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thebakofbakchod

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Isnt it funny how after more than 75 years of independence, not a single Indian company has set up a factory this big and it required a Chinese company to do so? Godrej, Voltas, Havells etc have been in the consumer goods market for decades, and yet this single factory is bigger than all of their individual factories by several magnitude. This factory is huge. It spans over 3 lakh square meters (~150 acres) and will eventually have $1 billion investment. I think they have invested >$500 million so far. This plant has the capacity to produce two million units of refrigerators, one million units of LED TVs, one million units of washing machines and air conditioners each year


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Also this industrial park in greater noida is amongst the 0.01% of IPs in India that resemble IPs in east asian countries or new ones in Vietnam etc. Wide roads and even bigger plots. There are no 1 acre MSME factory with <5 crore investment hogging up the land. India needs way more IPs like this catered for giant 100+ acre factories. The issue with Indian industries is that most factories are tiny and do not have scale, which is why they are always at the mercy and still unable to compete with countries with much higher wages.


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Thier factory in Jaipur is almost complete after less than 1 year of construction. Their Dholera factory will start construction soon.
 

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There was this commission recommendation where they said that all rolling stock manufacturing should be corporatised under single banner company like how PRC has done . These dharne baaj must be treated like how PRC treated their darne baaj in deng times otherwise our industrialisation efforts will always be in vain.
 

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ICF are grade A fools. They have enough orders to basically be a desi CRRC, but take a look at their factory. The reason even Vande Bharat looks so primitive is because most work is manually done by hand with workers hammering the metal sheet in place instead of using machines.





^ Wow 25th century manufacturing methods. world should watch and learn. Even your village bus body makers do the same quality of work.
 

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ICF are grade A fools. They have enough orders to basically be a desi CRRC, but take a look at their factory. The reason even Vande Bharat looks so primitive is because most work is manually done by hand with workers hammering the metal sheet in place instead of using machines.





^ Wow 25th century manufacturing methods. world should watch and learn. Even your village bus body makers do the same quality of work.
Cant change how these baboons think 😑
 

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ICF are grade A fools. They have enough orders to basically be a desi CRRC, but take a look at their factory. The reason even Vande Bharat looks so primitive is because most work is manually done by hand with workers hammering the metal sheet in place instead of using machines.





^ Wow 25th century manufacturing methods. world should watch and learn. Even your village bus body makers do the same quality of work.

My college mate father works in ICF. Guy told us lot of crazy things. Apparently majority workers simply waste time on Tea breaks. Also Coach manufacturing is fixed, so no hurry to do anything meaningful work.
Contract based workers are employed a lot to do the job.


ICF after manufacturing coaches for 40 years still decided to buy an obsolete design of LHB and make it even obsolete with their shoddy work. They are constructing like some local house builders. No shit given about fit and alignment. Just weld it and check if it works.


Imagine the comrade with his Smug face went to meet IR Minister and telling them he will not allow Titagarh, BEML to manufacture Rail Coaches in their factory as if they are manufacturing N700 Series Rail coaches with 0.0001 micron level precision.


PM and RailMin should stop expecting ICF and other Coach factories to do real work. Just open up the competition and let them get killed by others.

With Rail Manufacturing we already have the Titagarh, Medha, BEML and Alstom. Just shaft this roaches.
 

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Cant change how these baboons think 😑

Citizen: LHB roofs are too low in upper berth. Kindly redesign and increase the height.
Le ICF Babu: Adding roof itself increasing the cost. We tried to remove it and then found in internet all coaches have some roof at top.
 

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Cant change how these baboons think 😑
Is it even a good idea to introduce automated sliding doors in non AC coaches? IR is gradually pushing that tech in AC coaches and the way they are planning to phase out suburban/DEMU/MEMUs (to be replaced with VB metro) and general non AC coaches in express trains there is an even wider scope to phase out open doors in AC coaches. But to push it on non AC coaches.....

I remember the old non air conditioned rakes of the Kolkata Metro (equipped with sliding doors) - I don't think a lot of people on this forum would be willing to use that for their daily commute.....

Eventually, as Sudhanshu Mani said in the interview with News Station, IR shd be aiming to phase out non AC coaches altogether. A lot of not so rich nations have already done it. I understand you need capacity for the laborers and migrant workers and thus, it is not immediately doable (more capacity needed) but something worth attempting - say, 15-20 years down the line.
 

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There was this commission recommendation where they said that all rolling stock manufacturing should be corporatised under single banner company like how PRC has done .
Yeah, wonder what happened to it. Perhaps GoI will take their sweet time like they did before eventually corporatizing OFB without giving zero effs to the comrades out there.

Ya'll Nibbiars The ICF Marathwada Plant at latu the Godrej & Boyce has provided new tooling there.



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Their Chennai factory is still stuck in the '70s; lots and lots of manual labor, little to zero automation/tooling and non-existent quality checking. No wonder the comrades are worried about competition from outside.
 
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Yeah, wonder what happened to it. Perhaps GoI will take their sweet time like they did before eventually corporatizing OFB without giving zero effs to the comrades out there.
In this instance Union as big as Indian railways on top of UPSC railway babu co-conspiring as otherwise would mean perform or perish and loss of promotion avenue for doing nothing, adding to that our “dumbocracy” no wonder no party is going to touch those “common sense” recommendation.
 

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