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Indian army orders 145 M777 ultra light howitzers from BAE Systems

New Delhi: Indian Army will soon get its first artillery guns since the Bofors deal in 1986. The Defence Ministry on Friday cleared a Rs 3000 crore deal to buy 145 M777 ultra light howitzers from the USA defence manufacturer BAE Systems.

The M777 artillery guns are essentially used in the mountains. These guns are air transportable and are currently used in Afghanistan by the US Army where their performance has been commendable.

India will procure the M777 howitzers from the US through the Foreign Military Sale programme.


The M777 is a 155mm 39 calibre towed gun and is the world's first 155mm howitzer weighing less than 10000 lbs (4218 kg).

The M777 can fire 5 rounds per minute and its firing range is about 30 km maximum.

The US and Canada are currently using the howitzers. This gun has also a digital fire control system.

The US Marine Corps and US Army inducted the M777 for the first time in November 2002.


The artillery gun deal comes at a time when the Indian Army is facing a severe crunch of such a weapons platform. The Army's artillery programme suffered a major setback following allegations of kickback in the Bofors gun deal in 1987.

For over 25 years the Indian Army failed to induct a single new artillery gun in its armoury, leading to depletion in its war waging capabilities.

The M777 matches the firepower of current generation 155 mm towed systems at less than half the weight. The howitzer is equipped with a 39-calibre barrel. The muzzle velocity (at Charge 8 super) is 827m/s.

The lighter weight and smaller size allows the M777 to be transported by USMC MV-22 Osprey, CH-47 helicopter or truck with ease, so that it can be moved in and out of the battlefield more quickly than the M198. The smaller size also improves storage and transport efficiency in military warehouses and air/naval transport.

The gun crew required is an operational minimum of 5, compared to a previous size of 9.
It was first fielded in Iraq in May 2007 and in Afghanistan in February 2008. The M777 can be transported by helicopter, transporter aircraft and ship.

The M777 is equipped with two wheels. When the M777 is in the firing position, a firing platform is lowered to the ground under the forward part of the carriage and the wheels are raised clear of the ground.

It uses a digital fire-control system similar to that found on self propelled howitzers such as the M109A6 Paladin to provide navigation, pointing and self-location, allowing it to be put into action more quickly than earlier towed and air-transported howitzers.

India orders 145 M777 ultra light howitzers from BAE Systems - India News - IBNLive
 

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how this can be possible??.what happen to our sarkari babus???


hazam nahi ho raha, koi his hooliness zaidu ki video post karo mera hazma kharab ho gaya ha
 

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Arya the title is " Indian Army orders...... " . Well Indian Army never orders any thing. It is MoD Babau who order.

And then for the small mercy of the cartoon that it shows Babus giving and taking, contrary to perception that Generals are the culprits.
 

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yummy!!!! its palm greasing time for bangaloora reddy to through a spanner and to make some quick bucks!!!!!
 

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yummy!!!! its palm greasing time for bangaloora reddy to through a spanner and to make some quick bucks!!!!!
You mean to say that they being DODOs can produce better guns than these and how dare MoD order these Guns at the bidding of generals.

Good thought.
 

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New Delhi: Indian Army will soon get its first artillery
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how many years does mean soooooooo.......................n to our leaders.
not acting good enough even when the required fire power has depleted..

are the howitzers tailored to any specific requirements??
 

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New Delhi: Indian Army will soon get its first artillery guns since the Bofors deal in 1986. The Defence Ministry on Friday cleared a Rs 3000 crore deal to buy 145 M777 ultra light howitzers from the USA defence manufacturer BAE Systems.

The M777 artillery guns are essentially used in the mountains. These guns are air transportable and are currently used in Afghanistan by the US Army where their performance has been commendable.

India will procure the M777 howitzers from the US through the Foreign Military Sale programme.


The M777 is a 155mm 39 calibre towed gun and is the world's first 155mm howitzer weighing less than 10000 lbs (4218 kg).

The M777 can fire 5 rounds per minute and its firing range is about 30 km maximum.

The US and Canada are currently using the howitzers. This gun has also a digital fire control system.

The US Marine Corps and US Army inducted the M777 for the first time in November 2002.


The artillery gun deal comes at a time when the Indian Army is facing a severe crunch of such a weapons platform. The Army's artillery programme suffered a major setback following allegations of kickback in the Bofors gun deal in 1987.

