Indian Army T- 90 (Bhishma) and T- 72 (M-1) Tanks

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Can anyone update the status of T-72 upgrade? The dedicated thread for this in DFI seems idle for quite some time.
 

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1. DAC accorded approval for indigenous development and production of the main gun 125mm Armour Piercing Fin Stabilised Discarding-Sabot (APFSDS) ammunition for T-72/T-90 tanks by the Indian Industry
 

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Indian Army tanks now have sharper night vision equipment developed by DRDO
The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has indigenously developed Thermal Imaging and Day Sight equipment to arm the tanks in Indian Army’s inventory with a sharper night vision, ThePrint has learnt.

The night vision equipment, to be installed in the T-72 and T-90 tanks, is meant for a clearer night vision even in pitch darkness. It will have a higher range of sight as compared to the existing technology, said a DRDO official.

It can be used for both day and night operations, and also boasts of superior image processing features at any given time of the day. Further, it will serve the same purpose on both varieties of tanks, only the mechanics would be different, added the official who didn’t wish to be named.

Out of an order of about 1,000 units of the night vision equipment for the T-72 tanks, nearly 300 have already been delivered to the Army, said the official. For these tanks, the equipment will have a 3-km range for tank targets.

The night vision equipment being developed for the T-90 tanks will have a range of around 4 km and will help in “battlefield surveillance, acquisition and firing on targets” and provide a “hunter-killer” capability to tank commander, said the DRDO official.

The equipment units for the T-90 tanks are yet to be delivered.

The night vision equipment has been developed by DRDO’s Instruments Research and Development Establishment, and is being jointly produced by Bharat Electronics Limited, Machilipatnam, and Ordnance Factory, Dehradun.


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The DRDO official told ThePrint, “So far, image intensive tubes were used for night sight in the tanks which had a range of 150-200 metres and also required some amount of light to process a clear image. This was an old technology. Now, it will be replaced with the new equipment developed by us.”

There are over 5,000 tanks in the Indian Army’s inventory.

A senior Army officer told ThePrint that the latest equipment will provide better vision at night as it is a technology upgrade for the tanks over the existing one.

“The project started around 2011-2012 and it has been a collaborative effort between the DRDO and the Army.

“The equipment is working well for the T-72 tanks, but there have been some issues with the ones for T-90 tanks. We are working on it and hopefully they should be sorted out soon,” said the officer, who did not want to be named.
http://www.defencenews.in/article/I...ght-vision-equipment-developed-by-DRDO-707109
 

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Indian Army tanks now have sharper night vision equipment developed by DRDO
The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has indigenously developed Thermal Imaging and Day Sight equipment to arm the tanks in Indian Army’s inventory with a sharper night vision, ThePrint has learnt.

The night vision equipment, to be installed in the T-72 and T-90 tanks, is meant for a clearer night vision even in pitch darkness. It will have a higher range of sight as compared to the existing technology, said a DRDO official.

It can be used for both day and night operations, and also boasts of superior image processing features at any given time of the day. Further, it will serve the same purpose on both varieties of tanks, only the mechanics would be different, added the official who didn’t wish to be named.

Out of an order of about 1,000 units of the night vision equipment for the T-72 tanks, nearly 300 have already been delivered to the Army, said the official. For these tanks, the equipment will have a 3-km range for tank targets.

The night vision equipment being developed for the T-90 tanks will have a range of around 4 km and will help in “battlefield surveillance, acquisition and firing on targets” and provide a “hunter-killer” capability to tank commander, said the DRDO official.

The equipment units for the T-90 tanks are yet to be delivered.

The night vision equipment has been developed by DRDO’s Instruments Research and Development Establishment, and is being jointly produced by Bharat Electronics Limited, Machilipatnam, and Ordnance Factory, Dehradun.


Upgraded technology ::

The DRDO official told ThePrint, “So far, image intensive tubes were used for night sight in the tanks which had a range of 150-200 metres and also required some amount of light to process a clear image. This was an old technology. Now, it will be replaced with the new equipment developed by us.”

