Indian Army Artillery

[sayareakd]

This is a surprise for me as they said the plan is dropped and here they suddenly say that everything is on track and tommorow they will even say that INDIA has an ICBM with MIRV's. After all this is INDIA and no one can expect what the INDIANS may do and when they might do ?

I say it can only happen in India, about the bold part i see it coming, but we have part of it already.

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

http://weapons.technology.youngester.com/2009/04/500th-m777-howitzer-to-us-military.html

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

How many guns does the IA have in its possession?

 

[bhramos]

How many guns does the IA have in its possession?

Indian army have Approx 1000 guns, but may be only ~600-700 are operational

 

[sob]

Iirc our esteemed Defence Minister in a statement to the LS had said that there was no shortage of artillery with the IA, then why do why do we need these guns. Is it a case of misleading the parliament or poor homework by the minister.

 

[bhramos]

Iirc our esteemed Defence Minister in a statement to the LS had said that there was no shortage of artillery with the IA, then why do why do we need these guns. Is it a case of misleading the parliament or poor homework by the minister.

he has no knowledge about this guns, he says what his advisers and IA officals tell him, may these guns are mostly to be used in NE front.

 

[JAISWAL]

BAE is UK not USA.

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Yes, BAE Sistem is UK based but M777 guns are sold to us by its autonomus company BAE-US through US Gov. forigen militry sales program.

 

[Bhadra]

Iirc our esteemed Defence Minister in a statement to the LS had said that there was no shortage of artillery with the IA, then why do why do we need these guns. Is it a case of misleading the parliament or poor homework by the minister.

the esteemed Defence Minister spoke through the MoD Babu Draft who counted the numbers of 2 inch mortars and 25 pounders and came to the conclusion that there is no deficiency of Artillery in India.

He did not say that there is no deficiency in Artillery to attain the mission fulfilment objectives. He said about numbers which include water supply tubes to be counted as artillery.

What jokers these MoD goons are that they hold the country in such low esteem that they can utter anything as reply to a parliamentary question.

 

[Bhadra]

Iirc our esteemed Defence Minister in a statement to the LS had said that there was no shortage of artillery with the IA, then why do why do we need these guns. Is it a case of misleading the parliament or poor homework by the minister.

Would someone ask the minister following questions.

If the Artillery was adequate why The Defence Acquisitions Council (DAC) of MoD had earlier approved the procurement of 1,580 guns in 2007?

Why The DAC had also approved the procurement of 145 light-weight towed 155mm, 39-calibre howitzers in 2006 and an RFP was issued to ten global vendors in 2008 ?

Why OFB has now been asked by MoD to build six prototypes of Bofors Howitzers within 18 months ?

 

[Bhadra]

How many guns does the IA have in its possession?

ARTILLERY; ~200 REGIMENTS

Active Towed Artillery
105mm LFG: 700+ (Being replaced by 130mm M-46 Field Gun) - Not Successful

105mm IFG Mk.1,2,3: 600+ (Being replaced by 130mm/155mm M-46 Field Gun)

122mm D-30: 550 (useless)

130mm M-46: 750 (only for plains and no variety of ammo)
155mm M-46: 35 guns upgraded to 155mm calibre, out of a total of 180 guns, as of March 2005. (upgrade not successful)

155mm Bofors FH-77B: 410 (An estimated 100+ guns are cannibalized and are not operational)



Reserve Towed Artillery
75mm Mountain Howitzer: 900+

76mm M-48Mountain Gun: 215

88mm 25 Pounder: 800 (also used for training)

100mm M-1944: 350

180mm S-23: 100



Self-Propelled Artillery
105mm Abbot: 80

130mm Catapult M-46: 100+

*Both guns have been phased out from active service due to age/mechanical problems.
*A self-propelled artillery competition is underway in India.

Multiple Rocket Launcher (Artillery)
122mm BM-21/LRAR: 150+

214mm Pinaka: ~30 (one regiment per year)

300mm Smerch: 62 (deliveries commenced as of 2007 and will be completed by 2010)



Mortars
81mm Indian E1 + L1A1: 5000+

120mm AM-50: 1500+ (in service with mtn. artillery. SP versions with some Inf. Bdes.)

160mm Tampella: 200+ (in store)


Source : Bharat Rakshak :: Land Forces Site - Army Strength

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Because IA have many more 105mm Guns at storage, And that is what counted.....

105mm are good but when used against enemy arty they are out range, 105mm range is not more than 17kms..



What IA needed is to have a arty piece which have minimum 35km -40km range..

Bigger and faster rounds have more probability of inflecting maximum damage to Bunker and dug in positions..



155mm/52cal is what IA looking for since 80s through RFIs and till today we are only blacklisting major companies but not Babus..

OFB 155mm/45cal upgrade was liked by IA and this upgrade is going for 130mm/46cal and 155mm/39cal in IA..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

ARTILLERY; ~200 REGIMENTS

122mm D-30: 550 (useless)


Reserve Towed Artillery
75mm Mountain Howitzer: 900+
76mm M-48Mountain Gun: 215
88mm 25 Pounder: 800 (also used for training)
100mm M-1944: 350
180mm S-23: 100


Mortars
81mm Indian E1 + L1A1: 5000+

120mm AM-50: 1500+ (in service with mtn. artillery. SP versions with some Inf. Bdes.)

122mm are Very much active..

Most Guns in Red are now a showpiece in major cantonments or at junkyard as their spares are no longer available, though 75/88 IFG are use for training..

We have 120mm SP ? never seen or heard..

 

[Bhadra]

Very much active..

I did not know that! Thanks ! I only said it is a useless piece as compared to requirement of battlefield artillery.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

I did not know that! Thanks ! I only said it is a useless piece as compared to requirement of battlefield artillery.

Its better than OFB 105mm in range but OFB 105 advantage is it lighter and compact and portable to high altitudes..

 

[Bhadra]

Its better than OFB 105mm in range but OFB 105 advantage is it lighter and compact and portable to high altitudes..

Better than 105 in Calibre only but 15 km range less than OFB 105mm. It is essentially an anti tank How rather than an artillery piece capable of direct fire with HEAT etc.

 

[asianobserve]

 

[Bhadra]

@ asianobserve

First buy my Gun
Then buy my mover
Then buy my helicopter
then buy my ammo
then buy my axillary system
then buy my fire direction radar
then buy my NBC equipment..
Then buy my coat Parka for mountains.

the wish list is endless.......

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Better than 105 in Calibre only but 15 km range less than OFB 105mm. It is essentially an anti tank How rather than an artillery piece capable of direct fire with HEAT etc.

Its Range is 21km most for 122mm D-30..

OFB 105 can fire 105 HEAT if available..