India Strikes Against Pakistani Terrorism 2019

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As Doval said in today's speech, Pulwama is not forgotten, believe me Pakistani intrusion by 25 PAF jets, 9 UAVs is also not forgotten. Time & place of attack will be decided by leadership. It means 3 forces chiefs and Modi. In the meanwhile, we need to plan well and prepare for quick execution of plans. My appeal to DFI members, get on social media like Twitter as keyboard warriors. Check for any News on NYT, BBC, REUTERS, RT.COM and post as many replies as you can to show Indian presence on social media. Soldiers can fight on ground but keyboard warriors can fight on social media. We can let Pakistanis to peddle their lies all over social media. Lies repeated 1000 times, world thinks there is truth in that. That's what Pakistan is doing. We as informed patriots should stand in countering Pakistani propaganda.



After the first insurgency in Kashmir was contained and while the efforts of reconciliation were underway, a section of intelligentsia created vehement anti-India discourse. This was the time when Kashmiris had started developing favourable views towards the idea of India


Traitors within have weakened our narratives. This cannot/should not go on unchallenged or it will spread like cancer.
 

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Lessons for India to learn from last month:
1. Either completely destroy the target or prepare for enemy denials and the doubts of today’s media. No reason not to use devastating bombs on the targets that world can see from moon.
2. Day 1 is the best day to deliver the ultimate blow to the enemy. After that fog of war and restraints come in to play.
3. IAF has lost edge over PAF when comes to A2A combat. AMRAAM is the most potent A2A missile at present in the Indian subcontinent. Time to expedite both iDerby-ER and Meteor integration.
4. Stealth aircraft have role to play in future warfares. Next time India wants to strike back, the stakes will be really high and surprise won’t come easy. Time to invest in F-35 or similar tech.
5. Information warfare is as important as real one. Plan ahead for the fallout with evidence and source control for media information. Keeping quiet doesn’t help.
Balakot strike was not to show the world what we have done or what we can do? It was meant to destroy the terror camps which we did successfully, it's up to a person to believe it or not. Our objective was to destroy and prevent further attacks on our land. Pak diplomacy to its core know what we have done in Balakot and 2 other locations which are never talked about. We will keep striking the terror camps on the enemy grounds!
 

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This article pretty much sums up what I've been saying throughout this thread and its predecessor.

Pakistan is back to 1971-levels of insecurity because the impunity it thought it got with nukes, which it used to foment insurgency in Kashmir and terrorism elsewhere in India, is now gone. This alone will go down as Modi's greatest contribution to India's national-security. Every future Indian PM will have to answer his/her people why he/she didn't invade Pakistan following an paki-sponsored terror attack, or pay a heavy political price for inaction.

https://www.livemint.com/politics/n...f-india-says-ashley-tellis-1552627862557.html
 

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India’s aircraft carrier & nuclear subs deployment a ‘no-nonsense’ message to China, not Pakistan?

China is using Pakistan as a tool to contain India, so the redeployment of an aircraft carrier, warships and nuclear-powered submarines to North Arabian Sea is a clear signal to Beijing, rather than Islamabad, analysts told RT.
Despite the heated tensions around the Kashmir region, “India does not base its defense preparedness on what Pakistan does or does not do,” Gopalaswami Parthasarathy, former Indian envoy to Pakistan, said. The country is much more concerned about “what China does to contain Indian influence in the Indian Ocean,” he told RT.

Pakistan is an instrument used by China to contain India through supplies of weapons, missiles and even nuclear weapon designs.

“Pakistan, by itself, does not worry us. We can more than match and manage Pakistan,” he reiterated.

Indian military journalist, Shiv Aroor, also said that the naval forces of the two neighbors “aren’t near peers in terms of numbers, strength or capability — Pakistan, for instance, doesn’t operate nuclear submarines or aircraft carriers.”

However, “if maritime hostilities [between India and Pakistan] ever did break out in whatever form, China would almost definitely be in the mix,” he warned, acknowledging that such scenario would be a problem for New Delhi.

China has a significantly larger navy than India’s, with a much more robust submarine force.

As for the deployment of Indian naval assets, it is “about as no-nonsense a message, as you can send,” he said, adding, however, that “war is realistically and hopefully a very remote possibility in the circumstances.”