There are over 5,000 tanks in the Indian Army’s inventory.

A senior Army officer told ThePrint that the latest equipment will provide better vision at night as it is a technology upgrade for the tanks over the existing one.

“The project started around 2011-2012 and it has been a collaborative effort between the DRDO and the Army.

“The equipment is working well for the T-72 tanks, but there have been some issues with the ones for T-90 tanks. We are working on it and hopefully they should be sorted out soon,” said the officer, who did not want to be named.
http://www.defencenews.in/article/I...ght-vision-equipment-developed-by-DRDO-707109
Everything developed for Arjun Mark 2 must be added to Tincans.
A 125mm version of the the new thermobaric ammunition, those rotating smoke-grenade dispensers, laser warning systems etc.
 

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Will help maintain T-90, Sukhoi arsenal: Russia
Russia on Wednesday agreed to India’s request to constitute specific teams to ensure proper maintenance support and supply of spares for crucial weapon platforms, ranging from the S-400 Triumf surface-to-air missile systems to Sukhoi-30MKI fighter jets and T-90S main-battle tanks, being acquired for the Indian armed forces. The 19th India-Russia intergovernmental commission on military and military technical cooperation (IRIGC-M&MTC), co-chaired by defence minister Rajnath Singh and his counterpart General Sergei Shoigu in Moscow, also directed their teams to “work closely for an early conclusion” of the bilateral reciprocal logistics support pact.Calling India “an exclusive strategic defence partner” for Russia, Gen Shoigu reaffirmed his country’s strong support to India in the field of counter-terrorism and its “security interests in the region”. He also underlined Moscow’s commitment to extend all possible support to enhance India’s defence capabilities, including cooperation in cutting-edge military technology, under the “Make in India” policy. The official statement said the two countries expressed “satisfaction” on the progress in implementing ongoing contracts concluded in the recent past. The biggest such contract is the $5.43 billion (Rs 40,000 crore) deal for the five squadrons of the S-400 systems, which was inked in October 2018. TOI on Wednesday had reported that India wants Russia to speed up the delivery schedule of the S-400 systems, which can detect, track and destroy hostile strategic bombers, jets, spy planes, missiles and drones at a range of 380-km. The S-400 systems are slated for delivery from October 2020 to April 2023. This has come after India recently paid the first instalment of around Rs 6,000 crore for the S-400 systems after some delay because New Delhi and Moscow had to work out a payment mechanism to get around Washington’s sanctions regime against acquisition of Russian weapon systems. “Gen Shoigu agreed to the Indian defence minister’s request to constitute specific working groups for after-sales support of key defence platforms,” said the statement. Russia also “affirmed its readiness to operationalize at the earliest” the joint venture to manufacture Kalashnikov AK-203 rifles in India. Under the JV, around 7.50 lakh assault rifles will be manufactured in the ordnance factory at Korwa, which falls in the Amethi district of UP, as was earlier reported by TOI.
https://idrw.org/will-help-maintain-t-90-sukhoi-arsenal-russia/#more-214715
 

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MoD places order for 464 Bhishma T-90 Tanks worth Rs 20,000 Crore
More than six months after the Centre cleared the procurement of 464 Russian-origin T-90 main-battle tanks (MBTs), the ministry of defence has placed an order for the entire fleet worth 20,000 crore with the Heavy Vehicles Factory at Avadi in Chennai.

Going by the present production capability of the factory, which is about 120 tanks a year, it could take over four years for it to deliver all 464.

When the procurement was cleared in April this year, the value of the deal was to be a little more than 13,000 crore. But multiple sources in the Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) confirmed on Thursday that the order had been valued at 20,000 crore.


The order for 464 units of Bhishma, the newest MBT that the Army is using, is meant to bolster the shock-and-awe capabilities of the armed forces along the western sector of the India-Pakistan border. Once the delivery is complete, the Army will have over 1,500 of these tanks. Pakistan is in talks with Russia to acquire more than 300 such tanks.

