Indian Army Tata Kestrel 8x8 Wheeled Armoured Personnel Carrier

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Like fukin Sharks, one the Army gets a taste of something, they'll bide their time to get it at any cost and clusterbomb a similar item stuck in development hell in the process.
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Write up the mother of all spec sheets, spend a decade+ sayin no no no to the product, and when product is ready, give a limited order and look for imports, rinse and repeat until you have succeeded to destroy indigenous MIC and then bitch about the indigenous products not being up to mark.
They wanted the IFV to have amphibious capability which Kestrel has
But now will they change it to be a landlubber just to get in Stryker? Will these genrols now say that it also needs a 105mm gun for the turret

Haramis :rage:

Stryker has no amphibious capabilities
 

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India-US deal on Stryker armoured vehicles and M777 towed howitzers soon? What are they
As Prime Minister Narendra Modi's key visit to the US continues, several reports say the US and India are looking at a deal involving Stryker armoured vehicles and upgradation of M777 towed howitzers. A Hindustan Times report cited an official based in New Delhi and Washington as saying that "the final decision on both Stryker and upgradation of M777 lightweight howitzer depends on the conditions offered by the US".

The deal is apart from the one involving the acquisition of MQ-9B Reaper armed drones from the US and the manufacturing of GE-F414 aircraft engines in India with 80 percent transfer of jet engine technology by value. There could also be the signing of over a deal worth a billion with Micron for a chip plant in India and a pact on quantum computing and artificial intelligence (AI).

All these deals, if and when finalised, will give a boost to India's defence sector — taking a step ahead in achieving the "Make-in-India" goal of the country.

As speculation over the deal remains rife, here's a look at what Stryker armoured vehicles and M777 towed howitzer are.

Stryker armoured vehicles

In January, First Post reported that the US government may allow the Transfer of Technology (ToT) for the Stryker armoured personnel carrier (APC) to India. Stryker is an eight-wheeled armoured fighting vehicle jointly produced by Canada and the US.

The Stryker Armoured Personnel Carrier (APC) can carry up to nine soldiers and is armed with a machine gun or a 30 mm cannon. It can be developed into a number of different configurations, First Post reported earlier.

According to reports, the Stryker comprises two variants — the Infantry Carrier Vehicle (ICV) and the Mobile Gun System (MGS). It weighs around 16.5 tonnes, while the MGS version of the APC — which is armed with a 105 mm M1128 gun and weighs around 19 tonnes.

The Stryker APC can be used in a direct combat role and also be adapted to serve as a command vehicle or as a platform for several weapon systems such as the 120 mm mortar, the report said.

According to a report by the United States Government Accountability Office, Stryker provides transport for troops, weapons, and command and control. It "was required by the Army to weigh no more than 38,000 pounds and be transportable in theatre by C-130 cargo aircraft arriving ready for immediate combat operations". The Stryker was used by the US army and the NATO forces to counter the Taliban in Afghanistan.

About M777 howitzers

The US is reportedly offering to upgrade 155 mm M777 howitzers with precision-guided long-range ammunition to counter the artillery challenge on India’s northern borders. As of now, India has 145 M777 howitzers, 120 of which were made by Mahindra Defence Systems in a business arrangement with BAE systems, the Hindustan Times reported. It added that the M777 can be transported by helicopters to mountain tops in case of any emergency in Jammu and Kashmir or Arunachal Pradesh.

M777 "has a much higher level of digital connectivity allowing more rapid, safe and accurate application of effects across the battlespace", said the Australian Army earlier. It provides direct support to combat troops through offensive and defensive fires with conventional and precision-guided projectiles. "It can also employ illuminating and smoke projectiles," the Army said on its website.

In 2022, the US supplied the 155 mm M777 towed howitzers to war-stricken Ukraine. An official had claimed that these were "having a big impact on the battlefield".
 

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If the Stryker deal materialize , that too with Kestral on the background, a strong response from Indian defense enthusiasts should be there.
 

