Indian Army Artillery

[bhramos]

IMA Acc Barack ...

what gun is it....?

 

[sbm]

That, I believe, is an Indian designed (based on a Canadian model) 75/24 mountain howitzer.

 

[sbm]

An additional photo for you guys - Indian troops with a 6 pdr AT gun. This remained as part of the AT regiments of infantry divisions post independence and some even went to the BSF. If anyone knows when they were phased out I'd like to know myself. There is one other AT gun that you will not find much mention of - the SP 17 pdr Archer (based on the Valentine tank). One regiment - 34 Mahratta - was assigned to the artillery brigade of 1st Armoured Division which included 1 Field (SP) and 2 Field (SP) with Sextons and 26 (SP) LAA regiment - if anyone has any photos of Indian Bofors guns on trucks please share.

 

[bhramos]

An additional photo for you guys - Indian troops with a 6 pdr AT gun. This remained as part of the AT regiments of infantry divisions post independence and some even went to the BSF. If anyone knows when they were phased out I'd like to know myself. There is one other AT gun that you will not find much mention of - the SP 17 pdr Archer (based on the Valentine tank). One regiment - 34 Mahratta - was assigned to the artillery brigade of 1st Armoured Division which included 1 Field (SP) and 2 Field (SP) with Sextons and 26 (SP) LAA regiment - if anyone has any photos of Indian Bofors guns on trucks please share.View attachment 17094

i could only get this
British Chevrolet 30 CWT (India Patern) from LRDG with Breda 20mm italian gun.

 

[sbm]

Those were used not so much for AA but for enhancing LRDG firepower. I am sure I have a photo somewhere.

 

[sbm]

Ok here it is - L-60 on a Morris Chassis. One regiment served until 1962 as the SP LAA component of the artillery brigade of 1st Armoured Division. Sorry about the quality but it is a phone photo from a book.

 

[bhramos]

Indian Army Bofors FH-77B 155mm Howitzer!!!

 

[Suryavanshi]

Can NAG be used to target artillery?

 

[indiatester]

Can NAG be used to target artillery?

Sure. But why use a missile for an easy target?
The artillery will be deployed beyond range of NAG. If they are within range of NAG, they are toast by any means including guns.

 

[Vijyes]

Can NAG be used to target artillery?

Helicopter NAG (Heline) has range of 8km while ground based NAG has range of 4km. Artillery has range of 40km. MRBL like Pinaka with range of 65km ca be used to target artillery but the accuracy of these MRBL is not very high despite guidance mechanism as they are merely rockets and not missiles. Guidance only ensures some course correction but not full accuracy. The accuracy of that is about 1% of the target distance. That is, for 50km target, the rockets will fall within a circle with radius of 500 metres (diameter 1km) around the target

 

[Flame Thrower]

@Vijyes.....I beg to differ on Pinaka MK2.

You might be mentioning the unguided version...yes there is also a guided version.

Now coming to the accuracy, I remember unguided version has a CEP around 100mts but not 500 mts.

The guided version has 35 to 40 mts CEP. Thus making guided Pinaka a deadly weapon.

Addition to what you've said
A volly of Pinaka MK1 has power to level nearly 4 sq. Km area.

With guided MK2 the devastating power of MK2 increased by many folds(due to lower CEP)

These are used against marching enemy columns bringing them to halt and strike fear. They may not be used against enemy arty.

Counter Arty teams i.e., arty coupled with arty radars take care of these(enemy arty) threats.

 

[porky_kicker]

Indian Army Bofors FH-77B 155mm Howitzer!!!

what i find interesting is the equipment in the background - long range mast mounted LORROS

it is a force multiplier of sorts as it allows OODA loop implementation for our artillery / rocket forces

 

[TheHurtLocker]

what i find interesting is the equipment in the background - long range mast mounted LORROS

Long-Range Reconnaissance and Observation System or LORROS is a sensor system developed by Elbit Systems to provide long-range daytime and night-time surveillance. The unit consists of Forward looking infrared (FLIR) and Charge-coupled device (CCD) image sensors. Optional components include eyesafe laser rangefinder, built-in compass and inclinometer, which provide UTM location mapping. The unit can be operated remotely with a control unit for up to 100 meters, which can be extended to several kilometers using fiber link.

The sensor unit comes with a tripod; it can also be mounted on vehicles or installed on towers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-Range_Reconnaissance_and_Observation_System

 

[Vijyes]

@Vijyes.....I beg to differ on Pinaka MK2.

You might be mentioning the unguided version...yes there is also a guided version.

Now coming to the accuracy, I remember unguided version has a CEP around 100mts but not 500 mts.

The guided version has 35 to 40 mts CEP. Thus making guided Pinaka a deadly weapon.

Addition to what you've said
A volly of Pinaka MK1 has power to level nearly 4 sq. Km area.

With guided MK2 the devastating power of MK2 increased by many folds(due to lower CEP)

These are used against marching enemy columns bringing them to halt and strike fear. They may not be used against enemy arty.

Counter Arty teams i.e., arty coupled with arty radars take care of these(enemy arty) threats.

There is no fixed cep. CEP changes as distance increases. CEP is the radius of a circle with 50% probability of hit. I am speaking of 95% probability of hit. That is at 20km, 95% of rockets will hit within 1% of the distance from target which is within circle of 200m radius. For unguided one, it is 1.5% of the distance. In terms of area, unguided ones area of hit is 1.5x1.5 = 2.25 times more area than guided ones and hence guided rockets increases accuracy by 60%.

Artillery is used in hundreds and even thousands of numbers and using counter artillery missiles in that number is not very economical. Pinakas are cheap and hence better used against mass artillery deployment that are not hidden behind any mountains and are accessible by the simple rockets. Yes, individual artillery units are not target-able by pinaka.

 

[sbm]

Does anyone have any information on the artillery used by NCC artillery batteries? Any photos?

 

[Vijyes]

Does anyone have any information on the artillery used by NCC artillery batteries? Any photos?

You mean National Cadet Corps have artillery now?

 

[sbm]

Always did - I think I've seen 25 pdrs and 75/24s. They had armoured cars too at one time.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

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Always did - I think I've seen 25 pdrs and 75/24s. They had armoured cars too at one time.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

155mm upgraded M46 at Army mela at J&K 2017 ..

 

[sbm]

Nice going Kunal. Do we have an idea how many M46 were upgraded to 155mm? I like those of the NCC. I wonder if those guns work?