Indian Army Artillery

[Patriot]

Do these upgraded calibre guns can fire shells like 'Excalibre' which provides range more than 50KM?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Do these upgraded calibre guns can fire shells like 'Excalibre' which provides range more than 50KM?

You can use Excalibur from Existing FH-77 Guns..

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

I am dying to see these guns in service, as much as our soldiers are dying to get their hands on these guns to protect us and themselves from the more modernized Chinese.

 

[utubekhiladi]

I am dying to see these guns in service, as much as our soldiers are dying to get their hands on these guns to protect us and themselves from the more modernized Chinese.

and i am waiting for the day when those mammoth guns will butter toast some porki arse.

 

[Neil]

Israel Replaces 155mm Guns With Smart Rockets

February 13, 2012: Israel has decided to replace its four decade old M109 155mm self-propelled armored artillery vehicles with guided rockets. This comes a year after deciding that the M109s could not be refurbished and upgraded anymore and would have to be replaced. At first, other artillery systems were examined. But then it was remembered that two years ago Israel had accepted that the U.S. use of GPS guidance in rockets, while more expensive, was more effective than the cheaper (but less accurate) Israeli developed rocket guidance system and even cheaper unguided artillery shells. So now the M109s are being replaced with guided rockets.
This radical shift in artillery weapons has been coming since the 2006 war with Hezbollah, when the Israelis found that they did little damage to Hezbollah bunkers, even though over 120,000 unguided 155mm shells were fired (mostly by M109 guns) at them. Meanwhile, they noted that the U.S. 227mm MLRS rockets with GPS guidance was excellent at taking out similar targets in Iraq and Afghanistan. So Israel equipped its 160mm Accular rockets with GPS. These 110 kg (242 pound) rockets have a range of 40 kilometers and enable one bunker to be destroyed with one rocket.

This was a big change. Up until Israel adopted GPS guidance for rockets they had used cheaper, but less accurate, systems for their rockets. The main effort here was the Trajectory Correction System (TCS), which was installed in U.S. 227mm MLRS unguided rockets as well as Israeli 160mm rockets. TCS used rockets equipped with a guidance system and radio. The ground portion of TCS consists of a control unit that tracks the position of the rockets in flight, calculates where they will land, and sends orders to the guidance system (small vanes) in the rocket. This makes the rockets as accurate as unguided artillery shells. TCS is cheaper than GPS guided rockets. Israel bought 48 MLRS launchers in the 1990s, but has mostly used them to fire unguided rockets.

Israel always recognized the superiority of GPS in some situations. For example, Israel developed LORA (Long Range Artillery Rocket) which is similar to the U.S. ATACMS. Each LORA missile weighs 1.23 tons and carries a half ton warhead. With a range of 300 kilometers, GPS guidance is used to land the warhead within 10 meters (31 feet) of the aim point. These missiles are expensive. The similar U.S. ATACMS, which is fired from a MLRS container that normally carries six of the standard MLRS rockets, cost a million dollars each. It's often a lot cheaper if you can use smart bombs (which cost less than $50,000). But if you don't have aircraft up there, or control of the air is contested, you can get a LORA missile on a target within ten minutes of the order being given.

Israel expects to replace a lot of artillery shells, air delivered missiles, and bombs with its GPS guided rockets and take out more targets with far fewer rockets and artillery shells.


Artillery: Israel Replaces 155mm Guns With Smart Rockets


pinaka and smerch comes under smart rocket category...??

 

[Kunal Biswas]

pinaka and smerch comes under smart rocket category...??

Interesting Development in Israel ..

Pinaka and Smerch are not exactly what that article was referring but Prahaar is smart Rocket or Guided Rocket System..

Though This development good in Israel Only not in Indian Army with Indian terrain..

 

[sayareakd]

Interesting Development in Israel ..

Pinaka and Smerch are not exactly what that article was referring but Prahaar is smart Rocket or Guided Rocket System..

Though This development good in Israel Only not in Indian Army with Indian terrain..

as one of my good friend and member here (Amit) once said Indian enemies and Israeli enemies are different, our enemies are more capable and have nukes. ........................................

 

[blueblood]

As i said the info is incorrect, the term used in Arty for mounted gun system is different from what these articles are showing..

Rest is been told before..

Artillery Guns for Army
Purchase of medium guns (155mm calibre) has suffered slippages in the past. However, the process for procurement of these guns is underway. The following modern artillery systems have been inducted in the recent past:

(i) Pinaka Rocket System.
(ii) Smerch Rocket System.
(iii) BrahMos Missile System.
(iv) Upgradation of 130mm Guns system to 155mm/45 cal gun system.

