Indian Army Artillery

[Prashant12]

High-altitude trials of indigenous gun


Pune: The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) is all set to carry out high altitude (HA) trial of 155 mm 52-calibre advanced towed artillery gun system (ATAGS) in Sikkim next week.
ATAGS has been jointly developed by DRDO and the private sector. In September last year, it successfully cleared the desert trials.

A senior DRDO official told TOI on Wednesday, "We will carry out HA trial next week in Sikkim. A team of scientists from Armament Research and Development Establishment (ARDE) and the army team will carry out the trial together. The duration of trial is not yet fixed but it generally goes on for a few weeks."

DRDO had carried out deserts trials in Rajasthan in September last year and its scientists claimed that the trials achieved the desired results. In fact, ATAGS set a record during desert trials, firing shells to a range of 48km, against the army's requirement of 40 km, the DRDO sources informed.
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"The HA trial is crucial and tough as the gun will have to perform in different weather and geographical conditions. During the trial, a large number of extended range full bore artillery ammunition will be fired from the gun," a senior DRDO official told TOI over phone from New Delhi on Wednesday.

The Ministry of Defence (MoD) had sanctioned the ATAGS project in September 2012 and DRDO, in collaboration with Bharat Forge and Tata Power, has developed two prototypes of ATAGS. These prototypes underwent maiden structural stability trials in December 2016 at Proof and Experimental Establishment, a government test facility at Balasore in Odisha, the sources added.

After completing all the trials, the army will conduct its own trials and analyse each result. "If the army has a doubt on a particular aspect, it will be again revisited and corrected," the sources added.

ATAGS has an all-electric drive, an advantage over traditional hydraulic drives which exist in other towed guns. The electric drives of ATAGS helps in handling ammunition, opening and closing the breech mechanism and ramming the round into firing chamber. The gun is expected to be inducted into the Indian Army by 2020, DRDO sources said.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...ls-of-indigenous-gun/articleshow/62501179.cms

 

[Suryavanshi]

High-altitude trials of indigenous gun


Pune: The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) is all set to carry out high altitude (HA) trial of 155 mm 52-calibre advanced towed artillery gun system (ATAGS) in Sikkim next week.
ATAGS has been jointly developed by DRDO and the private sector. In September last year, it successfully cleared the desert trials.

A senior DRDO official told TOI on Wednesday, "We will carry out HA trial next week in Sikkim. A team of scientists from Armament Research and Development Establishment (ARDE) and the army team will carry out the trial together. The duration of trial is not yet fixed but it generally goes on for a few weeks."

DRDO had carried out deserts trials in Rajasthan in September last year and its scientists claimed that the trials achieved the desired results. In fact, ATAGS set a record during desert trials, firing shells to a range of 48km, against the army's requirement of 40 km, the DRDO sources informed.
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"The HA trial is crucial and tough as the gun will have to perform in different weather and geographical conditions. During the trial, a large number of extended range full bore artillery ammunition will be fired from the gun," a senior DRDO official told TOI over phone from New Delhi on Wednesday.

The Ministry of Defence (MoD) had sanctioned the ATAGS project in September 2012 and DRDO, in collaboration with Bharat Forge and Tata Power, has developed two prototypes of ATAGS. These prototypes underwent maiden structural stability trials in December 2016 at Proof and Experimental Establishment, a government test facility at Balasore in Odisha, the sources added.

After completing all the trials, the army will conduct its own trials and analyse each result. "If the army has a doubt on a particular aspect, it will be again revisited and corrected," the sources added.

ATAGS has an all-electric drive, an advantage over traditional hydraulic drives which exist in other towed guns. The electric drives of ATAGS helps in handling ammunition, opening and closing the breech mechanism and ramming the round into firing chamber. The gun is expected to be inducted into the Indian Army by 2020, DRDO sources said.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...ls-of-indigenous-gun/articleshow/62501179.cms

Sir everything is nice and dandy about this gun but it weight whooping 12 tons whereas the M777 is only 4 tons, this is primarily dye to the use of Titanium alloy which reduces weight while keeping the same strength.

Hope as we go further lights 155mm guns are made using light weight metal technology. In a war with China fast deployment would be the key to victory.

 

[Kshithij]

Sir everything is nice and dandy about this gun but it weight whooping 12 tons whereas the M777 is only 4 tons, this is primarily dye to the use of Titanium alloy which reduces weight while keeping the same strength.

Hope as we go further lights 155mm guns are made using light weight metal technology. In a war with China fast deployment would be the key to victory.

This gun has an APU and can run around like a tractor on its own engine. M777 doesn't have all the extra facility this gun has. It is 12 ton weight not just because of cheap alloys but also due to bigger barrel and hence 30% higher range than M777 as well as faster firing rate

 

[tejas warrior]

Sir everything is nice and dandy about this gun but it weight whooping 12 tons whereas the M777 is only 4 tons, this is primarily dye to the use of Titanium alloy which reduces weight while keeping the same strength.

Hope as we go further lights 155mm guns are made using light weight metal technology. In a war with China fast deployment would be the key to victory.

ATAGS & M777 are both of different category.

Range of ATAGS are significantly higher than M777.

