India Strikes Against Pakistani Terrorism 2019

[Indrajit]

It seems nobody is pondering over the fact that what is making them try this near suicidal approach.

Except that it not been suicidal enough.

During Kargil war, Musharraf asked the PAF to challenge Indian aircraft. PAF officers said that the definitive outcome of that would be an attack on the air base from where the Pakistani aircraft would have taken off. That ended that proposal. Its plenty irritating to see the PAF still flying CAP close to the border. Post Kargil, the first plane that dared come close ended up being shot down.

Maybe the GoI does not want attention drawn to this since something might be happening across the LoC but the PAF needs to be brought down a peg or two.

 

[doreamon]

Defence Spokesperson Jammu: Today, no air space violation by Pakistan along the LoC in Rajouri & Poonch. (Earlier today,media reports had suggested an airspace violation by Pakistan.)

seems like it was our jet violated their air space. or just a jet patrollig in its own air space

 

[Kazah]

Pakistani newspaper ....clear indication to tell their masses that F16s were used

nice propaganda

 

[sorcerer]

Defence Spokesperson Jammu: Today, no air space violation by Pakistan along the LoC in Rajouri & Poonch. (Earlier today,media reports had suggested an airspace violation by Pakistan.)

Media hype on normal CAP routine.
That's all.
For person on the ground won't be able to figure out much anyway.

 

[Srinivas_K]

It seems nobody is pondering over the fact that what is making them try this near suicidal approach.

They lost some territory (BOPs) and their soldiers are killed. They know if this situation is continued they will go in a back foot and from then on, it is happy hunting for Indian army.

 

[indus]

It seems nobody is pondering over the fact that what is making them try this near suicidal approach.

Werent they sending drones repeatedly in Ganganagar area of Rajsthan, later we came to know India had readied surface to surface missiles in that area. So if PAF is sending fighter jets in this area, definitely something bigger has been done or planned in Poonch sector. If i am not wrong this area is manouverable by tanks. Right????. May be we have an IBG posted there.

 

[ezsasa]

Pakistani newspaper ....clear indication to tell their masses that F16s were used

nice propaganda

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Our Head line should read
Tera BAAP.

 

[Bhadra]

It seems nobody is pondering over the fact that what is making them try this near suicidal approach.

You went and bombed their territory in Pakistan..
You shot down their piece of pride F-16 with your junk called MIG - 21.
Then they missed their targets during the bomb run ...

Pakistani Air Chief and their Air Forces must be hiding their faces everywhere. It would be very difficult for them to answer questions. They are trying to redeem their left over prestige. They want to take revenge but stop short of war or help Modi any further.

And you are asking what they are doing ? There would be fire on their arses. None of them would be sleeping during night and Abhinandan would be scarring them in their dreams.

Saudis and UAE will stop hiring them. They would instead look for Indian pilots.

 

[AmoghaVarsha]

Yep, Indian late & lethargic as always.
Should have already bought them off-the-shelf years ago. IAF top-brass should have stressed it.

RFP for mid-life upgrade of Su-30MKIs into the 'Super-30' configuration with AESA, AL-41 engines and avionics was out in 2010... During last year's meeting between Modi and Putin last year it was restarted & Russia offered to do it along with their own Su-30SM... Still only talks are on, no updates.

The russians apparently asked for too much money for super sukhoi upgrades.

But there should have been no issues in buying latest R77 R27 and K77s.

Plus the Mig 29 upgrade has no AESA.Thats a big blunder.

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[WARREN SS]

Plus the Mig 29 upgrade has no AESA.Thats a big blunder.

But They have AESA DRFMs Virgiluis

 

[uoftotaku]

The russians apparently asked for too much money for super sukhoi upgrades.

But there should have been no issues in buying latest R77 R27 and K77s.

Plus the Mig 29 upgrade has no AESA.Thats a big blunder.

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Ruskies will squeeze us for Super Sukhoi upgrade for sure after we pulled out of FGFA. Our naive approach to Tech Transfer has left us vulnerable to this tactic unfortunately and dependent on Ruskie OEM for critical spares so we will have little choice.