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According to reports, the Stryker comprises two variants — the Infantry Carrier Vehicle (ICV) and the Mobile Gun System (MGS). It weighs around 16.5 tonnes, while the MGS version of the APC — which is armed with a 105 mm M1128 gun and weighs around 19 tonnes.
The US army scrapped the Stryker variant with the mobile gun system because of continuous issues. However one can see some limited use of these on the border with China as a substitute for a light tank.
 

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Write up the mother of all spec sheets, spend a decade+ sayin no no no to the product, and when product is ready, give a limited order and look for imports, rinse and repeat until you have succeeded to destroy indigenous MIC and then bitch about the indigenous products not being up to mark.
Quite a succint write-up of the current state of corrupt IA gernails , dalals, chandigarh lobby and corrupt MoD babus ! But IA veterans would beg to disagree with their ostrich attitude
 

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Stryker will be soon be used by Ukraine, we should see how they perform, atleast in terms of crew protection.
 

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Stryker will be soon be used by Ukraine, we should see how they perform, atleast in terms of crew protection.
no crew protection, they will be dealt with like Bradleys, they are effectively Bradley equivalents and you can expect the same level of scenes when it comes to them. mostly it's the tactics and the weapons they are facing. these systems will perform as well as the Bradley against ATGMs and helicopters. they might be able to take some mine damage and still be running, however, cross country mobility will be less compared to the Bradley.

One thing that might be better with Stryker-like systems would be that the maintenance and deployment of these systems would be much better than the Bradleys and tanks as they can be easily deployed from one sector to another and can be easily relocated in short notice. also maintenance will be much better than Bradley as it is a wheeled system.
 

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Takeover def-ministry?
I say, we split into groups, infiltrate into all major political parties, run for elections, lobby our guys into position of Deputy Def Minister and show how its done! It would really help to have someone who can distinguish between a mortar from motor at the helm.

On a serious note, there should be someone to lobby for our indigenous products, and its the least we could do.
 

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Leh | Made in India Infantry Combat Vehicles inducted into the Indian Army One can easily drive the vehicle and the driver can see 1800 meters away from it. The weapon mounted on it can be controlled from inside: Northern Army Commander Lt General Upendra Dwivedi
How many they have inducted?
 

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One intresting to notice is that US Amy is moving towards survivability in their future armoured vehicles but Indian Army is focusing more on mobility.

M-10 Booker vs DRDO Light Tank
OMFV vs FICV
AMPV vs APC
 

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India-US Deal On M777 Howitzers, Stryker Armoured Vehicles Soon
India and the US have several defence deals in line as Prime Minister Narendra Modi embarks on a state visit to the United States. India is looking forward to signing a deal with the US for Stryker Armoured Vehicles and M777 towed howitzers for the Indian Army. This deal is apart from the one involving the acquisition of MQ-9 armed Reaper drones and the manufacturing of GE F-414 aircraft engines in India with an 80 per cent transfer of jet engine technology.

Also, there could be the signing of a deal worth USD 2.75 billion with Micron Technology for a chip plant in India and a pact on quantum computing and Artificial Intelligence (AI). All these deals will give a big boost to India’s defence sector and the Aatmanirbhar Bharat goal. Read on below to know more about the weapons and how they bolster the Indian military’s strength.

Stryker Armoured vehicles
A line of eight-wheeled armoured fighting vehicles known as Strykers was developed from the Canadian LAV III. General Dynamics Land Systems, Canada (GDLS-C), manufactures Stryker vehicles at a facility in London, Ontario, for the American Army. It can transition from four-wheel drive (8x4) to all-wheel drive (8x8).

It can be used in direct combat role and also be adapted to serve as a command vehicle or as a platform for several weapon systems such as 120mm mortar and armoured plating to protect it from blasts and also makes it bulletproof. It serves as a command vehicle. It can be transported by a C-130 J Cargo aircraft. It was used by the US and NATO forces against the Taliban in Afghanistan war.

It is based on the LAV-25 series, LAV III light armoured fighting vehicles. A common engine, gearbox, hydraulics, set of wheels, set of tyres, differentials, and transfer case are found in all of the vehicle's variations. The back of the M1130 Command Vehicle and M1133 Medical Evacuation Vehicle each houses an air conditioner.

