India Working to Divide Pakistan

[Kharavela]

I was just questing him because so many backing him up. I can't debate due to my limited English.

Mate, I need not judge your english. I just want you to name one person who has done half of what Dr Swamy did.

You belittled the persona of a man who has unquestionably brought high & mighty to justice.

I sincerely hope, you will write many names who have accomplished much more than Dr Swamy. Wish you luck.

 

[Kharavela]

In my understanding he picked up (wasted actually) so many topics that could have been used by Modi for political advantage.

Had #ModiSarkar picked up those issues during these years, why would Dr Swamy put his time & energy for those issues !!

 

[Bharat Ek Khoj]

Mate, I need not judge your english. I just want you to name one person who has done half of what Dr Swamy did.

You belittled the persona of a man who has unquestionably brought high & mighty to justice.

I sincerely hope, you will write many names who have accomplished much more than Dr Swamy. Wish you luck.

Swamy has accomplished only 2 things - Mansarovar issue and Ram Setu issue.
About corruption cases, hardly anybody has gone to jail or free now. Sonia, whom swamy called Goddess Lakshmi once, is not going to jail. He can do all these because of some kind of help, otherwise Rajiv Dixit has revealed more than anyone ever did. But nobody heard about him on Media and is dead now. The foreign media in india decides who gets limelight.

 

[Bharat Ek Khoj]

Had #ModiSarkar picked up those issues during these years, why would Dr Swamy put his time & energy for those issues !!

Just to waste it and jumping from one case to another.

 

[Kharavela]

Swamy has accomplished only 2 things - Mansarovar issue and Ram Setu issue.
About corruption cases, hardly anybody has gone to jail or free now. Sonia, whom swamy called Goddess Lakshmi once, is not going to jail. He can do all these because of some kind of help, otherwise Rajiv Dixit has revealed more than anyone ever did. But nobody heard about him on Media and is dead now. The foreign media in india decides who gets limelight.

With due respect to late Rajeev Dixit ji, he had only revealed information on various issues. He has never pursued those issues to their logical end.

Even if I accept your points & not counter them, that Dr Swamy achieved:
1) Kailash Mansarovar
2) Ram Setu

Do you know any other person in India who have achieved even this much ?

I sincerely hope, you will write many names who have accomplished much more than Dr Swamy. Wish you luck.

 

[Kharavela]

Just to waste it and jumping from one case to another.

Go through track record of Dr Swamy. He never jumps from one issue to another. He is feared for his dogged persistence to take the issue at hand to its logical conclusion.

 

[Bharat Ek Khoj]

With due respect to late Rajeev Dixit ji, he had only revealed information on various issues. He has never pursued those issues to their logical end.

Even if I accept your points & not counter them, that Dr Swamy achieved:
1) Kailash Mansarovar
2) Ram Setu
Do you know any other person in India who have achieved even this much ?

1000 year of attacks and lot of people from Bharat have achieved lot of things and even died for the cause. So you need to skip asking same question again and again.

What do you mean by logical end ? I read somewhere he has given all the proofs and is available in some delhi library, plus I never heard anybody filed a single case against Rajiv Dixit for exposing corruption.
for example,

All he got was death threats.

 

[Kharavela]

1000 year of attacks and lot of people from Bharat have achieved lot of things and even died for the cause.

Probably what other members were telling about you in this thread are right.

I am simply asking you to name persons from post Independence era.

So you need to skip asking same question again and again.

I am forced to ask same questions again & again, because you are not answering them and trying to shift the issue.
If you don't have answers, accept that & apologize for belittling Dr Swamy.

What do you mean by logical end ? I read somewhere he has given all the proofs and is available in some delhi library, plus I never heard anybody filed a single case against Rajiv Dixit for exposing corruption.
for example,

All he got was death threats.

A simple advice: Never argue with someone on the basis of hearsay.

Coming back to late Rajeev Dixit ji, proof given to whom ? He could have gone to Court on those issues & got order by Court to stop dumping. He didn't. All he did was to speak against those issues in public forum without pursuing the issues to their logical conclusion.

