India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

[FalconSlayers]

@FalconSlayers substance or hot air?

It had substance for Ikhwan-Ul Muslimeen not Kashmiri Pandits, we were asked to stay there (and die) as Indian gov will control this. 30 years on nothing happened. Pakistan‘s existence is detrimental to India’s sovereignty.

 

[Jimih]

kyun vishwas karna kuch bhi... sab kheyali pulao hai... khus raho

Chill mate...I just wanted to confirm it from the local resident himself.

 

[nWo 4 Life]

ek sikh retd brigadier ne Twitter pe likha tha... last yr

Oh. Well, I don't know how much credence can be given to this.

 

[Jimih]

I believe there was a table which specifies how many Jihadis were killed each year in the Kashmir Insurgency from the 90s
With their nationalities as well
Anybody has that table?

Here you go

 

[iNorthernerOn9]

Oh. Well, I don't know how much credence can be given to this.

you won't find any source... bcoz we are not Israel & our little dick governments don't publish or glorify our exploits

anyways this was a bid that didn't succeed bcoz there were no takers in that community

 

[iNorthernerOn9]

Here you go

View attachment 95436

highly conservative estimates

bcoz for 3-4 yrs before 2019... each yr 150-200 were being killed

 

[nWo 4 Life]

you won't find any source... bcoz we are not Israel & our little dick governments don't publish or glorify our exploits

anyways this was a bid that didn't succeed bcoz there were no takers in that community

Well, it just feels a bit rich for that retired Brigadier to say that he feels nothing for the Kashmiri Pandits. Someone should have asked him what did the Army itself do to help Pandits? As far as I know, they did nothing to help them and allowed them to die at the beginning because they didn't receive orders from the government at first. So maybe he should check his own actions before victim blaming.

And that is what people who say the Army will protect Hindus need to understand. The Army is just an arm of the government and will do nothing to help us unless ordered. In fact, they might even shoot us if the government orders them to.

 

[Ayushraj]

Cold start doctrine is outdated.
Era of theatre command has begun

 

[mokoman]

Well, it just feels a bit rich for that retired Brigadier to say that he feels nothing for the Kashmiri Pandits. Someone should have asked him what did the Army itself do to help Pandits? As far as I know, they did nothing to help them and allowed them to die at the beginning because they didn't receive orders from the government at first. So maybe he should check his own actions before victim blaming.

And that is what people who say the Army will protect Hindus need to understand. The Army is just an arm of the government and will do nothing to help us unless ordered. In fact, they might even shoot us if the government orders them to.

he is just writing up bullshit .

the twitter posts he posts are from pakistani accounts.

get what i am saying ?

 

[IndianYonko]

he is just writing up bullshit .

the twitter posts he posts are from pakistani accounts.

get what i am saying ?

Fake account or rot is deep?

 

[Knowitall]

Well, it just feels a bit rich for that retired Brigadier to say that he feels nothing for the Kashmiri Pandits. Someone should have asked him what did the Army itself do to help Pandits? As far as I know, they did nothing to help them and allowed them to die at the beginning because they didn't receive orders from the government at first. So maybe he should check his own actions before victim blaming.

And that is what people who say the Army will protect Hindus need to understand. The Army is just an arm of the government and will do nothing to help us unless ordered. In fact, they might even shoot us if the government orders them to.

Kashmiri pandits have a history of going against their own hindu brethren.

In the past most hindus were actively discouraged and barred from entering kashmir by Kashmiri pandits themselves who wanted a monopoly on the govt institutions and bussiness in kashmir.

Lower casts were treated like shit so they never came to help them during D-day.

Kashmiri pandits held a lot of powerful positions in the congress govt but never tried for any Changes and were running on the we will dominate them with knowledge weed. It cost them everything in the end.

 

[mokoman]

Fake account or rot is deep?

unless he can quote a source , he just bullshitting ,

kinda suspicious that he is posting paki twitter posts and quoting paki talking points.

 

[nWo 4 Life]

Kashmiri pandits have a history of going against their own hindu brethren.

In the past most hindus were actively discouraged and barred from entering kashmir by Kashmiri pandits themselves who wanted a monopoly on the govt institutions and bussiness in kashmir.

Lower casts were treated like shit so they never came to help them during D-day.

Kashmiri pandits held a lot of powerful positions in the congress govt but never tried for any Changes and were running on the we will dominate them with knowledge weed. It cost them everything in the end.