Dozens of Indian warships, including the INS ‘Vikramaditya’ aircraft carrier and several nuclear-powered submarines, were withdrawn from maritime exercises and sent close to Pakistani territorial waters on Monday.

In the meantime, Aroor said, deploying a naval group this powerful to “deny area – or in extreme events, create blockades across crucial shipping channels” isn’t entirely “off the table.”

“Nobody thought India would conduct air strikes inside Pakistani territory,” the journalist added. “That line has been crossed… The ball in most ways is in Pakistan’s court now.”

The Indian Defense Ministry explained that the move was intended “to prevent, deter and defeat any misadventure by Pakistan in the maritime domain.” It indicated that the flare-up between the two countries, which began after a suicide attack on Indian troops by a Pakistani-based terror group in February and led to shellings and even aerial engagements in the border area, is far from over.

India’s relations with its other major neighbor, China, are also rather strained, as the two of the world’s most populous countries and fastest growing major economies are bound to compete. In 2017, skirmishes between Chinese and Indian troops broke out over China’s road construction in the disputed Doklam plateau in the Himalayas, but a major escalation was avoided.

https://www.rt.com/news/454166-india-pakistan-china-navy/
 

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For the last 3-4 weeks, our senior officers (Chiefs and COs etc) are visiting forward posts one by one. Is this normal? Or could it be to check operational preparedness for a big plan which is going to he executed?

I'm thinking too much right [emoji23]

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3. IAF has lost edge over PAF when comes to A2A combat. AMRAAM is the most potent A2A missile at present in the Indian subcontinent. Time to expedite both iDerby-ER and Meteor integration.
27 Feb engagement clearly shows that IAF is capable of Jamming and evading AMRAAM, specially the C-5 version that Pakis have. Kill probability (Pk) depends upon lot of factors. It's not as simple as purchasing a missile and pressing fire button.

According to IAF, PAF fired 4-5 AMRAAMs at Sukhois simultaneously. None hit and porks threw away USD 5 million. Even it's not known Mig 21 was hit by AMRAAM or ground fire or engine flamed out during barrel role or combination of factors. We didn't even fire R-77. So how you gave them upper hand in air combat?

Porkies didn't only rub LM nose in the dirt but they also flushed Raytheon reputation down the toilet. That happens when you try to retaliate haphazardly under pressure without solid plan.
 
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3. IAF has lost edge over PAF when comes to A2A combat. AMRAAM is the most potent A2A missile at present in the Indian subcontinent. Time to expedite both iDerby-ER and Meteor integration.
MICA RF Is Better And I already posted Its evidence If you want I Can debate it on

Its Has better NEZ against Aim-120c-5
Better Maneuverability
Improved range
 

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27 Feb engagement clearly shows that IAF is capable of Jamming and evading AMRAAM, specially the C-5 version that Pakis have. Kill probability (Pk) depends upon lot of factors. It's not as simple as purchasing a missile and pressing fire button.

According to IAF, PAF fired 4-5 AMRAAMs at Sukhois simultaneously. None hit and porks threw away USD 5 million. Even it's not know Mig 21 was hit by AMRAAM or ground fire or engine flamed out during barrel role or combination of factors. We didn't even fire R-77. So how you gave them upper hand in air combat?
IAF retains a strong edge over PAF in training, doctrine and tactics. Cope India and other exercises were no flukes. Each side has strengths and weaknesses. Their strength is their newly upgraded BVR tech. IAF has been observing them and training with various airforces that fly the F-16s which are better or at par with the PAF models.

IAF was asked to stand down after Balakot and observe a defensive posture. I am honestly not able to comprehend how anyone can say that the IAF has lost its edge. In an actual battle with real time data from Phalcons and Netras, Sukhois and MiG-29s playing their strengths even the neutral experts concede that the PAF will be forced to fight mainly to prevent total Indian air dominance.
 

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Indian Army Special Forces to get American assault rifles, parachutes

New Delhi [India], Mar 19 (ANI): In a major boost to the firepower of Army’s elite Special Forces, India is going to buy assault rifles, ammunition, and several other specialised equipment from the United States.