For over 25 years the Indian Army failed to induct a single new artillery gun in its armoury, leading to depletion in its war waging capabilities.

The M777 matches the firepower of current generation 155 mm towed systems at less than half the weight. The howitzer is equipped with a 39-calibre barrel. The muzzle velocity (at Charge 8 super) is 827m/s.

The lighter weight and smaller size allows the M777 to be transported by USMC MV-22 Osprey, CH-47 helicopter or truck with ease, so that it can be moved in and out of the battlefield more quickly than the M198. The smaller size also improves storage and transport efficiency in military warehouses and air/naval transport.

The gun crew required is an operational minimum of 5, compared to a previous size of 9.
It was first fielded in Iraq in May 2007 and in Afghanistan in February 2008. The M777 can be transported by helicopter, transporter aircraft and ship.

The M777 is equipped with two wheels. When the M777 is in the firing position, a firing platform is lowered to the ground under the forward part of the carriage and the wheels are raised clear of the ground.

It uses a digital fire-control system similar to that found on self propelled howitzers such as the M109A6 Paladin to provide navigation, pointing and self-location, allowing it to be put into action more quickly than earlier towed and air-transported howitzers.

India orders 145 M777 ultra light howitzers from BAE Systems - India News - IBNLive
 

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This is old news that defence ministry has cleared the acquisition. But the deal has not yet been signed and there is no formal announcement from BAE. The approval from CCS(Cabinet Committee on Security) is yet to be obtained.
 

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This is old news that defence ministry has cleared the acquisition. But the deal has not yet been signed and there is no formal announcement from BAE. The approval from CCS(Cabinet Committee on Security) is yet to be obtained.
But it seems the kick back has not been imparted.
 

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In Kargil, If IA gunners had these precision guided shells, Small recon party could have destroyed selected bunkers in both day and Night, We could have saved so many life there, Just sad..
thank god, some how we got Israeli LGM's and fired them from M2K's..
 

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The point to note is that M777 are 155 / 39 and maximum range is about 30 km only.
The GPS guided bomb is satellite guided and inputs from the satellites for these bombs can be manipulated in realtime.
That is what happened with first few testing of Brahmos. as rumoured.
 

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The point to note is that M777 are 155 / 39 and maximum range is about 30 km only.
The GPS guided bomb is satellite guided and inputs from the satellites for these bombs can be manipulated in realtime.
That is what happened with first few testing of Brahmos. as rumoured.
Just like FH-77, M777 with M-107 HE rounds archive 30kms, But with Bleed base round they can shoot to 39-40kms, With Excalibur round the range can be 50kms ( 20+ kms )

Can you elaborate on second part ?
 

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Just like FH-77, M777 with M-107 HE rounds archive 30kms, But with Bleed base round they can shoot to 39-40kms, With Excalibur round the range can be 50kms ( 20+ kms )

Can you elaborate on second part ?
HEER, Base bleed, Excalibur are specialises munitions catering only for special needs .

Artillery is supposed to be neutralising and supporting and for those major tasks no one uses that expensive ammunition, for example Excalibre can be used to destroy one odd bunker.
Hence, practically the range of M777 is 30 km for main tasks. That is good enough for mountains.

It was rumoured that initial tests of Brahmos failed due to US GPS and then it had to shift to Russian GPS. (Glonass)
 

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HEER, Base bleed, Excalibur are specialises munitions catering only for special needs .

Artillery is supposed to be neutralising and supporting and for those major tasks no one uses that expensive ammunition, for example Excalibur can be used to destroy one odd bunker.Hence, practically the range of M777 is 30 km for main tasks. That is good enough for mountains.

It was rumored that initial tests of Brahmos failed due to US GPS and then it had to shift to Russian GPS. (Glonass)

And we need M777 & Excalibur for special needs, The induction of Excalibur will help IA to neutralized selected bunker positions ( MG, RCL, ATGM & Command ) Bunkers at hills like in Kargil and in Eastern front, M777 main purpose in mountains, And indeed it will do other jobs too..

Its just a rumor, Other wise IA would never ordered these rounds..
 

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Excalibur would come in handy in neutralising forward command and control positions.
 

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Engage targets spotted by UAV deep in unobserved terrirtories...

Actually good to engage Tanks and Vehicles deep inside enemy territory or provide very close support within 150 m of the front line troops.

Good ammunition for engagement by SF inside en territory.

M982 Excalibur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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