The operational preparedness of the Army continues to remain at the desired level.

The Government proposes to induct the following artillery guns in future:

(i) 155mm / 52 Calibre Towed Gun.
(ii) 155mm / 52 Calibre Tracked (Self-Propelled) Gun.
(iii) 155mm / 52 Calibre Wheeled (Self propelled) Gun.
(iv) 155mm / 52 Calibre Mounted Gun System (MGS).
(v) 155mm/39 Calibre Ultra Light Howitzer (ULH).

This information was given by Minister of Defence Shri A.K. Antony in written reply to Shrimati Usha Verma and others in Lok Sabha today.

HH/NN/RK
(Release ID :81640) [google this for link]

Hope this clears the air.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

The Government proposes to induct the following artillery guns in future:

(i) 155mm / 52 Calibre Towed Gun.
(ii) 155mm / 52 Calibre Tracked (Self-Propelled) Gun.
(iii) 155mm / 52 Calibre Wheeled (Self propelled) Gun.
(iv) 155mm / 52 Calibre Mounted Gun System (MGS).
(v) 155mm/39 Calibre Ultra Light Howitzer (ULH).

This information was given by Minister of Defence Shri A.K. Antony in written reply to Shrimati Usha Verma and others in Lok Sabha today.

HH/NN/RK
(Release ID :81640) [google this for link]
Hope this clears the air.

Got the link but in Indian arty there is no such terminology in that sense..

I dont know what they meant by that..




Mounted and Protected MGS on wheels are same Wheeled SPGH..

 

[blueblood]

Got the link but in Indian arty there is no such terminology in that sense..

I dont know what they meant by that..




Mounted and Protected MGS on wheels are same Wheeled SPGH..

The reason could be that IA never had mounted arty before. IA is going for every kind of guns out there on sale. Acquiring arty after more than 2 decades, maybe army is over compensating.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

The reason could be that IA never had mounted arty before. IA is going for every kind of guns out there on sale. Acquiring arty after more than 2 decades, maybe army is over compensating.

Catapult is a Mounted Arty in that sense, Though its called tracked SPGH..

 

[bengalraider]

Interesting Development in Israel ..

Pinaka and Smerch are not exactly what that article was referring but Prahaar is smart Rocket or Guided Rocket System..

Though This development good in Israel Only not in Indian Army with Indian terrain..

what is most interesting is the use of the TATA 8x8 Chassis as the prime mover in this weapons platform, the days of TATRA ruling the roost seem to be drawing closer to an end.

 

[SPIEZ]

what is most interesting is the use of the TATA 8x8 Chassis as the prime mover in this weapons platform, the days of TATRA ruling the roost seem to be drawing closer to an end.

No not the 8X8. It is way bigger than that from the picture.
It is a 12x12, or at least 12x8 depending on the acceleration given to the tires.

 

[blueblood]

Catapult is a Mounted Arty in that sense, Though its called tracked SPGH..

Mate, Catapult is a self propelled howitzer but not exactly the mounted one. It's crew operates from within the unit itself, thus is not dismounted.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Mate, Catapult is a self propelled howitzer but not exactly the mounted one. It's crew operates from within the unit itself, thus is not dismounted.

No, Catapult operates with crew dismounted, there are 8 men required to operate it..

Each catapult have its own ammo truck and Men are also carried with it, Though catapult have some place to carry ammo, catapult is a open system..

 

[bengalraider]

No not the 8X8. It is way bigger than that from the picture.
It is a 12x12, or at least 12x8 depending on the acceleration given to the tires.

Well publicly TATA has not exhibited a 12x12 yet, i would say it also could be a 8x12 with an extended chassis, though i acknowledge that TATA was looking at building 12x12 trucks for future defense applications, lesse who knows maybe this time we really get lucky and get our own homemade launcher chassis.

 

[Anshu Attri]

truth about rebirth of Bofors in INDIA (from 12:47)

gun is ready and they have already fired 450 rounds successfully......gun is successful - Gen. V. K. SINGH :balle:mg:

 

[pmaitra]

Why do I get this feeling that this picture was photoshopped?

Look at the trailer, the missile canisters and the missile tips.

 

[bhramos]

Why do I get this feeling that this picture was photoshopped?

Look at the trailer, the missile canisters and the missile tips.

its really a PS image,
as until now noting is made like this..

 

[blueblood]

No, Catapult operates with crew dismounted, there are 8 men required to operate it..

Each catapult have its own ammo truck and Men are also carried with it, Though catapult have some place to carry ammo, catapult is a open system..

AFAIK, the crew sits inside the protected cabin sort of thing, but you could be right..