“If the proposal goes through, the equipment would be acquired from the United States in a government-to-government deal under the Foreign Military Sales route," they said.
The Indian Army already has American M4A1 assault rifles, which have been specially used in counter-terrorist operations and they have been successful.
The Army is also looking at buying more carbines for the Special Forces in the form of Belgian rifles which are used by the Special Protection Group (SPG) guarding the Prime Minister, which are easy to carry.
For long, the Army has been working to modernise its Special Forces which have been very effective in counter-terrorist operations and were also used to carry out cross border raids on Pakistan two years ago.
India is buying the equipment from the US after its planes hit targets in Balakot in Pakistan as they destroyed a Pakistani terrorist training camp there in retaliation to the terror attack on CRPF jawans in Pulwama on February 14.

https://www.aninews.in/news/nationa...ican-assault-rifles-parachutes20190319195349/
 

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Well What MBDA Claimed in 2010 in their Carrier Exercises


"MICA has a multi-purpose capability consistent with carrier aircraft weapons systems and a "pull and forget" capability.
Missile MICA EM about to be mounted on a Rafale M F3 during Operation Harmattan. (© MBDA) Missile MICA EM about to be mounted on a Rafale M F3 during Operation Harmattan. (© MBDA) Electromagnetic MICA is more for long-range engagements and the Infrared MICA is more for short-range engagements. At the end of 2010, MBDA announced a remarkable success rate of 93% on 240 shots made.

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https://www.defense.gouv.fr/air/technologies/armement/air-air/armement-air-air

In the air-to-air armament range, the air force is also equipped with Mica missiles (interception, combat and self-defense missiles). It is, today, the missile of interception of the forces. Thanks to this technology, the institution holds two missiles with different interception capabilities: the Mica EM (electromagnetic, commissioned in 1999) and the Mica IR (infrared, in service since 2007). This armament, 100% French, is exported to four countries: Taiwan, Qatar, United Arab Emirates and Greece. This small missile of 112 kg and 3.1 meters in length is highly manoeuvrable. Multirole, it is as much used for its long range (the class of the 100 km) than for the short shots (the class of 500 meters). It can be used in interception operations, close combat and self-defense.

Source:https://www.defense.gouv.fr/air/technologies/armement/air-air/armement-air-air

MBDA Claimed in MICA

  1. Higher G load upto 50g
  2. Higher Speed (Mach 4)
  3. TVC
  4. Better NEZ
  5. MICA NG Second generation of MICA designed against stealthy targets. Infrared seeker will use a matrix sensor providing greater sensitivity. The radio frequency seeker will use an AESA
 

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Indian Army Special Forces to get American assault rifles, parachutes

New Delhi [India], Mar 19 (ANI): In a major boost to the firepower of Army’s elite Special Forces, India is going to buy assault rifles, ammunition, and several other specialised equipment from the United States.

“If the proposal goes through, the equipment would be acquired from the United States in a government-to-government deal under the Foreign Military Sales route," they said.
The Indian Army already has American M4A1 assault rifles, which have been specially used in counter-terrorist operations and they have been successful.
The Army is also looking at buying more carbines for the Special Forces in the form of Belgian rifles which are used by the Special Protection Group (SPG) guarding the Prime Minister, which are easy to carry.
For long, the Army has been working to modernise its Special Forces which have been very effective in counter-terrorist operations and were also used to carry out cross border raids on Pakistan two years ago.
India is buying the equipment from the US after its planes hit targets in Balakot in Pakistan as they destroyed a Pakistani terrorist training camp there in retaliation to the terror attack on CRPF jawans in Pulwama on February 14.

https://www.aninews.in/news/nationa...ican-assault-rifles-parachutes20190319195349/
My niggas,

Looks like a deal to placate US ego. Notice similarity and source!

https://www.aninews.in/news/nationa...ican-assault-rifles-parachutes20190319195349/

https://www.aninews.in/news/nationa...-of-rs-1800-crore-carbine-deal20190316210306/
 

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India’s Defence Sector Taps Into AI To Accurately Identify Targets In Aerial Photos

A news report indicates that while the defence forces were relying on interpretation of satellite imagery which had so far played a pivotal role in identifying terrorists camps, the armed forces are mulling launching a AI engine that can further analyse satellite photos and video feeds from drones to identify images and patterns in real-time.
https://www.analyticsindiamag.com/i...-into-ai-to-identif-targets-in-aerial-photos/
 

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27 Feb engagement clearly shows that IAF is capable of Jamming and evading AMRAAM, specially the C-5 version that Pakis have. Kill probability (Pk) depends upon lot of factors. It's not as simple as purchasing a missile and pressing fire button.

