India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

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Good. Next step should be to enforce demographic change under the radar surreptitiously without English media getting wind of it....


Official acknowledgement of CFVs and infiltration attempts. Now Pakistan should not cry if we take pre-emptive actions and roast the whole Neelum valley.
Grow up brah...do you really expect the current govt. to do it ? Even I used to think so after Uri revenge strike and pulwama revenge balakot strike that such actions will become the norm, but what do we have ? Ceasefire ! Am done suffering from KLPD.
Both the govt & IA seem to be content playing round and round the mulberry bush with their counterparts in Lahore and Karachi, no one wants to disturb the status quo and impose a heavy cost on porkies for even one terror action. I am pretty sure there is some deal with them to keep actions within some threshold (possibly concluded under CONgress) and no one now has the guts or bollocks to change it and think out of the box. If a few jawans die who cares ! Shame on us !
 

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Good. Next step should be to enforce demographic change under the radar surreptitiously without English media getting wind of it....


Grow up brah...do you really expect the current govt. to do it ? Even I used to think so after Uri revenge strike and pulwama revenge balakot strike that such actions will become the norm, but what do we have ? Ceasefire ! Am done suffering from KLPD.
Both the govt & IA seem to be content playing round and round the mulberry bush with their counterparts in Lahore and Karachi, no one wants to disturb the status quo and impose a heavy cost on porkies for even one terror action. I am pretty sure there is some deal with them to keep actions within some threshold (possibly concluded under CONgress) and no one now has the guts or bollocks to change it and think out of the box. If a few jawans die who cares ! Shame on us !
If people like us were in power, Pakistan wouldn't exist in a decade.

And India wouldn't exist in 2.

I'm sure there's a lot of faults in the leadership, but I'm also sure their restraint regarding these things isn't unfounded.
Let's also remember not everything comes out to the public.

Pakistan is in a downward spiral.
Let's not give them a reason to make any radical changes and prevent/delay their inevitable demise.

At this point, I'm pretty sure a war with India will rejuvenate their economy rather than breaking it.

These are but the last sparks of a dying ember.
While the death of a single soldier is one too many, it's also true that going kinetic at the slightest hint of belligerence is unrealistic and infeasible.

The best thing right now, in my uninformed opinion, is trying our level best to push Pakistan into the FATF blacklist. Economic and cyber warfare rather than kinetic attacks.
Soldiers killing soldiers is raw and satiates our bloodlust but it's not a practical way to dismantle the terror state. One man is nothing. They can spare a lot more. Even a thousand men is not that big of a blow (something they're probably losing every three months to insurgents anyways). Let me draw a comparison to give you some perspective.
Indian Army claimed approximately a thousand Pakistanis died in the Kargil War. I believe them fully because they don't lie and it also stands around the US estimate of 700.

Pakistanis are now losing nearly the same amount of men every few months to homegrown insurgent groups and they're still not perturbed.
Life is cheap for both Pakistan and India. Killing a few men won't achieve anything.

What hits hardest is when a terror attack causes MNCs to feel insecure. When a port isn't considered safe for shipment. When Chinese engineers die to shrapnel. When outskirts of the economic capital are laden with IEDs.

All of these are happening and will only increase in the future.


Again, thank the gods we're not in any leadership position because we would've run India into the ground.
Pakistanis are a much weaker threat than the internal enemies inside India tbh.


I fully support airstrikes by jangi Rafaal jahaaj on enemy positions in Malluland, Bhaiyaland and Pajeetistan.🥴
 

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If people like us were in power, Pakistan wouldn't exist in a decade.

And India wouldn't exist in 2.

I'm sure there's a lot of faults in the leadership, but I'm also sure their restraint regarding these things isn't unfounded.
Let's also remember not everything comes out to the public.

Pakistan is in a downward spiral.
Let's not give them a reason to make any radical changes and prevent/delay their inevitable demise.

At this point, I'm pretty sure a war with India will rejuvenate their economy rather than breaking it.

These are but the last sparks of a dying ember.
While the death of a single soldier is one too many, it's also true that going kinetic at the slightest hint of belligerence is unrealistic and infeasible.

The best thing right now, in my uninformed opinion, is trying our level best to push Pakistan into the FATF blacklist. Economic and cyber warfare rather than kinetic attacks.
Soldiers killing soldiers is raw and satiates our bloodlust but it's not a practical way to dismantle the terror state. One man is nothing. They can spare a lot more. Even a thousand men is not that big of a blow (something they're probably losing every three months to insurgents anyways). Let me draw a comparison to give you some perspective.
Indian Army claimed approximately a thousand Pakistanis died in the Kargil War. I believe them fully because they don't lie and it also stands around the US estimate of 700.

Pakistanis are now losing nearly the same amount of men every few months to homegrown insurgent groups and they're still not perturbed.
Life is cheap for both Pakistan and India. Killing a few men won't achieve anything.

What hits hardest is when a terror attack causes MNCs to feel insecure. When a port isn't considered safe for shipment. When Chinese engineers die to shrapnel. When outskirts of the economic capital are laden with IEDs.

All of these are happening and will only increase in the future.


Again, thank the gods we're not in any leadership position because we would've run India into the ground.
Pakistanis are a much weaker threat than the internal enemies inside India tbh.


I fully support airstrikes by jangi Rafaal jahaaj on enemy positions in Malluland, Bhaiyaland and Pajeetistan.🥴
I didn't say full scale war did I ? War should indeed be avoided at all costs.
"Thinking out of the box" etc...take a leaf out of chinka land and do salami slicing...
 

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Can I get a source bcs this looks sus
It's a post from telegram channel of gaurav pradhan.
News and analysis the channel shares are authentic
If someone wants a in depth sight of indian politics person must follow this channel
Yesterday 6 porki soldiers were killed and that post was captured by TTP and these soldiers were captured
 

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Seems legit

If this actually happened then ISPR might have blocked the spread of these pics. Still these are there, some where I feel ISPR wanted the pics to be seen by the pasthun victims of Pakistani terror.

what is the game plan here?

Insert some of the Pakistani soldiers as ttp and claim pakistan is going for peace talks and then impose sharia to take care of pasthun decent. Shari is a counter to Pasthun nationalism.

I think some anger management from Pakistani propaganda side is going o

the terror intent, radical thought and terror factories are intact.

I doubt the real ttp will come to talks, reason why they are mentioning some factions want talks.

Pashtuns feel ttp is the counter to Pakistani army attocities on their common populace.
 

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