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I knew this Carl GustV laucher..
i have a story.."last word of burhan"
when a cockroach (a terrorist know as burhan)hide in side when he seen army troops looking for hunting him...then army tigers surrounding and trap him..they pin point this Carl Gustav on him..
after see in this position of our tiger that cockroach..who thoughts that "he is a FB picture hero."..after this he thinks .."..ye to kitna bada hai...??? kya ye meri g,,,d me daal ke trigger to nai karega"
ya chacha...ullu banaya mere ko.." ye to kahin jannat nahi dikh raha" kahan chhipe ho mere ..Mir ,gillani dadu.,yasin kana,kidhar hai be tu chal nikal,, khud ki phat gayi to... mere jaise nau jawano ko in tigers ka samana karne bhej diya?'' ammi ake bacha le apne burhan ko.. koi lo..a nai aa raha...hai ab... jo kehta tha..
chad ja tu tu je jannat milegi...hur pari milegi.. usi hur ni laga diya re rabba.....'
mere jaie kaam mat krna mere kashmir ke nau javano... mera to ho gaya intajam..jana thi jannat thama diya chacha o ne jahunnam ka tickit.. pehle to kabhi bola nahi akhri baar me bolta hun.. JAI HIND!"

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chacha -E ne bacheche ko Cho...u bana diya...
aur bhej diya jannat ke raste pe jahan se jahhannum milta hai.
 

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India already have them, some EU product may be, exactly seen the pic, but didnt know which wing had them,



An Indian Army Para SF operator using RO-400 behind the wall radar imaging system.

The RDD technologies RO-400 is a ground penetrating radar used to detect objects and people behind one or several walls. It has a detection range of 21 meters and a works at a frequency of 400mhz, the system weight is 4.4 kgs. It's used by the Para SF operators when conducting CT and HRT operations during MOUT.


it's twwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwo ... heavy.......
 

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Off course yaar !
We have everything you are thinking of , and in sufficient quantity ........

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kya ganta hai hamare paas hai sir...

Apc.. me Anti mine ventures hai bas.. na use koi high caliber weapons hai nahi koi..chain gun..

koi. 50 Cal weapon Aaj tak nai dekha.. (only seen at bunker)
helicopter ki to baat hi kya kare..
sena ke javano ko bhej diya jata hai Marne ke liye..

nahi koi IFV.. Hai hi nahi to kaha the use karenge..
bmp2..ke baad koi naya vehicles nai aya hai armoured brigade me..
sirf kehne ko 4 th army hai..
mordenization bhi to jaruri hai ,
1950 ke mig-21 abhi tak uda rahen hai. hamare janbaaz pilot apni jaan gavan rahen hai..
2000 me su-30 aur MiG 29 liye.. jets kaphi jaruri hai..
ab Rafale ki deal huyee par milenga 2018-19 me ganta karneka,,

no apc .(traked,wheel).mounted gun capability
no ifv with 25-30 mm cannon
no morden battle tank( t-90 ko chhod ke),arjun is not 21 century tank.

we have not attack helicopter..(yes apache is deal good but number not enough 22? kya chhote enemy hai hamre!!
Upar China hai jo USA ka sirdard bana hua hai.. jo tazi se super power ban raha hai..
aur dusra.. Pakistan khane ko roti nahi aur chala india ko path padhane..
do no ke liye 22 nahi atleast 222 apache chahiye..kyun ke apna lch program kab pura hoga Ram jane...
koi anti tank Weapon missile bhi nahi haii spike hai par Aj tak kisi ko demo dete nai dekha..
pata nai..Amunation godown me rakho ke kya fayda.. use karo hamre jawan apni jaan bachgi..


pata nai kaise gonchu..hamare leader bane hue hai..

thoda to..duniya me nazar dalo..yaar..

Kashmir me aise halat is vajah se hai. ki sakhti se nai nipta jata..
hamare neta.. sena bhej kar bhi.. kahegi..
chlo baat agey badhai jaye..
example :IC814 c haijach...commandos in that plane but..
no need actions policy...apply..

chhode 3 atanki..

vo 3 ne..
ab tak 300 logo ko mardiya..
3000 crowd se jyada hamara nuksan kardiya..