According to IAF, PAF fired 4-5 AMRAAMs at Sukhois simultaneously. None hit and porks threw away USD 5 million. Even it's not known Mig 21 was hit by AMRAAM or ground fire or engine flamed out during barrel role or combination of factors. We didn't even fire R-77. So how you gave them upper hand in air combat?

Porkies didn't only rub LM nose in the dirt but they also flushed Raytheon reputation down the toilet. That happens when you try to retaliate haphazardly under pressure without solid plan.
PAF fired AMRAAM outside no escape zone which depending on many factors is less than 40km for AMRAAM. They didn’t throw away anything but prevented SU-30 from locking on attacking Mirage-III or F-16 themselves. Indian BVR (both Mica and R-77) lack the range of AMRAAM so reverse was never gonna work.
 

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Indian Army Special Forces to get American assault rifles, parachutes

New Delhi [India], Mar 19 (ANI): In a major boost to the firepower of Army’s elite Special Forces, India is going to buy assault rifles, ammunition, and several other specialised equipment from the United States.

“If the proposal goes through, the equipment would be acquired from the United States in a government-to-government deal under the Foreign Military Sales route," they said.
The Indian Army already has American M4A1 assault rifles, which have been specially used in counter-terrorist operations and they have been successful.
The Army is also looking at buying more carbines for the Special Forces in the form of Belgian rifles which are used by the Special Protection Group (SPG) guarding the Prime Minister, which are easy to carry.
For long, the Army has been working to modernise its Special Forces which have been very effective in counter-terrorist operations and were also used to carry out cross border raids on Pakistan two years ago.
India is buying the equipment from the US after its planes hit targets in Balakot in Pakistan as they destroyed a Pakistani terrorist training camp there in retaliation to the terror attack on CRPF jawans in Pulwama on February 14.

https://www.aninews.in/news/nationa...ican-assault-rifles-parachutes20190319195349/
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If they are serious about FN F2000 for army SF then it's great addition and much better than the caracal carbines
 

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MICA RF Is Better And I already posted Its evidence If you want I Can debate it on

Its Has better NEZ against Aim-120c-5
Better Maneuverability
Improved range
Range: No (No escape zone 50% less, range 20% less) for MICA.
Better Maneuvering: Yes thanks to TVC

Read more;
“MBDA was probably unamused by India Defence’s December 2006 description of its wares as “an advanced medium-range missile that is the French counterpart to the more capable American AMRAAM missile [link added]”. MICA would actually replace both the radar-guided Super 350 MRAAM and Magic-II short-range infrared missiles on Indian Mirages, offering better performance and range. While the MICA-RF does have mediocre range compared to the AIM-120C AMRAAM, or even the Russian R-77 used by the IAF’s SU-30MKIs, it’s unique in offering a MICA-IR heat-seeking IR version for a potent medium range ‘no warning’ targeting option. French pilots who used the MICA-IR over Libya report that its sensor alone is a useful input to their systems, and its passive seeker with lock-on after launch means that it can be fired from beyond visual range at enemy aircraft, without creating any warning from the opposing fighter’s radar warning receivers.”
Source DID
 

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Like it or not, you can't avoid our products: Chinese media to India
Global Times further advised Indian netas to muster some real strength instead of shouting Twitter slogans.
By ET Online | Updated: Mar 19, 2019, 03.17 PM IST
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The paper further advised Indian politicians to improve real strength rather than shouting slogans just on Twitter.
India's manufacturing industry is still underdeveloped and it doesn't have the ability to produce competitively, the Global Times has opined. That's why its long-running attempt to boycott Chinese products has failed so far, an opinion piece in the state-run newspaper says.