I don't doubt THESE things. But I doubt what the other guy was saying that the government promised Pandits TRUCKLOADS OF WEAPONS to go back and fight and that a real retired Brigadier would say this in a TWEET of all things. Plus, there was an abdication of responsibility from everyone. The Army, the government and the Pandits themselves.

 

[iNorthernerOn9]

he is just writing up bullshit .

the twitter posts he posts are from pakistani accounts.

get what i am saying ?

ok everything emanates from Pakistan in your part of world... not mine

 

[ezsasa]

I don't doubt THESE things. But I doubt what the other guy was saying that the government promised Pandits TRUCKLOADS OF WEAPONS to go back and fight and that a real retired Brigadier would say this in a TWEET of all things. Plus, there was an abdication of responsibility from everyone. The Army, the government and the Pandits themselves.

it was not abdication of responsibility, it was a new kind of warfare that GoI was not prepared for. it took a few years for national security establishment to get a hang of things, but by then the damage has already been done.

 

[Knowitall]

I don't doubt THESE things. But I doubt what the other guy was saying that the government promised Pandits TRUCKLOADS OF WEAPONS to go back and fight and that a real retired Brigadier would say this in a TWEET of all things. Plus, there was an abdication of responsibility from everyone. The Army, the government and the Pandits themselves.

That is nonsense.

IB is heavily compromised with factional politics no way they were sending teams around India talking about stroking a insurgency in kashmir. 1 leak and all media houses will go nuts for months.

You cannot just give them weapons and throw them into kashmir where will they stay which area is safe where can they set up camp what about food jobs money etc.

There are a multitude of issues that need to be addressed first before you decide to send KP's back to kashmir.

Half assed attempts like domicile means that the few who went their were shot and returned in body bags thus making sure that others don't come up with the same idea.

Govt is now slowly but steadily setting things up in the hope that one day KP's can go back to kashmir if ever. It is a very difficult task because repopulation in a hostile environment is very difficult.

 

[nWo 4 Life]

it was not abdication of responsibility, it was a new kind of warfare that GoI was not prepared for. it took a few years for national security establishment to get a hang of things, but by then the damage has already been done.

How so? Weren't we sending troops to fight LTTE years before the exodus? Surely we had at least SOME amount of knowledge to fight back. My point is that the security forces didn't even get involved in the first half of the exodus and just let them all die and flee. Only in the later periods, did they finally enter and try to clean up the mess. This is unacceptable.

And I'm not crying over spilt milk, I'm just saying that it is not a smart idea to depend on the government or the military for internal safety as far as jihadists go.

 

[OnePunchMan]

The porks mostly have tactical nukes and we have city busters.SIPRI will be shocked when 200kt weapon fall in la"whore"

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Someone finally who pronounces LaWhore correctly , so proud of you

 

[Tactical Doge]

That doesn't answer me. I have also mentioned about HM Patel sending Policemen.
But I want answer to your statement



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1. Who was managing/ ruling those Island before 1947.
2. Under which clause of India's India's Independence act determined the above statement of yours.

Pakistan wanted to occupy and then conduct a plebiscite to transfer the accreditation. But that was an afterthought.

But, by no means one can say that those Islands were technically supposed to go to them.

Because
1. Before 1947 those Island were administered directly under Madras presidency and Madras presidency wasn't to be bifurcated based on religion.
2. To join India or Pakistan was a choice for princely states ( with certain conditions) again which is not the case here.

Hope it clears the situation.

Thanks for elaborating
The word "technically" stirred it up I believe

 

[Indrajit]

That is nonsense.

IB is heavily compromised with factional politics no way they were sending teams around India talking about stroking a insurgency in kashmir. 1 leak and all media houses will go nuts for months.

You cannot just give them weapons and throw them into kashmir where will they stay which area is safe where can they set up camp what about food jobs money etc.

There are a multitude of issues that need to be addressed first before you decide to send KP's back to kashmir.

Half assed attempts like domicile means that the few who went their were shot and returned in body bags thus making sure that others don't come up with the same idea.

Govt is now slowly but steadily setting things up in the hope that one day KP's can go back to kashmir if ever. It is a very difficult task because repopulation in a hostile environment is very difficult.

Ya, that's a far fetched tale. 1991-92 was a rough time and even the army had its hands full. The last thing anyone would have wanted is to babysit KP's who were the primary targets of the militants and any militia would have given the terrorists a better standing to kill more of that community. The aim at that time was to remove KP's from the picture before the Iron hand was laid out on the populace. Nobody foresaw such a long exile but KP's were very vulnerable in Kashmir. No one was sending them back. Not at that time.