Watch out for Ultra Light Gun from Kalyani which should be ready for trials by Oct-18 which will be comparable to M777 with 30% cheaper.

 

[darshan978]

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[Kunal Biswas]

It just not lack and APU but crane and semi loader and has slower rate of fire so does lower range of just 24km max, Such gun is a compromise to adapt for mountain regions in Indian context ..

We need guns which can out preform FH-77 and M777 is a degrade in majority of aspect when compare to FH-77, ATAGS is what define future of towed artillery ..

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

I hope Kalyani 155 mm 39 caliber ULH will be inaugrated in Defence expo 2018 which will most probably happen in April. As per recent interview Baba Kalyani said it will be ready by March 2018 which is just 2 months from now.

 

[AMCA]

I hope Kalyani 155 mm 39 caliber ULH will be inaugrated in Defence expo 2018 which will most probably happen in April. As per recent interview Baba Kalyani said it will be ready by March 2018 which is just 2 months from now.

I am also expecting OFB 155mm Mounted Gun System this year.

 

[tejas warrior]

I hope Kalyani 155 mm 39 caliber ULH will be inaugrated in Defence expo 2018 which will most probably happen in April. As per recent interview Baba Kalyani said it will be ready by March 2018 which is just 2 months from now.

He had said March OR October ? I might be mistaken.

 

[Hari Sud]

Too many different systems of artillery for India are in the pipeline. All these are being encouraged by the the Indian Army. It is a maintenance and spare parts nightmare.

If OFB Dhanush is good then stick with it in large numbers. If ATAGS is far superior then dump Dhanush. The American M777 has a special use on mountain tops to scare the Chinese away, then keep it. For the truck and chain drive mounted guns, pick the most suitable one. India has already picked the South Korean design, then there is no need to work on local design. The Korean Thunder is 50% local as it is to to be assembled in India, hence keep it.

But do not test them to death. That is what the Army is doing. They are looking for defects and reject them. After so much use as the Dhanush and M777 were subjected to, any gun will breakdown.

The more important aspect is to work on the quality and quantity of ammunition. That is a short coming. Do not rely on unionized, do nothing, labor force of the ordinance factories.

 

[Kshithij]

Too many different systems of artillery for India are in the pipeline. All these are being encouraged by the the Indian Army. It is a maintenance and spare parts nightmare.

If OFB Dhanush is good then stick with it in large numbers. If ATAGS is far superior then dump Dhanush. The American M777 has a special use on mountain tops to scare the Chinese away, then keep it. For the truck and chain drive mounted guns, pick the most suitable one. India has already picked the South Korean design, then there is no need to work on local design. The Korean Thunder is 50% local as it is to to be assembled in India, hence keep it.

But do not test them to death. That is what the Army is doing. They are looking for defects and reject them. After so much use as the Dhanush and M777 were subjected to, any gun will breakdown.

The more important aspect is to work on the quality and quantity of ammunition. That is a short coming. Do not rely on unionized, do nothing, labor force of the ordinance factories.

Only 2 artillery systems are for India - Dhanush and ATAGS. M777 is an exception and is not a desirable option but merely a lightweight option. The SPG from Korea is not fully indigenous and hence need indian version to make it indigenous

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

He had said March OR October ? I might be mistaken.

He said march 2018 in the interview.
http://ajaishukla.blogspot.in/2017/10/metallurgy-skills-are-kalyani-groups.html

 

[tharun]

What is the barrel life of the artillery guns?

 

[Tanmay]

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What is the barrel life of the artillery guns?

I think its measured in number of Shells fired by that barrel. Will surely depend on the environment of deployment plus other factors like continuous use. It probably shows the volume of shells rained down on Pakis by the IA

"The M777 howitzer weapon system is a 155mm medium towed artillery weapon.. Muzzle velocity (at Charge 8 Super) is 827 m/s, and the barrel life goes up to 2,650 firings"
http://canadianartillery.ca/site-pages/155mm/

 

[Pandeyji]

Good news
The Jabalpur factory is going to manufacture 18 Dhanush this year.

 

[sbm]

Is there a printed source for this? Thanks!

 

[SanjeevM]

Good news
The Jabalpur factory is going to manufacture 18 Dhanush this year.

Only 18? Is this only for trials or for meeting army needs?

I wish the trials of every guns should take place on LOC.

 

[Pandeyji]

Is there a printed source for this? Thanks!

Read it in Patrika. They quoted factory manager. And Patrika is a very trustable news source.

 

[Pandeyji]

Only 18? Is this only for trials or for meeting army needs?

I wish the trials of every guns should take place on LOC.

LSP. To setup required machinery so full production may begin.

 

[lcafanboy]

Good news
The Jabalpur factory is going to manufacture 18 Dhanush this year.

Why are you dancing for just 18 dhanush in a year?

These reservation quota chaaps good for nothing workers at Jabalpur ord. factory should know Kalyani steel Pune can manufacture a gun per day, 365 per year............... now that is something to dance for.......

Plus much better ATAGS 52 calibre better than bofors clone Dhanush. If these idiots were so efficient why were they sitting on Bofors blue prints until Kalyani steel announced ATAGS and fearing their jobs they came up with Dhanush......