India S-400 Acquisition - News Updates and Discussions

[WARREN SS]

We have no projects comparable to S400. Some basic research will tell you this.

Really What Is So Special about S-400 ??? That India Don't have ???Is S series Ever proved In real war Even PAC series And IAI Iron Dome is battle proven

Dude where did you get this?

Where does it say that a NATO member cannot buy weapons from outside?

What NATO treaty are they violating?


If they really are, why is no one holding them up for violation of so called "NATO treaty"? Why is US targetting them through CAATSA instead?

Do you Know ???Why NATO is Formed ????

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Now this ... https://in.reuters.com/article/usa-...sas-to-deter-data-rules-sources-idINKCN1TK2N0

But India should go ahead with data localisation rules.. H1B crazy guys might revolt .. but, with nationalism taking hold in America, they won't accept 70 percent H1B visas going to India for much longer..

 

[Defcon 1]

Really What Is So Special about S-400 ??? That India Don't have ???Is S series Ever proved In real war Even PAC series And Iron Dome is battle proven

Its range. It allows us to take down Pakistani aircraft within their territory. It is the second line of air defence after the BMD.

Systems operational or in development in india are not in class of S400. Lot of systems are not war proven including barak 8, brahmos, etc. Doesn't make it a wrong decision to purchase them.

 

[Defcon 1]

Do you Know ???Why NATO is Formed ????

Yes i do. How is it relevant to the discussion? Why don't you answer my questions instead of spinning the topic?

 

[WARREN SS]

Its range. It allows us to take down Pakistani aircraft within their territory. It is the second line of air defence after the BMD.

Systems operational or in development in india are not in class of S400. Lot of systems are not war proven including barak 8, brahmos, etc. Doesn't make it a wrong decision to purchase them.

Barak -8 Is proven its just extension of Iron Dome

And Barak-8 or MR SAM has Similar capabilities Likes of S-400 Along With Spyder SAM

Akash project another SAM project After that Akash NM ???

AAD is Also Has Fighter interception Ability

PAC-3 And PAC-4 is much more Combat proven And Medium range

S-400 Is Just over hype product

 

[WARREN SS]

Yes i do. How is it relevant to the discussion? Why don't you answer my questions instead of spinning the topic?

Its Within Question Itself Formation of NATO is a collective Military alliance

Read


Article 8
Each Party declares that none of the international engagements now in force between it and any other of the Parties or any third State is in conflict with the provisions of this Treaty, and undertakes not to enter into any international engagement in conflict with this Treaty.

 

[Defcon 1]

Barak -8 Is proven its just extension of Iron Dome

And Barak-8 or MR SAM has Similar capabilities Likes of S-400 Along With Spyder SAM

Akash project another SAM project After that Akash NM ???

AAD is Also Has Fighter interception Ability

PAC-3 And PAC-4 is much more Combat proven

As I said, you need to do some basic research.

S400's 40N6E missile's range is 380 km. Barak 8's range is 70 km. In which world are they comparable?

Akash's range is 30 km. Comparing it with S400 is a joke.

Patriot systems are about 6 times costly as compared to S400 as per some estimates.
Right now you are vomiting BS without any idea about the systems you are talking about.

 

[Defcon 1]

Its Within Question Itself Formation of NATO is a collective Military alliance

Read


Article 8
Each Party declares that none of the international engagements now in force between it and any other of the Parties or any third State is in conflict with the provisions of this Treaty, and undertakes not to enter into any international engagement in conflict with this Treaty.

You should read it yourself properly and understand it. NATO is not in conflict with Russia. This is exactly why NATO has taken no action again S400 purchase. America is unilaterally trying to bully turkey using the F35 program and CAATSA.

 

[WARREN SS]

You should read it yourself properly and understand it. NATO is not in conflict with Russia. This is exactly why NATO has taken no action again S400 purchase. America is unilaterally trying to bully turkey using the F35 program and CAATSA.

NATO Allies Put Sanctions on Russians Is gesture of Friendship???

NATO Exercise againat Russian in Ukraine


Turkey buying Weapons To china Is Like Israel or russia allows selling Weapons To Pakistan

Do you Allow Weapons Sales to pakistan From russia Since We are Not Any kind Armed Conflict With them
And they Are SCO members ???

 

[Defcon 1]

NATO Allies Put Sanctions on Russians Is gesture of Friendship???

NATO Exercise againat Russian in Ukraine


Turkey buying Weapons To china Is Like Israel or russia allows selling Weapons To Pakistan

Do you Allow Weapons Sales to pakistan From russia Since We are Not Any kind Armed Conflict With them
And they Are SCO members ???

OMG this is so funny. Can you please stop embarrassing yourself?

Yes Russia does exports weapons to Pakistan. Its JF 17 uses the Russian RD93 engine. Russians also have recently exported Mi35 to Pakistan. Its a free world.

 

[WARREN SS]

As I said, you need to do some basic research.

S400's 40N6E missile's range is 380 km. Barak 8's range is 70 km. In which world are they comparable?

Akash's range is 30 km. Comparing it with S400 is a joke.

Patriot systems are about 6 times costly as compared to S400 as per some estimates.
Right now you are vomiting BS without any idea about the systems you are talking about.

