Association as the governing authority for sailing, windsurfing, motor boating, powerboat racing and personal watercraft, at sea and on inland waters in India.







http://chhindits.blogspot.com/2010/11/indian-navy-accords-rousing-reception.html

 

[Patriot]

On Board The Indian Navy's Hippopotamus OF War

Just casted off on the INS Jalashwa from Visakhapatnam. Photos from the bridgetop.







http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/11/on-board-indian-navys-hippopotamus-of.html

 

[black eagle]

Some more...

http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/11/from-somewhere-in-bay-of-bengal.html

 

[Patriot]

Arrest arms import trends, says Indian Navy Chief

NEW DELHI (PTI): Favouring self-reliance in military technologies and weapons production, Navy Chief Admiral Nirmal Verma Wednesday said India should arrest the trend of importing arms.

"If we aspire to become a strong nation and have the flexibility to choose our own courses of action to deal with internal and external challenges, we need to become self-reliant in critical national security requirements and technologies," Verma said.

He was inaugurating the CII-sponsored NAVARMS two-day seminar on naval armament technologies
here.

Verma said India had met most of its security requirements over the last six decades as a "net importer" of military hardware.

"Considering existing and anticipated orders for aircraft, ships and submarines, our imports may continue well into the foreseeable future, unless concrete steps are taken to arrest this trend. A significant component of the requirement is for up gradation of our existing fleet and inventory of armament and armament stores," he said.

Though growing economy was "a great national asset" that made the world take notice of India's potential to contribute at the global level, he said the difference between economic progress and strategic self-sufficiency has to be recognised.

He said India, having come this impressive distance over the last two decades in developing engineering, technological and industrial strengths, was ready to embark on more ambitious ventures in pursuit of self-reliance and indigenisation.

"The field of developing armament and armament systems lends itself to this effort....developing critical technologies and capabilities is vital to enhancing the nation's strategic flexibility, and developing indigenous armament systems will not only give our armed forces a competitive edge, but also strengthen the nation economically and industrially," he added.

Noting that India was gradually opening the defence industry to the private players, Verma said the country should endeavour to make armament production vastly more indigenous and called for increasing Ordnance Factories' and Defence PSUs' procurement of assemblies and sub-assemblies from private sector from the current Rs 3,100 crore.

He said the Navy followed a three-pronged action plan in enhancing self-reliance in naval armament: by joint design and development with DRDO, by transfer of technology to Ordnance Factories and DPSUs from foreign manufacturers and by supporting the private industry in their R&D efforts and from purchases.





http://www.brahmand.com/news/Arrest-arms-import-trends-says-Indian-Navy-Chief/5578/1/13.html

 

[RAM]

Navy Chief releases study on building India's Navy


The study identifies the gaps between the capabilities of the Indian Naval Industry and Indian Navy's requirements


The Chief of Naval Staff, Admiral Nirmal Verma, PVSM, AVSM, ADC, released a Study on Building India's Navy: Force Requirements and Indigenous Capability during the inaugural session of International Seminar and Exhibition on Naval Armaments, NAVARMS 2010, organised by Confederation of Indian Industry (CII) at Manekshaw Centre on 24 November 2010.


The study identifies the gaps between the capabilities of the Indian Naval Industry and Indian Navy's requirements. The study also suggests how these gaps can be bridged. Contrary to the common belief that Indian industry is incapable of delivering sophisticated systems and equipments, the study has found that the Indian industry does have the capability, competency and capacity to deliver high technology systems, products and modules provided some definitively encouraging measures are undertaken to promote the domestic naval industrial complex.


Key Findings


· India is destined to take its place in the emerging global world order as a regional power and a global interlocutor. Therefore, enhancing the national capacity for new technology ship construction and aircrafts/helicopters is must.


· In 1964, Indian Navy was authorised a force level of 140 ships and submarine. But, even after 4 decades naval force level hovers at best around the 130 ships and submarine mark with about 40 % of the force level equipped with vintage weapons, sensors and communications.


· Naval Defence Industry is dominated by Public Sector Industries. The private sector is now clearly willing and able to establish equivalent or better capabilities at their cost and this must be encouraged.


· There is a demand of more than 7 ships every year for the Navy and another 5 ships per year for the Coast Guard. Public Sector Shipyards, going by their previous record, alone cannot deliver 12 ships per year.


· Equal opportunity for the private sector is a must to achieve the force levels that the Navy seeks to achieve.


· Single vendor bidding and nomination route for awarding Naval projects to Defence Public Sector Units does not lead to real pric discovery and should be done away with.


· Indian Private Sector is poised to take up big naval projects and contribute its share to achieve broader maritime objectives of effective sea power and national goals of peace, prosperity and security


· Issuing collective requirement of the defence forces, for instance total number of radars required by all the services, would present a clear and coherent picture to the industry of the addressable opportunity and provide stimulus to private industry to invest in the Greenfield areas.


· The Buy and Make (Indian) categorization is the best vehicle to promote indigenous naval industry, manufacture and global sourcing but requires final integration in India. MoD must declare its intent that all future acquisitions would preferably be from the Buy and Make (Indian) Route.


· The Indian Navy and the DGNAI also must come forward and share their requirements with Indian industry which CII can facilitate so as to make all stakeholders be on the same page to prepare a capture plan that would truly transform Indian naval industry.


http://www.indiainfoline.com/Market...ases-study-on-building-Indias-Navy/5000828756