The Avadi factory has been manufacturing heavy battlefield equipment since 1961 and has delivered, among other things, the T-72 MBTs being used by the Army.

The T-90 MBT entered Russian army service in 1992. India signed a contract for about 300 tanks in 2001, of which 124 were entirely built in Russia while the rest were assembled here.

T-90s are equipped with night-vision devices and a thermal imaging system. Known for mobility and first-hit capabilities, Bhishma is protected by an explosive reactive armour.

The 46.5-tonne tank is powered by a 1,000HP engine and has a 125mm smoothbore gun capable of firing all types of ammunition, including laser-guided missiles to a range of up to 5km.
http://www.defencenews.in/article/M...ishma-T-90-Tanks-worth-Rs-20,000-Crore-757872
 

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India's Ministry of Defence (MoD) has signed a INR200 billion (USD2.8 billion) contract with the state-owned Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) to licence-build 464 additional T-90S main battle tanks (MBTs) for the Indian Army (IA).
 

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The recently signed agreement is separate from the planned INR134.48 billion acquisition of an equal number of T-90MS MBTs, all of which would be imported in kit form from Russian tank manufacturer Uralvagonzavod (UVZ) for assembly by the HVF.
 

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Ok, MOD confirms the new 464 T-90 will be very same S version " OFB has been tasked to supply 464 T-90S/SK tanks worth Rs. 19,100 crore for which indent has been placed on it by the Ministry as recently as November 2019. "
 

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russian lobby at best have full tot still getting t90 in knock down kits way to go India keep ur critical asset imported monkey version,a lot of made in India NDA 2 too look like UPA 2
 

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russian lobby at best have full tot still getting t90 in knock down kits way to go India keep ur critical asset imported monkey version,a lot of made in India NDA 2 too look like UPA 2
T-90S is not monkey version it is better than Russian ones(T-90A) as it features a better engine, better night vision devices, and better protection..
 

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T-90S is not monkey version it is better than Russian ones(T-90A) as it features a better engine, better night vision devices, and better protection..
Presently same 1000hp engine is used in both & there's no hard-kill nor soft-kill Active Protection System in Indian T-90S Bhishms, meaning it'll be free real estate for ATGMs.
 

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Presently same 1000hp engine is used in both & there's no hard-kill nor soft-kill Active Protection System in Indian T-90S Bhishms, meaning it'll be free real estate for ATGMs.
Do we have any plans to upgrade system with APS?? In house development of such system?
 

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Presently same 1000hp engine is used in both & there's no hard-kill nor soft-kill Active Protection System in Indian T-90S Bhishms, meaning it'll be free real estate for ATGMs.
That I agree. What I wanted to point out was about monkey model thing having no APS is different from monkey model you are talking about. Only t90MS variant has APS which is a recent model(way after India purchased T 90).
 

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At first, India did not like the Su-57, now they scold the T-90MS
In New Delhi, ordered a large batch of Russian tanks, but at the same time demonstrate dissatisfaction

Vladimir Tuchkov


In the photo: the T-90MS tank (Photo: Vladimir Smirnov / TASS)


An agreement was signed in New Delhi in early November, according to which the Indian Ministry of Defense will pay a total of $ 3.12 billion for the supply of 464 Russian T-90MS main battle tanks over four years, Defense News reports. Of these, 1.2 billion will be received by our Uralvagonzavod and Rosoboronexport for the transfer of technology. The Indians will pay the remaining money to their concern for the assembly of armored vehicles.

In India , up to 80% of components for the T-90MS will be produced. But the main components - the engine and transmission - will come from Russia. And they make up to 45% of the cost of the tank.

464 T-90 MC is enough to equip ten regiments of the Indian army. The first 64 cars should be ready no later than 3.5 years from the date of signing the contract. The rhythm of production should be at the level of 120 cars per year or 10 per month.