Buying latest missile has become complicated because major part of R77, R27, R73 complex tech is from Ukraine and Ruskies have lost access to that thanks to their own misadventures. BUT here we have actually played card well by shifting focus to Astra and ASRAAM so we don't have to depend on Ruskie

For MiG29UPG when the deal was originally signed the AESA version of radar only existed as trade show display piece. Plus their AESA tech is unproven and suspect. Our Uttam project will yield better results in long term

 

[Punya Pratap]

Bhai Logon you are not able to understand the cause for PA/PAF desperation yet..... It so happens that tomorrow i.e. 04th of April the Na-Paki-stani farty army chief Bhadwa has to brief the Na-Paki legislators and he and his ilk are desperate to show something worth while... Kis muh se yeh log Akhnoor ka aur Hajira ka jawab denge??
Na-Paki farty army cannot let the legislators admonish or discipline them.... PAF may have been asked to try a bomb run to dislodge our army from the captured posts but turned tailed seeing the IAF was on to them much quicker and much better prepared than the 27th Feb

 

[AmoghaVarsha]

But They have AESA DRFMs Virgiluis

A noob question, will the virgilius EW jamming suite work with a Zhuk non aesa radar?

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[Kiran Ks]

Bhai Logon you are not able to understand the cause for PA/PAF desperation yet..... It so happens that tomorrow i.e. 04th of April the Na-Paki-stani farty army chief Bhadwa has to brief the Na-Paki legislators and he and his ilk are desperate to show something worth while... Kis muh se yeh log Akhnoor ka aur Hajira ka jawab denge??
Na-Paki farty army cannot let the legislators admonish or discipline them.... PAF may have been asked to try a bomb run to dislodge our army from the captured posts but turned tailed seeing the IAF was on to them much quicker and much better prepared than the 27th Feb

They will be as good as finished if they bomb the posts using fighter jets

 

[mist_consecutive]

It should be noted that, now IAF has full

So they did try for a mischief. Bhadwa must be so pissed abt Hajira, and wat can Gafoora do except from policing their tweet traffic.[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]




Some more info...

It should be noted that IAF now has operational clearance to freely target any jets crossing LOC without any warning. Before 27th Feb, RoE was to warn ingressing aircraft and make it immediately turn back. This constitutes of interceptors personally closing into the ingressing aircraft, visually identifying it and warn it by aggressive maneuvers and tracer cannon fire. If it keeps on going but surrenders (by lowering its speed, going in a straight path and lowering its flaps), aircraft is made to land. But if it doesn't surrender despite the warning, it is shot down.

But now, BVR game is on. Any ingressing aircraft is lightened up way before crossing LoC and shot at as soon as it violates LoC.

 

[Punya Pratap]

They will be as good as finished if they bomb the posts using fighter jets

You expect the Madrassachap educated nincompoops to have that much sense??

 

[Spindrift]

Btw Zaid Hamid a.k.a Lal Topi has been rather quiet lately.....

 

[White Wolf]

Pakistani newspaper ....clear indication to tell their masses that F16s were used

nice propaganda

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This is perfect headline which would cheer the madrasachaap awaam of Pakistan.

 

[AmoghaVarsha]

Ruskies will squeeze us for Super Sukhoi upgrade for sure after we pulled out of FGFA. Our naive approach to Tech Transfer has left us vulnerable to this tactic unfortunately and dependent on Ruskie OEM for critical spares so we will have little choice.

Buying latest missile has become complicated because major part of R77, R27, R73 complex tech is from Ukraine and Ruskies have lost access to that thanks to their own misadventures. BUT here we have actually played card well by shifting focus to Astra and ASRAAM so we don't have to depend on Ruskie

For MiG29UPG when the deal was originally signed the AESA version of radar only existed as trade show display piece. Plus their AESA tech is unproven and suspect. Our Uttam project will yield better results in long term

Well we have no other option for the Sukhois.

Russkies are using the R77-1 so it may be used by us too. Or may be the I Derby. ASRAAM is a wvr missile and not BVR. Also NATO missiles wont be integrated with a russian jet. So to match the american AMRAAMs MKIs and Migs have to either use the R77-1 or the I Derby.

Forgive me, but i am not too confident at Astra 1 matching the AMRAAM.

Remember, even Tejas cant use any European missile due to the Israeli radar.

What i also learnt is that METEOR can be integrated with the Mk2 in addition to the Rafale. Thats an option we must look at.

Uttam is some years far, the point is what can IAF do now to get back the BVR edge.

Right now PAF is happy to stay 20Km inside their airspace and fire Amraams at our Mkis forcing us to take evasive manuevers. By the time we recover, they have turned tail and gone back.



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[Punya Pratap]

Newspaper is asking IAF which one of these would IAF like to screw !!

Pakistani newspaper ....clear indication to tell their masses that F16s were used

nice propaganda

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