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Is it wrong for IA Officer to Marry other Country Girl!!!

HC reserves order on cross-country marriage plea

The High Court of Karnataka on Tuesday reserved its order on an appeal by the Indian Army, challenging a single judge order directing it to consider the application of an officer seeking to relieve him from service so that he can marry a Sri Lankan national.

The division bench comprising Chief Justice Vikramajit Sen and Justice B V Nagarathna reserved the orders.

The appellant, Major Vikas Kumar of Corp of Signals, a resident of Koramangala, wanted to marry Arnila Ranamali Gunaratne, an M Phil student in English literature and a resident of Koramangala.

Trouble started for the Major and his girlfriend when he sought permission from his higher-ups to marry her. The application was rejected by the Army on September 19, 2011, stating that the application was not correct.

When the Major moved the High Court, single judge Justice B S Patil, on December 7, 2011, admitted his petition and directed the respondents (Army) to consider his application and relieve him.

When the Army did not respond to the directions, the petitioner filed another petition which came up for hearing before the High Court bench of Justice Nagmohandas, who, on June 18, 2012, quashed the Army order rejecting his application, allowed the petition and the respondents were given liberty to take appropriate action according to Army rules.
However, the Army appealed against the single judge order, which came up for hearing before the division bench headed by the Chief Justice.

During the hearing, the counsel for the Union government Aniyan Joseph submitted that the application of the Major was not considered by his superiors because the girl had not given her consent to take up Indian citizenship and that the Major might end up being relieved without terminal benefit.

HC reserves order on cross-country marriage plea

 

[Tronic]

Re: Is it wrong for IA Officer to Marry other Country Girl!!!

Sounds like a Colonial era law. Why not?

On the other hand,

because the girl had not given her consent to take up Indian citizenship

What's the point? He can't stay in the army if he wishes to leave the country and join her, but at the same time, she can't stay in India for a prolonged time without Indian citizenship. I can see why the army would reject the application.

 

[bhramos]

Re: Is it wrong for IA Officer to Marry other Country Girl!!!

Sounds like a Colonial era law. Why not?

On the other hand,



What's the point? He can't stay in the army if he wishes to leave the country and join her, but at the same time, she can't stay in India for a prolonged time without Indian citizenship. I can see why the army would reject the application.

Already after the Marriage with Indian she would Automatically become Indian!!!

 

[nrj]

Re: Is it wrong for IA Officer to Marry other Country Girl!!!

Already after the Marriage with Indian she would Automatically become Indian!!!

application of the Major was not considered by his superiors because the girl had not given her consent to take up Indian citizenship and that the Major might end up being relieved without terminal benefit.

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[Ankit Purohit]

Re: Is it wrong for IA Officer to Marry other Country Girl!!!

Nation comes first each and every time

 

[drkrn]

Re: Is it wrong for IA Officer to Marry other Country Girl!!!

Already after the Marriage with Indian she would Automatically become Indian!!!

only if she leaves her nationality. india has not yet implemented dual citizenship

as far as the rule, i don't think it's wrong. suppose a pakistani woman getting married to an indian general- what possible consequences does it make?
what if they are spies here for getting info?

 

[PRajaram]

Re: Is it wrong for IA Officer to Marry other Country Girl!!!

HC reserves order on cross-country marriage plea



HC reserves order on cross-country marriage plea

I had originally posted this on TOI ...

There are arguments for both sides of this case.

On the side of the Major:
- Army should make a decision quickly and the outcome should be within any clearly specified military law
- If the Major has satisfied his commission (I'm guessing that it is a SSC), then he should be allowed to quit the Army
- If Ministers and C-in-C (President) are allowed to marry foreign nationals, then the same freedom should be available to everyone in the military

On the side of the Army:
- Military is not a corporation that your departure is at-will. This is the reason that they have short/long service commissions. When you commit and enjoy the benefits (paid education in this case), you are making a promise that you will serve in the military for the said period and a violation of this promise is punishable through a court martial. Everyone knows this and understands this before they sign their life away to the military.
- How can the army tell if the Major is merely trying to quit the army and therefore is citing his desire to marry the Srilankan national? What if everyone tries to do this? This will open the flood gates. Do we not have enough problems?
- If the Major has satisfied most of his commission and only has a few years left, then let the couple wait until then.
- Given how Srilanka is cozying up to China and that this Major is in the NE Signal Corps, how can the army be certain that the Srilankan woman is not a spy and why shouldn't the army look into whether any secrets have already been compromised?
- I, personally, understand how one can feel about renouncing their citizenship. However, to uphold the Srilankan woman's rights and the desires of the Major, is the entire military establishment of India supposed to bend its clearly specified rules?
- As far as this issue is concerned, it doesn't matter if there is corruption in the military. One cannot argue that since the military is lax in enforcing 5 out of the 10 rules, it should stop enforcing rule #6 as well.

Freedom to do what one pleases is not absolute. One promises to trade that away for the larger good, when joining the military and agrees to live by certain rigid guidelines.

As to the question whether the Major should have NOT fallen in love with this woman knowing her citizenship and the military laws which he agreed to abide by, the answer is 'Yes'. This has often happened here in US and people do make a conscious choice whether to fall in love or not with that person.

 

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Army chief to brief CCS on need for mountain strike corps

General Bikram Singh, Chief of the Army Staff, is slated to brief the Cabinet Committee on Security on the need to raise a new mountain strike corps, primarily aimed at countering a potential threat from China on India's northern borders.