It also has a variant which is used for medical purposes in the battlefield. The medical vehicle has a high capacity Generator and a field retrofit kit was made available as part of an upgrade programme so that all units and variants may install air conditioning. Beginning in 2005, the mobile gun system with overhead installation has been in production for General Dynamics Land Systems.

It can carry up to 9 soldiers and has armour with bolt-on ceramic armour, all-round 14.5x 114mm protection and can carry up to 9 passengers. It has a Caterpillar C7 Engine which has a capacity of 350 HP. Its operational range is 500Km and its maximum speed is 97km/hr.

This was widely used by the US military in operations in Afghanistan and Iraq. This will prove to be a game changer for Indian military as the army is looking for armoured vehicles which will protect the soldiers while patrolling, especially in the areas where insurgency is quite high. The army is constantly fighting militancy and cross-border adversaries and terrorism from its Western Front and this vehicle will prove to be a game changer for the Indian Army.

M777 Howitzers
Indian Army is also using American-made M777 Howitzers which have given great strength to its artillery and are manufactured by American company BAE Systems. These systems are deployed on the northern border against China. It was introduced in 1987 as an ultra-field howitzer developed by Vickers Shipbuilding and Engineering’s armament division. BAE Systems bought it after tests and have been manufacturing and future designing and developing these guns.

It provides navigation, pointing and self-location using a digital fire control system. India purchased these systems as India’s older Sweden-made Artillery guns, Bofors, are on the verge of retirement. Bofors is a 155mm/39 calibre gun and has a strike range of up to 30 KM. These howitzers can be easily moved from one area to another depending on the requirement. They can be airlifted in mountainous regions by CG-47 Chinook heavy-lift helicopters which are currently in use with the Indian Air Force.

These are also used for troop transportation and the transportation of equipment and materials from one place to another. It provides direct support to combat troops through offensive as well as defensive fires. With conventional and precision-guided projectiles, it can also deploy illuminating and smoking projectiles. In the year 2022, the US supplied 155mm M777 howitzers to war-stricken Ukraine. These guns had a big impact on the battlefield in favour of Ukraine against the Russian offensive.

These deals will technologically improve the Indian military’s strength seeing the aggressive side of China on its northern and Eastern borders. These howitzers will play a big impact in India to stop a Chinese and Pakistani offensive on India’s Western and Northern borders and can cause major damage to any aggression shown by India’s adversaries.
 

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On a serious note, there should be someone to lobby for our indigenous products, and its the least we could do.
reminded me of a joke:

a wife wakes her husband up 10 PM in the night when he was sleeping. and she asks him to see Shah rukh khan romancing the heroines on the tv.
wife: "look at shah rukh khan.. he is romancing that heroine.. in the woods, mountains, rivers"
husband:"yeah... alright.. so what is bothering you?"
wife: "you dont do anything like that with me!"

husband: "paagal - shah rukh khan gets 10 cr rupees for doing all that.. you give me 5 lakh, i will do it better than him"

same answer: the lobbyists simp for foreign maal because they get 10cr (maybe more) - you give 50 lakh per year, we can do it better and sell our desi products
 

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Hattt sala , atags ka kya hoga 9? Aur more orders for k9 vajra usa ko kaho apne orders ki batti bana kar usko tel me duba ka apni gaand me daalke uspe aag laga lein saale dalle
India-US Deal On M777 Howitzers, Stryker Armoured Vehicles Soon
India and the US have several defence deals in line as Prime Minister Narendra Modi embarks on a state visit to the United States. India is looking forward to signing a deal with the US for Stryker Armoured Vehicles and M777 towed howitzers for the Indian Army. This deal is apart from the one involving the acquisition of MQ-9 armed Reaper drones and the manufacturing of GE F-414 aircraft engines in India with an 80 per cent transfer of jet engine technology.