Hat off.. to
Isreali, American, Russian,franch,
who never compromise with their people life..
duniya gai bhadd mein.. ankh uthai to.. gaye kaam se..

akela Isreal hai..pure arab rastr se gira
fir bhi.. kisi ne jara udhar idhar hua..
pahunch gaye IDF puri army leke..
Jahan se Rocket uda us ialke koi hi rakh the dher me tabdil kar diya..
Isreal ne 2baar iraq-syria ko nuclear weapons banane pehle hi Attack karte Nuclear plant hi uda diya..(1985-2004)
hu ne bhi Agar Pakistan ko aisa kuch path padhaya hota to..nuclea war ki dhamki na de p..ata.

us ..
2001 se koi bada atanki attack nai hua..
Laden ko kutte kutte Maut mara..
Saddam ko latka ke mara..
gaddafi ko usi ke desh lybia ki galio me dodakar mara..

Rus..
Chechen attack baad bhia..
ye kabhi baat nai ki..sirf military operations kiye..
2000 aur 2001 Moscow me e terrorists attack ke baad..
puri army tut padi..kuchal ke rakh diya.. aur Chechen ke ke sare righ tchhin liye...

Aur yahan bethake..kuchh log hamre jawan ki lase gin rahen hai...
.hamare pass ye hai.. vohai..kar rahe hai..

Hamre pass sirf ganta hai... jo pakistani ake Baja jate hai..
hamare politician aur Kuch news wale bhi kuch.. JNU vale bhi bajate rehte hai..

hum sirf usi gant eko pakde hu ye hai..


(Hurt sorr yfor but this this damm reality)
jai hind
 

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Use less..arm..all of this...
Mmg are Kunal sir koi chidiya Marni hai kya... ??

Mini gatlic gunn..
HMG...
chahiye...
Arrey frustrated aatma............... MMG in Llama, yehi bahut hain. Agar HMG laga daala to chalane layak hi nahi rahegi. Do goli nikli nahin ki helicopter ka balance bigda. Mi 17 pe lagaya to theek, par waha bhi fayde ka nahin. Helicopter gunship vietnam era ka weapon hain for your kind information, lekin woh bhi itna bekar ki uske liye dedicated helicopter gunship banana pada. Which was bell gunship just like HAL Rudra. Phir baad me use modify karke cobra, super cobra and apache banaya gaya.

Now mounting a Mini gun or a 50 cal weapon in a heavy transporter is no big deal. But you have to take into account the terrain and purpose you would be flying and using it. Look at Afghan war, 50 cals were deployed on Chinooks, but they always had Super Cobra and Apache as escort during evac. If mounting a 50 cal or Minimi had been so effective in battle field, why you think they would have dedicated gun ships as escorts?

As far as mounting another HMG on an APC is concerned, this is another waste for India. India is not fighting a conventional urban warfare where these would be effective. Whenever there would be an ambush, the gunner would be the first target. So simple MPV is much better option in this regard. Moreover tracked APCs are best for desert scenario, but for mountain warfare you need a light weight (not the heavy tracked) APVs. Moreover any broken link in the track of any tracked vehicle in mid of a gunfight means doom for it.

They do look bad ass in movies and war documentary, but in real life they are much less significant then they are projected.
 

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Arrey frustrated aatma............... MMG in Llama, yehi bahut hain. Agar HMG laga daala to chalane layak hi nahi rahegi. Do goli nikli nahin ki helicopter ka balance bigda. Mi 17 pe lagaya to theek, par waha bhi fayde ka nahin. Helicopter gunship vietnam era ka weapon hain for your kind information, lekin woh bhi itna bekar ki uske liye dedicated helicopter gunship banana pada. Which was bell gunship just like HAL Rudra. Phir baad me use modify karke cobra, super cobra and apache banaya gaya.

Now mounting a Mini gun or a 50 cal weapon in a heavy transporter is no big deal. But you have to take into account the terrain and purpose you would be flying and using it. Look at Afghan war, 50 cals were deployed on Chinooks, but they always had Super Cobra and Apache as escort during evac. If mounting a 50 cal or Minimi had been so effective in battle field, why you think they would have dedicated gun ships as escorts?
Use less..arm..all of this...
Mmg are Kunal sir koi chidiya Marni hai kya... ??

Mini gatlic gunn..
HMG...
chahiye...
Hardi saar, Chinmullah ki baat mat suno. Aap bohot sahi bol re ho .. main kya bolu.. ki.. us cheetah mein ek howitzer lagwa lo ! bc terrorist kya .. uska pura village he ud jayega.. onlee !
 

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Arrey frustrated aatma............... MMG in Llama, yehi bahut hain. Agar HMG laga daala to chalane layak hi nahi rahegi. Do goli nikli nahin ki helicopter ka balance bigda. Mi 17 pe lagaya to theek, par waha bhi fayde ka nahin. Helicopter gunship vietnam era ka weapon hain for your kind information, lekin woh bhi itna bekar ki uske liye dedicated helicopter gunship banana pada. Which was bell gunship just like HAL Rudra. Phir baad me use modify karke cobra, super cobra and apache banaya gaya.