Highly placed sources in the defence ministry told Rediff.com that the Chiefs of Staff Committee — essentially a forum of all the three service chiefs — has reconsidered the 2011 proposal to raise a mountain strike corps and come up with a comprehensive plan that will be presented to the CCS, the country's highest decision-making body on security matters, later this month.

The proposal, first mooted in 2010 and given in-principle clearance by the government in 2011, involved recruiting over 80,000 new soldiers and nearly 500 officers to man the strike corps — an offensive formation — to counter China's growing capabilities across the border in Tibet .

It was estimated that the new corps would cost about Rs 65,000 crore (Rs 650 billion). India has three strike corps, all geared towards offensive operations against Pakistan. They are I (located at Mathura), II (Ambala) and XXI (Bhopal).

Former army chief General V K Singh was a forceful advocate of forming the mountain strike corps, proposed to be based at Panagarh in West Bengal . The government, however, had second thoughts especially because raising an offensive formation for mountains involved massive expenditure. The finance ministry initially raised objections to such huge investment.

The Prime Minister's Office too felt that accretion of such a huge force may raise Beijing's hackles at a time when India-China relations are on an even keel.

The third factor was the apparent disconnect between the Indian Army and the Indian Air Force in asking for resources.

The PMO sent back the proposal to the defence ministry and asked for a comprehensive joint proposal. The Chiefs of Staff Committee asked Headquarter Integrated Defence Staff to come up with a revised draft for the mountain strike corps which is now ready.

The new proposal now given final shape, includes raising of three more mountain divisions (20,000 soldiers each), complete with tactical airlift capability and armed with necessary armoured regiments and artillery components.

The IAF has also projected its requirement in this plan. It includes deployment of the C-130J Hercules aircraft meant for Special Operations like para-dropping.

General Bikram Singh will personally outline the proposal to the CCS later this month so that India's defences along the China border get a further boost. He is also expected to brief the CCS on the slippages in building infrastructure in the difficult mountain terrain of Arunachal Pradesh and Sikkim in the Eastern Command.

India's plans to build border infrastructure including roads, air strips and living quarters for additional troop deployment, has not kept pace with the need.

Since 2009 India has raised two mountain divisions, one each deployed under the Tezpur-based 4 Corps and the Dimapur-based 3 Corps.

the CCS clears the proposal to raise the mountain strike corps, it will take anywhere between three and four years to recruit, train and deploy troops in a manner that acts a strong deterrent against any Chinese adventurism.

 

[Abhi9]

Good news for Ghatak Platoons
Army's Ghatak infantry platoons to go more deadly | idrw.org

 

[Abhi9]

good news : indigenous optic sights ordered

The Hindu : Sci-Tech / Technology : Army places Rs. 700-crore orders for versatile device

 

[W.G.Ewald]

good news : indigenous optic sights ordered

The Hindu : Sci-Tech / Technology : Army places Rs. 700-crore orders for versatile device

Will they be on Amazon.com soon?

 

[Abhi9]

Will they be on Amazon.com soon?

I don't know if military grade technology is available on amazon

Although the thermal device looks uncooled, its high probability that it is based on Vanadium oxide microbolometers. FLIR is the company that is world leader in uncooled thermal imaging, maybe from there.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

I don't know if military grade technology is available on amazon

Although the thermal device looks uncooled, its high probability that it is based on Vanadium oxide microbolometers. FLIR is the company that is world leader in uncooled thermal imaging, maybe from there.

Actually Amazon is probably only up to Russian Generation III night vision now.

 

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No more Tatra trucks for Indian Army​

The Indian Army has 7,983 Tatra trucks but "there is no further procurement" of these vehicles or their spare parts, the government said Monday. Defence minister AK Antony told the Lok Sabha that the existing Tatra trucks formed about 4% of the total vehicles authorized for use by the army.

Asked about details of ongoing projects using the Tatra platform, Antony said: "The details "¦ cannot be divulged in the interest of national security."

 

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Orders for hiking ex-servicemen pension next month: Antony​

NEW DELHI, DEC 18:
Defence Minister A K Antony today said the orders for hiking pension of ex-servicemen and their families annually by Rs 2,300 crore, as sanctioned by the Cabinet, would be issued next month.

"This is the third time in the last four years that the Government has systematically improved the post-retirement benefits for ex-servicemen," he said while addressing a meeting of the Consultative Committee attached to his Ministry.

Orders authorising payment to ex-servicemen and their families accruing from the recent cabinet decisions, hiking pension and other benefits amounting to nearly Rs 2,300 crore per annum, would be issued next month, he said.

Outlining the measures taken by the Ministry for improving health care benefits of ex-servicemen, Antony said, "The Government has been trying to expand the delivery mechanism and simplify procedures so that the ex-servicemen get the required medical benefits without hassles."

He said under the Ex-servicemen Contributory Health Scheme (ECHS), 227 polyclinics were initially approved by the Government.

In 2010, another 199 polyclinics were sanctioned by the Government out of which 99 polyclinics have become functional and 100 polyclinics are under various stages of operationalization, the Defence Minister said.

Antony expressed confidence that with the commissioning of the remaining polyclinics the bulk of the ex-servicemen population throughout the country would be covered by the scheme.

The delivery of medicare at polyclinics is also hampered by the shortage of staff and non-availability of prescribed medicines, he said.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Good news for Ghatak Platoons
Army's Ghatak infantry platoons to go more deadly | idrw.org

Ghatak Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

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Indian Army mela organised at Amritsar Punjab News | Breaking News | Latest Online News

 

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Indian Army chief arrives in Sri Lanka

 

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Armed forces modifying curriculum periodically: Antony | Business Standard

 

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Army opens doors for orphans - The Times of India