 

[Bharat Ek Khoj]

Probably what other members were telling about you in this thread are right.

And what it is ?

I am simply asking you to name persons from post Independence era.

Why should I only talk about post inde. era ?

If you don't have answers, accept that & apologize for belittling Dr Swamy.

F You !

he could have gone to Court

Yeah, we have the best judiciary system in the world, specially under Congi rule. I wonder if Swamy had filed the same national herald case during congi rule.

 

[Kharavela]

And what it is ?

Never mind, that will hurt your a*s...

Why should I only talk about post inde. era ?

Because pre-independence & post-independence are different from every prospective.

F You !

LoL !!! That shows your frustration of not having any answer.

Yeah, we have the best judiciary system in the world, specially under Congi rule. I wonder if Swamy had filed the same national herald case during congi rule.

Dr Swamy fought & won 2G case during UPA not NDA. Educate yourself.

 

[Kharavela]

There are millions of Swamy bhakts, lauding him as one-man army. If he is that capable, why did he merge his Janata Dal with BJP on the eve of LS elections and hitched onto Modi bandwagon? He has been in the political wilderness for many years..tried to capitalise on Anna Hazare fever in 2011-12, but got a snub from both Anna & Kejru.
Above all, filing petitions in SC does not make one a mass leader. Someone tell me what was Janata Dal's representation in Parliament over years?
Leave alone dividing Pak into four, Swamy can not even pull off a mass rally as Modi or even Mamata do regularly.

Read this:
https://www.pgurus.com/swamy-enters-rajya-sabha-preview-events-come/

 

[Kharavela]

Swamy enters Rajya Sabha – A preview of events to come
Subramanian Swamy enters Parliament (Rajya Sabha) after 17 years. Expect Fireworks.
After 17 years, breaking all the barriers of Lutyens Delhi, the irrepressible Subramanian Swamy is entering Parliament on Monday, the 25th of April. To say that there will be fireworks is an understatement. If Rajya Sabha TV were a private entity that traded in the stock market, its value would have shot up on the news that Dr. Swamy was being nominated to the upper house.

Swamy first entered Rajya Sabha in 1974 as a Jan Sangh MP. His first question in the house was to the then Prime Minister Indira Gandhi, on how General Insurance allotted an Agency to her Italian daughter-in-law Sonia Gandhi. Insurance Agency allotment was only for Indian citizens and it was a clear cut violation. Continuing his charges, Swamy brought out documents showing most of the vehicles of Prime Minister’s Office (PMO) and other government offices were insured through Italian daughter-in-law Sonia Gandhi’s Insurance Agency and thus it was also a violation of FERA.
…Swamy knows how to tackle the enemies and will change the chemistry and power equations in Rajya Sabha.


Hearing the question Indira Gandhi lost her temper and the ruling Congress MPs created hell in the House leading to an adjournment. But the next day, Indira Gandhi admitted that Sonia “made a mistake” by applying for an Insurance Agency(!) and had cancelled on previous day evening itself after Swamy’s pointed out the error. This was perhaps an implicit admission on part of the Prime Minister that the case was water tight and there was no way out. While his opponents never tire of saying that he is a maverick and can’t be trusted, history has proved that once Swamy trains his guns on an issue, he is seldom wrong.

Swamy became a National hero by dramatically entering and exiting the Parliament during Emergency days, challenging Indira Gandhi. Swamy had gone abroad under the instructions of leader Jayaprakash Narayan to campaign in foreign countries against Emergency in India. He was routinely conducting press conferences, seminars from different countries against Indira and her murder of democracy. Those days the entire machinery was put out to arrest Swamy as soon as he lands in India. But Swamy had a trick up his sleeve.

