India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

nongaddarliberal

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Stop being dramatic. IA has conducted some of the most daunting military operations in the history of modern armed forces. If you think this was bad, you have no idea how the 90s in Kashmir were.

It's a setback no doubt, but the army will go on a hunting spree now.



Would it kill DRDO to develop the MALE and HALE UAVs any faster :mad2: ?!
The most logical counter to this is to use proxies to impose casualties on them in KPK. Especially officers. A Colonel for a Colonel. A major for a major.

Meanwhile within Kashmir itself, they need to really rethink their entire encounter strategy.
 

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Terrain is a bit different, we are fighting insurgents/light infantry in kashmir valley, while we are against a conventional force in LaC

The most similar warfare to cross LaC warfare would be a Kargil like conflict
What's the prepatory PLA has in the forthcoming conflict is my larger point ? How are you not factoring in PLA not goading PA to detect the weak underbelly of the IA & if the latter deploys drones the game is up for the battle plan is known . Why haven't you factored that in.
 

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What's the prepatory PLA has in the forthcoming conflict is my larger point ?
. I assume you mean “preparatory” or “preparation”. Well, for starters, they are modernizing at a far faster pace than us. Look at the strides on any military forum that some PLA units have made in just two years. Gear, equipment, is what hones tactics, and what wins wars.

But what the PLA has in gear it lacks in proper experience.
How are you not factoring in PLA not goading PA to detect the weak underbelly of the IA & if the latter deploys drones the game is up for the battle plan is known . Why haven't you factored that in.
Not sure what your point is sir.
 

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. I assume you mean “preparatory” or “preparation”. Well, for starters, they are modernizing at a far faster pace than us. Look at the strides on any military forum that some PLA units have made in just two years. Gear, equipment, is what hones tactics, and what wins wars.

But what the PLA has in gear it lacks in proper experience.

Not sure what your point is sir.
Well , take your own time to think on this lad . No hurry. When you do come to a conclusion which you think is right , all things & angles considered with no escape hatches , don't blurt it out like you would as if high as a kite but camouflage it like you would when you fart in a public gathering.
 

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The most logical counter to this is to use proxies to impose casualties on them in KPK. Especially officers. A Colonel for a Colonel. A major for a major.

Meanwhile within Kashmir itself, they need to really rethink their entire encounter strategy.
Secondly it's time to move on to the next gen of monitoring equipment, like foliage penetrating thermals and radars, motion sensors dispersed at various infiltration routes, and improved SIGINT for activities across the LOC. The current monitoring equipment on the LOC was state of the art 10 years ago, but there's new stuff on the market which should be added.
 

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Tral Operation: 27 Jan 2015 By Jan 2015, Col Rai had completed nearly one and half years as commanding officer of 42 RR, which was responsible for counter-insurgency operations in Tral sector in Pulwama district of J & K. Tral had been a hotbed of militancy as it provided suitable terrain for militants to operate. On 27 Jan 2015, the unit had received credible information about the presence of terrorists in the village under its area of operations control. After analyzing the situation a decision was taken by the security forces to launch a joint operation by the Army, CRPF, and the police.​

The suspected militants were hiding in a house which was soon surrounded by the security forces. On being challenged the militants started firing and a fierce gun battle ensued. At this point, reportedly, the father and brother of one of the terrorists informed the assault team that the ultras would surrender. Colonel Rai displayed good leadership and followed the Army doctrine of WHAM(Winning Hearts and Minds) and decided to give the militants an opportunity to surrender. The militants, however, took advantage of this act of compassion and started firing in order to escape. The forces soon cornered the militants after a while and gunned down the two militants. But during the heavy exchange of fire, Colonel M N Rai got severely injured and later succumbed to his injuries.​

Colonel M N Rai was martyred in the operation, but the exemplary courage and leadership skills displayed by Colonel Rai would always be remembered.​
Colonel M N Rai is survived by his wife Priyanka, daughters Alka & Richa and son Aditya. At the funeral of Colonel M N Rai, his 11 years old daughter Alka made his regiment and the entire nation proud by bidding her father a farewell with the Gurkha regiment’s war cry, “Ayo Gorkhali” meaning ” The Gorkhas are here”.​

Source: Honourpoint​

What did we achieve with the above sacrifice over nailing goat shaggers?​



Never saw Col Rai's daughter complain or behave like Gurmehar Kaur.

Keta 9GR ke ... hoi ke hoi na...ho ho ho ..
 
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Stop being dramatic. IA has conducted some of the most daunting military operations in the history of modern armed forces. If you think this was bad, you have no idea how the 90s in Kashmir were.

It's a setback no doubt, but the army will go on a hunting spree now.



Would it kill DRDO to develop the MALE and HALE UAVs any faster :mad2: ?!
Generations have changed. Conditions have improved. Quality of life has increased. Now people’s expectations are different. Reality maybe different but perceptions matter. VOA, BBC, even ISPR all do propaganda. Why? To manage their citizens’ expectations.
If BJP does not manage national security expectations properly, it will lose vote share. All it takes is for the opposition to get an ex Army general to say on TV IA messed up and BJP is not bothered about it.
 

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The most logical counter to this is to use proxies to impose casualties on them in KPK. Especially officers. A Colonel for a Colonel. A major for a major.

Meanwhile within Kashmir itself, they need to really rethink their entire encounter strategy.
Ahmm ahmm.. what's BLA doing then. 27 dead. Swiggy insta revenge served.
 

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