"Some Indian analysts have been appealing for a boycott of Made-in-China products. Especially after India's latest bid to list Masood Azhar as a global terrorist in the UN was suspended by China, the hashtag "#BoycottChineseProducts" has become popular on Twitter. But why has the boycott attempt failed for so many years? This is because India cannot produce the products by itself," said a blog published yesterday.

"Like it or not, they still have to use Chinese-made products because India still lacks the ability to produce on a large scale," it added.


The paper, which is affiliated to China's ruling Communist Party, said that it's the "forces inside India" that is hampering the country's reform process. Quoting Rahul Gandhi, the paper said Indian politicians should not use China to solicit votes.

"New Delhi should understand this: Diverting Indian people's attention towards China will only make its internal problems more serious," said the piece.

Relations between China and India have improved over the years and Beijing is also trying to address the trade deficit issue, it said.

"And it would be dangerous if candidates in the coming general election use the "China threat theory" to hype up nationalism and gain popularity. Sensationalising China affairs may help political careers, but it will not help improve India's economy, manufacturing or people's livelihoods," it warned.

The paper further advised Indian politicians to improve the country's real strength instead of just shouting slogans on Twitter.
 

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IAF set to induct Chinook heavy-lift helicopters to strengthen border operations

The Indian Air Force is all set to induct four Chinook strategic heavy-lift helicopters into its fleet on March 25. Defence Minister Nirmala Sitharaman is expected to preside over the event at Chandigarh.

The heavy-lift helicopters will be used for transporting troops, artillery and other heavy equipment along with fuel, to far flung areas along the border. These four helicopters will join the IAF base at Chandigarh, which has transport and helicopter fleet that caters to the high altitude operations of the armed forces.
https://www.theweek.in/news/india/2...thelicopters-advantages-indian-air-force.html
 

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Lessons for India to learn from last month:
1. Either completely destroy the target or prepare for enemy denials and the doubts of today’s media. No reason not to use devastating bombs on the targets that the world can see from the moon.
Agreed, although had we used thermobaric bombs instead of precision bombs, Pakis could have had higher plausible deniability.

The "relevant" world (i.e. NATO, PRC, Russia, or anyone with satellite imaging capabilities worth their salt), must have verified these strikes, including the SPICE-2000 penetration. Every major world power has HUMINT in Pakistan to verify that these strikes did in fact happen.

2. Day 1 is the best day to deliver the ultimate blow to the enemy. After that fog of war and restraints come in to play.
Agreed 100%. In this context, day-one wasn't the night of the strikes, but the day of the aerial combat. The night of the strikes was day-zero. On day-zero, our mission was to blow up those terror camps and not engage with the Paki military, even if they sent interceptors. We wanted to make this look like India taking unilateral action against terrorists, and not Pakistan (the country). Day-one, however, was a major provocation. They breached Indian airspace in broad daylight and targeted a Brig HQ on the Indian side. Notwithstanding the F-16 vs. MiG-21 dogfight and subsequent capture of an Indian PoW, India had a golden opportunity to retaliate the same day using 4-5 sqns of Su-30MKI armed with BVRAAMs, with their RoE and mission being "go kill as many paki fighters as you possibly can and establish air-superiority." We didn't do that, and wasted precious hours to instead go with a midnight naval strike (missile strike from DDGs) plan, which eventually fizzled out because by then NATO was able to sweet-talk Modi with trinkets such as "we'll get your PoW back and make sure JeM is shit-listed at UNSC, promise." Day-one is when I feel we lost the initiative.

3. IAF has lost edge over PAF when comes to A2A combat. AMRAAM is the most potent A2A missile at present in the Indian subcontinent. Time to expedite both iDerby-ER and Meteor integration.
Not sure if you can expand our BVR deficit to an overall A2A combat edge loss.

4. Stealth aircraft have role to play in future warfares. Next time India wants to strike back, the stakes will be really high and surprise won’t come easy. Time to invest in F-35 or similar tech.
I think future warfare will be in the hands of UCAVs. Ground strike vs. ground strike, their CH-5 vs. our Predator-C. India will never get a 5th generation aircraft from NATO without strings attached, and we will never be able to pull off action against Pakistan with US hardware. The moment we cross the 5th generation line, so will they.