Swamy landed in India from the USA and walked off through Delhi Airport from a plane bound for Bangkok in the early hours of the morning. He booked his ticket to Thailand and exited in Delhi. As his ticket was to Bangkok, the flight passenger chart (also called manifest) did not show his name along with others passengers deplaning in Delhi. The sleepy duty policemen saluted Swamy as he flashed his Parliament pass and walked by. The fact that Swamy was not carrying any baggage perhaps fooled the Policeman into thinking that this was a VIP visiting the airport.

He then disguised himself as a Sikh and entered his home as a TV repairman, fooling Delhi Police. After staying for a few days he made a dramatic entry into the Parliament on August 10th, 1976. The Vice President B D Jatti was making a speech listing all the members who had died. Swamy intervened and asked the chair to add the death of democracy too, to the list. Before the watch and ward staff could react, he vanished through the corridors of Parliament. The RSS had arranged several smart boys to escort Swamy as he exited India via Nepal through Mumbai and Gujarat. In Gujarat, Narendra Modi was the young man deputed by RSS to assist the fugitive Swamy.

Swamy was elected twice from Mumbai North East to the Lok Sabha (1977 and 1980) and once to the Rajya Sabha. His fifth entry to Parliament was from hometown Madurai to the Lok Sabha in 1998. After the collapse of Vajpayee Government in October 1999, Swamy, the key architect of the collapse faced a setback in his political career. In 1999 Lok Sabha elections he lost from Madurai, as he could not manage support from the Dravidian parties. That period onwards Swamy gained the animosity of Vajpayee to Sonia Gandhi. His relations with Right Wing politics touched a low and he was lost from limelight.

In 2005, the Sangh Parivar and Swamy patched up. It was the RSS Chief Sudarshan who sent Ram Madhav as an emissary to Swamy’s home. But his enemies in BJP were not in a mood to settle. The anti-corruption wave in the country in 2011 became the rallying point as RSS was uniting all like-minded people, leading to Swamy joining BJP in mid-2013. Due to his enemies inside the BJP (whom Swamy refers to in Twitter as Shakuni) Swamy’s entry into Parliament was blocked at least four times in the past three years.

Now, like the ‘Return of the Dragon’, Swamy is entering into Parliament through Rajya Sabha. From his comments on Twitter, it is easily seen that he would not spare Sonia Gandhi. Now it would be fun to watch Rajya Sabha TV.

In the midst of all the UPA related scandals such as National Herald, Aircel-Maxis, Jet-Etihad deal, Sunanda’s murder etc., Swamy has unearthed a new one, about a Pakistani lady called Farida Ataullah. According to Swamy, this lady is closely connected to ISI and is based in Sharjah. Farida is a close friend of Sonia Gandhi. She has been travelling frequently to Delhi for the past 45 years and was a major presence at the Priyanka – Robert Vadra wedding. We will have to wait and see what documents and dossiers Swamy is going to produce in the Parliament on this.

He will not hesitate to use the Parliamentary forum to raise questions, interventions, and jump into debates against Sonia, Rahul, P Chidambaram, and family. One thing is sure – Swamy knows how to tackle the enemies and will change the chemistry and power equations in Rajya Sabha. The last bastion currently controlled by Congress and Left is under serious threat. Coming days are going to be full of fun and fire in Rajya Sabha with BJP shifting gears from low to high.

 

[Bharat Ek Khoj]

Never mind, that will hurt your a*s...

I have no problem with that. Shoot .

Because pre-independence & post-independence are different from every prospective.

I still live in Bharat, not india

LoL !!! That shows your frustration of not having any answer.

That was for asking an apology

Dr Swamy fought & won 2G case during UPA not NDA. Educate yourself.