Now mounting a Mini gun or a 50 cal weapon in a heavy transporter is no big deal. But you have to take into account the terrain and purpose you would be flying and using it. Look at Afghan war, 50 cals were deployed on Chinooks, but they always had Super Cobra and Apache as escort during evac. If mounting a 50 cal or Minimi had been so effective in battle field, why you think they would have dedicated gun ships as escorts?

As far as mounting another HMG on an APC is concerned, this is another waste for India. India is not fighting a conventional urban warfare where these would be effective. Whenever there would be an ambush, the gunner would be the first target. So simple MPV is much better option in this regard. Moreover tracked APCs are best for desert scenario, but for mountain warfare you need a light weight (not the heavy tracked) APVs. Moreover any broken link in the track of any tracked vehicle in mid of a gunfight means doom for it.

They do look bad ass in movies and war documentary, but in real life they are much less significant then they are projected.
Ha bhai..Maan liyaa...
because M not Military expert or Army veteran..

But...
Me thodi keh raha nhun ki..
Chetak Helicopter pe. 50 Cal mount karo..
Uske liye utility helicopter develop karen...

See..other..Utility Helicopter of the world's..

Agosta wasteland W109
Serkosky s70( us looks for deal with india)
Mi-17
Uh-1 (morden)
German NH 90
Ch-53 stalion
Uh/mh-60 balckhawk
Off course this is possible..aur zaruri bhi hai..

Or baat rahi..combat place ki..
Maana Indian Army ka war zone not like other..

Par ye kyun bhul jate ho ki.. hamare enemy.. Pakistan (also China) hai...jo nuclear weapons se less hai..

To dear.. ho sakta hai... aisi situation hi Jisme.. teji se covert operation chahiye.. aise haalat me..
..aisi strategy honi chahiye..ki jaldi se pak nuclear weapons pe control kar paeynn..

Is me..
First Frontline attack..(su-30mki,mig-29,miraj2000)
After.. jaguar.. jet strike..on pak defense system
..
Utility Helicopter with Attack Helicopter bohat hi effective ho sakte hai.
Also..need.. Ac-130 transport with attack capability..
..
Ground Forces..advance..
With..T-90 tank.. with arjun..( Needs IFV.. with troops quickly moves in war zone)
APC and.iCV also very effective on keep control Enemy territory...

......
Ye sirf.. thinks hai..21 century war game ki.. jo jyadatar.
Top 5 military use karti hai..
USA Alies force..
Russia
China
French
IDF..


Kehne ka meaning..
Aisi situation me..
Me ne jo kaha vo behad jaruri hai..

To avoid.. pak nuclear strike on india..
..

M not Frustrated..
M a indian...
Who think only worry about.. My country and my solger..
(not like that person who also living in15-17 century. )
..JAI HIND...
 

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Ha bhai..Maan liyaa...
because M not Military expert or Army veteran..

But...
Me thodi keh raha nhun ki..
Chetak Helicopter pe. 50 Cal mount karo..
Uske liye utility helicopter develop karen...

See..other..Utility Helicopter of the world's..

Agosta wasteland W109
Serkosky s70( us looks for deal with india)
Mi-17
Uh-1 (morden)
German NH 90
Ch-53 stalion
Uh/mh-60 balckhawk
Off course this is possible..aur zaruri bhi hai..

Or baat rahi..combat place ki..
Maana Indian Army ka war zone not like other..

Par ye kyun bhul jate ho ki.. hamare enemy.. Pakistan (also China) hai...jo nuclear weapons se less hai..

To dear.. ho sakta hai... aisi situation hi Jisme.. teji se covert operation chahiye.. aise haalat me..
..aisi strategy honi chahiye..ki jaldi se pak nuclear weapons pe control kar paeynn..

Is me..
First Frontline attack..(su-30mki,mig-29,miraj2000)
After.. jaguar.. jet strike..on pak defense system
..
Utility Helicopter with Attack Helicopter bohat hi effective ho sakte hai.
Also..need.. Ac-130 transport with attack capability..
..
Ground Forces..advance..
With..T-90 tank.. with arjun..( Needs IFV.. with troops quickly moves in war zone)
APC and.iCV also very effective on keep control Enemy territory...

......
Ye sirf.. thinks hai..21 century war game ki.. jo jyadatar.
Top 5 military use karti hai..
USA Alies force..
Russia
China
French
IDF..


Kehne ka meaning..
Aisi situation me..
Me ne jo kaha vo behad jaruri hai..