5. Information warfare is as important as real one. Plan ahead for the fallout with evidence and source control for media information. Keeping quiet doesn’t help especially when your own political parties question the operations.
Agreed, India needs dedicated agencies for:
  • Information warfare
  • Cyber warfare and cybersecurity
  • Unmanned air warfare
When it comes to information warfare, they have a slight edge because paki press is not as free as India's, and ISI intimidates paki publications to fall in line. They have a much greater control over their press. We don't. What we can, however, do is start paying BBC, CNN, NYT, etc., their fabled "PR tax." It runs into tens or even hundreds of millions of Dollars per year, but in situations like these, they help greatly. By siding with pakis, western press has basically hinted to the Indians "pakis can't afford us, but you can, start paying up, and world opinion on India will begin to look very different."

6. This is not the last time India will have to cross the border. So prepare well and learn how to digest losses. No civilization ever succeeded without suffering.
I think the next time JeM pulls off anything on Indian soil, India will target CPEC infrastructure overtly. Mark my words.

Like it or not, you can't avoid our products: Chinese media to India
Global Times further advised Indian netas to muster some real strength instead of shouting Twitter slogans.
By ET Online | Updated: Mar 19, 2019, 03.17 PM IST
View in App


Agencies
The paper further advised Indian politicians to improve real strength rather than shouting slogans just on Twitter.
India's manufacturing industry is still underdeveloped and it doesn't have the ability to produce competitively, the Global Times has opined. That's why its long-running attempt to boycott Chinese products has failed so far, an opinion piece in the state-run newspaper says.

"Some Indian analysts have been appealing for a boycott of Made-in-China products. Especially after India's latest bid to list Masood Azhar as a global terrorist in the UN was suspended by China, the hashtag "#BoycottChineseProducts" has become popular on Twitter. But why has the boycott attempt failed for so many years? This is because India cannot produce the products by itself," said a blog published yesterday.

"Like it or not, they still have to use Chinese-made products because India still lacks the ability to produce on a large scale," it added.


The paper, which is affiliated to China's ruling Communist Party, said that it's the "forces inside India" that is hampering the country's reform process. Quoting Rahul Gandhi, the paper said Indian politicians should not use China to solicit votes.

"New Delhi should understand this: Diverting Indian people's attention towards China will only make its internal problems more serious," said the piece.

Relations between China and India have improved over the years and Beijing is also trying to address the trade deficit issue, it said.

"And it would be dangerous if candidates in the coming general election use the "China threat theory" to hype up nationalism and gain popularity. Sensationalising China affairs may help political careers, but it will not help improve India's economy, manufacturing or people's livelihoods," it warned.

The paper further advised Indian politicians to improve the country's real strength instead of just shouting slogans on Twitter.
Eat shit chicoms, thanks to US-PRC tradewar and ICT manufacturing being moved outside PRC, it's become easier than ever for India to impose tariffs and buy electronics from manufacturing sites outside China that now manufacture for the US market.
 

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Like it or not, you can't avoid our products: Chinese media to India
Global Times further advised Indian netas to muster some real strength instead of shouting Twitter slogans.
By ET Online | Updated: Mar 19, 2019, 03.17 PM IST
View in App

Agencies
The paper further advised Indian politicians to improve real strength rather than shouting slogans just on Twitter.

"Some Indian analysts have been appealing for a boycott of Made-in-China products. Especially after India's latest bid to list Masood Azhar as a global terrorist in the UN was suspended by China, the hashtag "#BoycottChineseProducts" has become popular on Twitter.


The paper further advised Indian politicians to improve the country's real strength instead of just shouting slogans on Twitter
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Many a sentences REITERATING the same version..same narrative..after every 2 sentence its back to the same TWITTER...SOCIAL MEDIA..INDIAN INABILITY
TWITTER...PUBLIC..SOCIAL MEDIA..
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
Well!!! Told ya..chinese is scared of OPTICS.
Time to double the efforts on Social Media to burn the chinese goods.
Also..chinese are advising Indians to double the efforts to PRODUCE OWN GOODS.
Thank you china for the INSPIRATION>.

Lets get the burning chinese goods... pre holi celebration at large on social media and celebrate it as a festival
 
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