40N6E is Missile Which Used for Anti ballistic capability Not anti-Aircraft Any Aircraft Will Easily Evade Missile At 380 KM

LR SAM has Range 100 Km And Will Extended To 150 KM

 

[WARREN SS]

OMG this is so funny. Can you please stop embarrassing yourself?

Yes Russia does exports weapons to Pakistan. Its JF 17 uses the Russian RD93 engine. Russians also have recently exported Mi35 to Pakistan. Its a free world.

OMG is Word Army Uses Whenever They have deal With Cheap Crap of Legacy Russian junk

RD-93 Engines are exported through Chinese not Russians

Recently India protested Russians for any Weapon Sale to Pakistan

 

[Defcon 1]

40N6E is Missile Which Used for Anti ballistic capability Not anti-Aircraft Any Aircraft Will Easily Evade Missile At 380 KM

LR SAM has Range 100 Km And Will Extended To 150 KM

Stupidity has no cure.

The 40N6 is an extremely long range, hypersonic, Surface-to-Air Missile (SAM) designed to engage low maneuverable aerodynamic targets at ranges of up to 400 kilometers. The new missile is the weapon of choice against Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS) aircraft, tankers and electronic warfare aircraft which are highly valuable and also feature low maneuverability.

From:
http://www.deagel.com/Defensive-Weapons/40N6_a000990001.aspx

 

[Defcon 1]

OMG is Word Army Uses Whenever They have deal With Cheap Crap of Legacy Russian junk

RD-93 Engines are exported through Chinese not Russians

Recently India protested Russians for any Weapon Sale to Pakistan

Good. Now that you have accepted that Russia already sells weapons to Pakistan and India protested about it, you should now go back and correct your other mistakes as well.

 

[WARREN SS]

Stupidity has no cure.

The 40N6 is an extremely long range, hypersonic, Surface-to-Air Missile (SAM) designed to engage low maneuverable aerodynamic targets at ranges of up to 400 kilometers. The new missile is the weapon of choice against Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS) aircraft, tankers and electronic warfare aircraft which are highly valuable and also feature low maneuverability.

From:
http://www.deagel.com/Defensive-Weapons/40N6_a000990001.aspx

You throwing A brochure Now What are A fan boy

I mean If Missile Will Fired To Shoot Down aircraft At 380 km or AWACs isn't
AWACS can detect that Missile over 300 KM Pull off ECCM and Escort jamming

 

[Defcon 1]

You throwing A brochure Now What are A fan boy

I mean If Missile Will Fired To Shoot Down aircraft At 380 km or AWACs isn't
AWACS can detect that Missile over 300 KM Pull off ECCM and Escort jamming

Atleast I am not throwing stuff out of my a$$ unlike you. And please tell me where did I say that s400 will fire at the aircraft at a range of 380 km? Please show it, don't try to spin the words again like you have been doing till now.

 

[WARREN SS]

Good. Now that you have accepted that Russia already sells weapons to Pakistan and India protested about it, you should now go back and correct your other mistakes as well.

No It can't Russians Can't sell weapons To Pakistan Directly

In S-400 deal there clause that added Specially no sale to Pakistan

http://www.defencenews.in/article/R...n-never-sell-S-400-Systems-to-Pakistan-580951

 

[Defcon 1]

No It can't Russians Can't sell weapons To Pakistan Directly

In S-400 deal there clause that added Specially no sale to Pakistan

http://www.defencenews.in/article/R...n-never-sell-S-400-Systems-to-Pakistan-580951

Your source contradicts you. As again, you never read. No wonder you have so many comprehension issues.

As per your source:

The rider clause prevents Russia from selling the S-400 Missile System or any similar or advance Air Defence System to Pakistan under any circumstances.

So clause is only for S400 and similar air defence systems, not other weapons.

Btw, if we believe that your source is correct, this gives another reason to India to go for s400. Lol

 

[WARREN SS]

Atleast I am not throwing stuff out of my a$$ unlike you. And please tell me where did I say that s400 will fire at the aircraft at a range of 380 km? Please show it, don't try to spin the words again like you have been doing till now.

Well then It Just Selling Pitch gimmick ???

When LR SAM its Self have 100 K range
https://www.livefistdefence.com/2015/09/exclusive-indo-israeli-lrsam-range.html

And Will Extended To 150 km For Anti Air craft

India Already have BMD And SwordFish AESA radar And ELTA MF-STAR AESA

Why the He We Spend billion on Russian over-hyped junk Which has nothing Actual Add to our capability

 

[Defcon 1]

Well then It Just Selling Pitch gimmick ???

When LR SAM its Self have 100 K range

http://www.defencenews.in/article/R...n-never-sell-S-400-Systems-to-Pakistan-580951

And Will Extended To 150 km For Anti Air craft

India Already have BMD And SwordFish AESA radar And ELTA MF-STAR AESA

Why the He We Spend billion on Russian over-hyped junk Which has nothing Actual Add to our capability

Spinning words again as usual despite me specifically asking you not to.

Show me where did I say that S400 will fire at AWACS at a range of 380 km or apologize for lying. No point in engaging you otherwise.