To avoid.. pak nuclear strike on india..
..

M not Frustrated..
M a indian...
Who think only worry about.. My country and my solger..
(not like that person who also living in15-17 century. )
..JAI HIND...
Aap phir un hardwares ki example de rahe ho jo India operate nahin karta apart from Mi-17. Now talking about what points you have raised, only Mi17 is somewhat capable of having onboard HMG or MMG in true sense. But you have again to see its purpose. Mi17 in IAF is generally used as goods transporter. Moreover if you mount a MMG on its rear end, and use it for evac purpose, then it would be more of a hindrance for you then help.
Moreover when you talk about covet operation, a good example is what US did in Pak for OBL. Now the situation would be same for India too. So you might remember clearly that they had used modified stealth black hawk to infiltrate instead of a Medium lift Chinook or Bell. Covert is more about low RCS and silence then big guns. Need of hour for us to carry out any such ops is to have stealth gun ship for cover as well as small stealth troop carrier.
As far as APC's are concerned, instead of something with a MMG or HMG on top, I'd like something in the league of Stryker. Kestrel is something we should bank upon and develop double time.
 

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Guys, apaches with miniguns or Cheetahs with MMGs dont kill terrorists.

Soldiers with orders kill terrorists.

We have soldiers with power to kill. All missing is the orders.
 

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Aap phir un hardwares ki example de rahe ho jo India operate nahin karta apart from Mi-17. Now talking about what points you have raised, only Mi17 is somewhat capable of having onboard HMG or MMG in true sense. But you have again to see its purpose. Mi17 in IAF is generally used as goods transporter. Moreover if you mount a MMG on its rear end, and use it for evac purpose, then it would be more of a hindrance for you then help.
Moreover when you talk about covet operation, a good example is what US did in Pak for OBL. Now the situation would be same for India too. So you might remember clearly that they had used modified stealth black hawk to infiltrate instead of a Medium lift Chinook or Bell. Covert is more about low RCS and silence then big guns. Need of hour for us to carry out any such ops is to have stealth gun ship for cover as well as small stealth troop carrier.
As far as APC's are concerned, instead of something with a MMG or HMG on top, I'd like something in the league of Stryker. Kestrel is something we should bank upon and develop double time.

dude m talked about what.. we need..
that m want that like military hardware need have..
purpose of like that.. covert opration..

..by development (not seen any chance) or by buying ..................................................
By some how..
we r too late ..to earge the technology or military hardware.

see..
indian.. military need..
IFV.. after buying bmp2.. start. in1998 still we have not mordeRn IFV ..

yesterday Rafale deal finaaaaaaaaaaly complete..
after 9 year late 36 Rafale..good.. choice but not enough..

Indian Army still.. stick on Looking fo Reliable Rifle?
..Military expert and advisor said..world top no one rifle is paas our all test.. So we still using crap (insas)rifle..??
..
same for SAM Missle and MBT..

how mean this..
This kind of decision mostly taken late.. nd we have.. not that what we have actually need...

and this is effects our government decision to war with Pakistan..
for expenses.. government cut need military hardware..
compromise..with quantity and qualities.
..
and this compromise.. paid by our braves. solger giving their life..

and after this.. military expert still stick on thire stupid.. need need thoughs...
 

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Aap phir un hardwares ki example de rahe ho jo India operate nahin karta apart from Mi-17. Now talking about what points you have raised, only Mi17 is somewhat capable of having onboard HMG or MMG in true sense. But you have again to see its purpose. Mi17 in IAF is generally used as goods transporter. Moreover if you mount a MMG on its rear end, and use it for evac purpose, then it would be more of a hindrance for you then help.
Moreover when you talk about covet operation, a good example is what US did in Pak for OBL. Now the situation would be same for India too. So you might remember clearly that they had used modified stealth black hawk to infiltrate instead of a Medium lift Chinook or Bell. Covert is more about low RCS and silence then big guns. Need of hour for us to carry out any such ops is to have stealth gun ship for cover as well as small stealth troop carrier.
As far as APC's are concerned, instead of something with a MMG or HMG on top, I'd like something in the league of Stryker. Kestrel is something we should bank upon and develop double time.

dude m talked about what.. we need..
that m want that like military hardware need have..
purpose of like that.. covert opration..

..by development (not seen any chance) or by buying ..................................................
By some how..
we r too late ..to earge the technology or military hardware.

see..
indian.. military need..
IFV.. after buying bmp2.. start. in1998 still we have not mordeRn IFV ..

yesterday Rafale deal finaaaaaaaaaaly complete..
after 9 year late 36 Rafale..good.. choice but not enough..