Moreover, the contract contains a time bomb, from which the Russian side may suffer. Uralvagonzavod is liable for delays in production and cost overruns. In case of failure to meet the delivery deadlines for T-90MS or exceeding their value, fines will be imposed on the Russian company.

As is customary in India after the Bharatiya Janata Party party, which reoriented the country to the West, came to power, the contract with Russia immediately provoked a number of negative comments. At least some of them are contrary to common sense.

It is alleged, for example, that 80 percent localization of tank production in the country is very small. And that we must strive to deploy fully Indian production. It was as if there were no three previous contracts, under which, in total, 1,657 T-90S main battle tanks were to be transferred to the Indian army. For those contracts, localization was only 40%. Now it has doubled. But the Indians are still unhappy.

Criticism extends to the "unjustified high cost" of the project, which will lead to squandering the defense budget. And this is also a distortion of the real state of things. Under the new contract, each more advanced T-90MS tank will cost India a third cheaper than the previous modification - T-90S.

I must say that taking Uralvagonzavod responsibility for the rhythm of production, as experience shows, is too risky. The fact is that at the Heavy Vehicles Factory, where the “armor” will be riveted, when delivering an order for the T-90C, supply plans were constantly being broken.

The change in the foreign policy of India was reflected literally in all spheres of military-technical cooperation with Russia. And especially strong in the field of procurement of aircraft. India defiantly withdrew from a joint project to create a fifth-generation fighter based on the Su-57. Stating that this is a bad aircraft, not related to the fifth generation.

However, in the field of armored vehicles of India there is nowhere to go. Because the Indian Ministry of Defense has no other options except to buy Russian equipment. This is predetermined not only by the price / quality ratio possessed by Russian armored vehicles.

Almost the entire tank fleet of India is Russian:

- 2000 Ajeya tanks, which are modernized in local technological conditions by the Soviet T-72;

- 1,500 Russian T-90S tanks.

Of their - 240 tanks Arjun.

As for Arjun, it was an attempt by Indian industry to create their own tank so that they no longer depend on foreigners. However, she was not entirely successful. It turned out about the same as with the fourth-generation Indian light fighter.

This tank began to be constructed in 1974, assuming a total of more than two thousand vehicles, not inferior in combat capabilities to the Soviet T-72. Designed by trial and error for more than 30 years. Serial production was launched in 2006. However, it was stopped after receiving 124 tanks. The quality was low. At the same time, designers could not completely abandon foreign components. For example, two machine guns - 12.7 mm and 7.62 mm - were Soviet. Engines and transmission were made in Germany.

Perhaps the only thing that was good in the tank was driving performance. As a result, it was decided to develop its second modification - Arjun Mk II. Its production began in 2013. 118 tanks were produced. Undoubtedly, this was a step forward. Moreover, in technological terms, localization of production reached 90%.

In India, they learned to reproduce the German engine and transmission. Dynamic armor protection appeared, though it’s Russian - “Contact-5”. The rifled gun was replaced with a smoothbore, which made it possible to launch anti-tank guided missiles through the barrel. Some systems were introduced into the tank, without which it cannot be considered modern. For example, a night vision device appeared in the sighting system.

The second modification, although it approached the best tanks of the third generation, but still did not stand up to them. But at the price of Arjun Mk II, some successful machines surpassed. It costs 6.3 million dollars, while, for example, the Israeli "Merkava" - 6 million.

It is quite understandable that Arjun is not in a position to compete with the Russian T-90. Neither for the price (Russian tanks are sold for 3-4 million dollars per car), nor for combat capabilities. Therefore, instead of more than two thousand tanks, only two hundred and more were released. On that and limited. So all the talk about the fact that Russian tanks are unreasonably expensive for India does not have any basis.

By the way, elements appeared in the T-90MS modification, which are not found in either Arjun or T-90S.

First of all, it is the Arena-E active defense complex. Instead of the dynamic protection of the Contact-5 armor, a more effective Relic is installed. Used more advanced sighting system "Pine-U".

Finally, the tank is equipped with a more powerful 2A46M-5 cannon.

https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/250466/
 

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