And I thought my English is limited. Read again.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Regarding Quora article:
The author tried to analyse a person from his 2 tweets & an interview. Even in those tweets & interview, Dr Swamy has not said anything wrong. He stood with his previous statements regarding Hindu identity of India. In the same Quora page, I came across one post in comment section which I am quoting verbatim:
Manish Singh Bisht, wrote:
First of let me mention who is Dr. Subramanian Swamy:

1) A Harvard alumni and economist and ex cabinet minister
2) He has served as a member of the Planning Commission of India and Cabinet Minister of India and a expert in foreign affairs of India dealing largely with China
3) Got Tamil Fisherman released from Sri Lankan jails in 2014
4) Got the Kailash Mansarovar route opened from China for Indian Pilgrimage
5) Whistle blower of many scams of congress government including the latest National Herald scam
6) He has demolished many a myths about Sonia Maino, her false claims on her educational claims and her failed quest of becoming the Prime Minister of India.
7) He was elected Member of Parliament 5 times between 1974 and 1999. He has twice represented the city of Mumbai North East during 1977 and 1980, Uttar Pradesh and Tamil Nadu in the Parliament

So, Is Swamy a Hindu extremist?
No, in fact he is one of the most rational person you will ever observe. Swamy is an intellectual who has exposed Hindu suppression and muslim appeasement policies of government. He is one of the few intellectuals who has the guts to call spade a spade in case of Islamic extremism and in-tolerance practiced by Islamic extremists across the world and in India.
He has also pointed logically with examples that many Muslims sympathize with Islamic terrorism.

In all he has tried to awaken Hindus about how they are being fooled by Islamic and Christian missionaries in the name of secularism. Hence he has become the number one target of both.

I would like to quote Dr. Subramanian Swamy here, “The panic today is that if NaMo lasts till 2019 then he will last till 2029. So opponents desperate.” and you can easily imagine how spine chilling this can be for various.

Here is the video of Dr Subramanian Swamy talk at Princeton University, August 20 2015 where he talks about current India:

The most important thing about swamy which people miss here is that When Narsimha rao came to power, he picked up the blue print of economic development prepared by swamy and asked Manmohan to implement it. our Economic turn round is thankful to swamy. People gives credit to Man mohan but credit goes to swamy as well.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

I was just questing him because so many backing him up. I can't debate due to my limited English.

Hi Dear.

Write whatever you can write. Here people are not expert in English. Look at me.

 

[Kharavela]

I have no problem with that. Shoot .

I still live in Bharat, not india

That was for asking an apology

And I thought my English is limited. Read again.

I understand your "दर्द". Devoid of answer, your ego bursts into pieces admitting the fact. A typical #Presstitute mentality doesn't allow you to apologize.

 

[Bharat Ek Khoj]

I understand your "दर्द". Devoid of answer, your ego bursts into pieces admitting the fact. A typical #Presstitute mentality doesn't allow you to apologize.

I didn't know Swamy's PA lurk into defense forum who will ask me to apologize. lol

 

[Bharat Ek Khoj]

Hi Dear.

Write whatever you can write. Here people are not expert in English. Look at me.

I meant if I have to debate over swamy issue, I have to read a lot and then write again a lot, that could take days.
Actually I was just raising past issues related to swamy, and this fella took it everything so personally that even asking to apologize. This is worst than being an apptard.

It is even hard to debate someone who gives such a lame excuse and doesn't understand national security

Coming back to the Wikileaks revelation, that's nothing new. It's a known fact that Dr Swamy has a lot of American friends in different fields as well as in Govt. So he might have provided such information knowingly or unknowingly.

 

[Kharavela]

I didn't know Swamy's PA lurk into defense forum who will ask me to apologize. lol

Ahhhhh... That proves two things:
1) Reach of #SwamyBhakts is "अत्र, तत्र, सर्वत्र" &
2) Wherever Congi-Stooges like you are sighted, shall be targeted & humiliated by #SwamyBhakts.

Jokes apart, I believe that Apologizing represents your character to recognise your follies & accept facts gracefully. If you are not comfortable in accepting facts, I withdraw my demand for apology.

 

[Bharat Ek Khoj]

Wherever Congi-Stooges like you are sighted

LOL, it was me who called sonia Goddess Laxmi. And Rajiv Gandhi was my best mate. Right ?

Here's my apology to you
,,l,,
Keep defining my character.