Indian Army still.. stick on Looking fo Reliable Rifle?
..Military expert and advisor said..world top no one rifle is paas our all test.. So we still using crap (insas)rifle..??
..
same for SAM Missle and MBT..

how mean this..
This kind of decision mostly taken late.. nd we have.. not that what we have actually need...

and this is effects our government decision to war with Pakistan..
for expenses.. government cut need military hardware..
compromise..with quantity and qualities.
..
and this compromise.. paid by our braves. solger giving their life..

and after this.. military expert still stick on thire stupid.. need need thoughs...
 

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dude m talked about what.. we need..
that m want that like military hardware need have..
purpose of like that.. covert opration..

..by development (not seen any chance) or by buying ..................................................
By some how..
we r too late ..to earge the technology or military hardware.

see..
indian.. military need..
IFV.. after buying bmp2.. start. in1998 still we have not mordeRn IFV ..

yesterday Rafale deal finaaaaaaaaaaly complete..
after 9 year late 36 Rafale..good.. choice but not enough..

Indian Army still.. stick on Looking fo Reliable Rifle?
..Military expert and advisor said..world top no one rifle is paas our all test.. So we still using crap (insas)rifle..??
..
same for SAM Missle and MBT..

how mean this..
This kind of decision mostly taken late.. nd we have.. not that what we have actually need...

and this is effects our government decision to war with Pakistan..
for expenses.. government cut need military hardware..
compromise..with quantity and qualities.
..
and this compromise.. paid by our braves. solger giving their life..

and after this.. military expert still stick on thire stupid.. need need thoughs...
Dude............ You are talking about what you need to see in IA. For covert ops you are talking about heavy equipments?? Just think logically what you need for any covert ops and simply try to understand what a covert ops means.

I'd not comment on IFV, because I too feel a need for new modernized IFVs. But mind it, BMPs are effective IFVs for any sort of ops IA would like to carry out now. IA is not an expeditionary force and hence going for heavy weight vehicles would not be high on priority.

Now when talking about Rifle, INSAS is as reliable as AK and more accurate in shooting. Its not its performance which tagged it as CRAP, its the lobby against it which has tagged it like that time and again. Any of the weapon platform needs time to mature. AK had not gained the star award in just one show. Compare the Kargil era INSAS with what is rolling out from production line today. If INSAS would have been such a CRAP, why did all the world class rifles failed one time or other in Indian tests conditions?

MBT, we got a whole new thread on Arjun and its capability and comparability with T90. Go through that and try to understand where the issue lies. SAM, Akash is a potent platform, but simply designing and testing and by inducting a few regiments is not going to help it mature. Even something as simple as Ball Point Pen took 100 years to evolve and matter of fact is still evolving.

You are right that we start late, and the basic reason for it is the thinking which you are showing right now. Its called knee jerk reaction. You want each and everything in a sort duration of time, but later on keep on cribbing for more. This is the general mentality of all we Indians. We want to make world overnight and if can't do that, start cribbing how ineffective we are instead of looking with the basic physics of making a world.

As far as waging a war on Pakistan is concerned, it not the weapon which holds any government back. Its the world politics. Now see, whatever Army Airforce or Navy demands as hardware, it has to always do with the doctrine they follow. IN wants to be an expeditionary force and so vouching on Carriers. IAF wants to be a striking force so vouching on fighters rather then long range strategic bombers (which I want to see). In same way IA is someone who wants to strike fast, so they vouch more on light weight carriers and strikers rather then heavier ones.

All of us wants to see the best of equipments for our soldiers, but eventually gets blind in advertisements and forget what is our basic necessity. I agree with you that we have lost valuable time over imported goods, its time to ramp up our R&D and production. As well as attacking any one is concerned, I will cite a small incident here.

During 1965, when Pakis attacked Chamb, then general of IA Gen J.N.Chaudhuri aksed for Air Support from Arjan Singh. But going for outright air support, Arjan Singh had a discussion with defence minister and only after getting a go ahead responded to Chaushuri's request. The reason for that is, IAF chief didnot wanted to escalate the war and he was well aware of the fact that after the war, it would be your politicians who would have to bring your country back into track. Its not about the ball or will of your politicians or armed force, nor its the number of vehicles or bullet in your armory which decide on whether to attack or not. Its the dirty world politics, and whether you like it or not, we are a part of world and would have to play by its rule. Moreover the above mentioned incident shows that our Armed forces are much more responsible then our neighbours.
 

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Ghataks are getting their customized gear from some Pvt firm ..
 
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