Also, there could be the signing of a deal worth USD 2.75 billion with Micron Technology for a chip plant in India and a pact on quantum computing and Artificial Intelligence (AI). All these deals will give a big boost to India’s defence sector and the Aatmanirbhar Bharat goal. Read on below to know more about the weapons and how they bolster the Indian military’s strength.

Stryker Armoured vehicles
A line of eight-wheeled armoured fighting vehicles known as Strykers was developed from the Canadian LAV III. General Dynamics Land Systems, Canada (GDLS-C), manufactures Stryker vehicles at a facility in London, Ontario, for the American Army. It can transition from four-wheel drive (8x4) to all-wheel drive (8x8).

It can be used in direct combat role and also be adapted to serve as a command vehicle or as a platform for several weapon systems such as 120mm mortar and armoured plating to protect it from blasts and also makes it bulletproof. It serves as a command vehicle. It can be transported by a C-130 J Cargo aircraft. It was used by the US and NATO forces against the Taliban in Afghanistan war.

It is based on the LAV-25 series, LAV III light armoured fighting vehicles. A common engine, gearbox, hydraulics, set of wheels, set of tyres, differentials, and transfer case are found in all of the vehicle's variations. The back of the M1130 Command Vehicle and M1133 Medical Evacuation Vehicle each houses an air conditioner.

It also has a variant which is used for medical purposes in the battlefield. The medical vehicle has a high capacity Generator and a field retrofit kit was made available as part of an upgrade programme so that all units and variants may install air conditioning. Beginning in 2005, the mobile gun system with overhead installation has been in production for General Dynamics Land Systems.

It can carry up to 9 soldiers and has armour with bolt-on ceramic armour, all-round 14.5x 114mm protection and can carry up to 9 passengers. It has a Caterpillar C7 Engine which has a capacity of 350 HP. Its operational range is 500Km and its maximum speed is 97km/hr.

This was widely used by the US military in operations in Afghanistan and Iraq. This will prove to be a game changer for Indian military as the army is looking for armoured vehicles which will protect the soldiers while patrolling, especially in the areas where insurgency is quite high. The army is constantly fighting militancy and cross-border adversaries and terrorism from its Western Front and this vehicle will prove to be a game changer for the Indian Army.

M777 Howitzers
Indian Army is also using American-made M777 Howitzers which have given great strength to its artillery and are manufactured by American company BAE Systems. These systems are deployed on the northern border against China. It was introduced in 1987 as an ultra-field howitzer developed by Vickers Shipbuilding and Engineering’s armament division. BAE Systems bought it after tests and have been manufacturing and future designing and developing these guns.

It provides navigation, pointing and self-location using a digital fire control system. India purchased these systems as India’s older Sweden-made Artillery guns, Bofors, are on the verge of retirement. Bofors is a 155mm/39 calibre gun and has a strike range of up to 30 KM. These howitzers can be easily moved from one area to another depending on the requirement. They can be airlifted in mountainous regions by CG-47 Chinook heavy-lift helicopters which are currently in use with the Indian Air Force.

These are also used for troop transportation and the transportation of equipment and materials from one place to another. It provides direct support to combat troops through offensive as well as defensive fires. With conventional and precision-guided projectiles, it can also deploy illuminating and smoking projectiles. In the year 2022, the US supplied 155mm M777 howitzers to war-stricken Ukraine. These guns had a big impact on the battlefield in favour of Ukraine against the Russian offensive.

These deals will technologically improve the Indian military’s strength seeing the aggressive side of China on its northern and Eastern borders. These howitzers will play a big impact in India to stop a Chinese and Pakistani offensive on India’s Western and Northern borders and can cause major damage to any aggression shown by India’s adversaries.
 

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Hattt sala , atags ka kya hoga 9? Aur more orders for k9 vajra usa ko kaho apne orders ki batti bana kar usko tel me duba ka apni gaand me daalke uspe aag laga lein saale dalle
Army made a case for the M777, air transportable via Chinooks. They won't settle for an alternative for it's role. They showed little interest in Kalyani's ULH in the same caliber offered with both steel and titanium barrels.
 

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