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"I Can say on the behalf of every Israeli that we love India...Its a sort of consensus here in Israel that we India are huge friends" - Naftali Bennett, PM of Israel said to Foriegn Minister S. Jaishankar who is on his Israel visit.
Israeli businesses stand to gain a lot by the FTA. While the small Israeli market will be flooded with our commodity exports, Israeli companies will get a bonanza of investing in our states. Most of India's exports to Israel would anyway not be competing with their local manufacturers since our stuff is pretty unique to them and therefore will not disrupt the incomes of local businessmen. If anything, Israelis will get a better value for money compared to several expensive products that they import from Europe. While China already dominates their imports for commoditized products, a little competition will allow them to strategically diversify their sources.

Coming to Israeli investments and scaling projects in India, I personally see a massive benefit in setting up urban vertical farming corporations for more water-efficient farming while the pharmaceutical R&D is an ocean waiting to be explored; but most important would be Israeli nanotechnology. Nanotech is of great relevance to all our emerging technologies in defence as well as civilian industries. From miniaturizing sensors, to nano drones that can hunt/kill terrorists inside a room without being detected, we can seriously push for massive collaboration with them.

Just hope that the babus in Commerce ministry are a fraction as passionate as Dr. Jaishankar or PM Modi ji.
 

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Israel, India to build 10-year defense cooperation plan

Israel and India have agreed to form a task force that will build a 10-year cooperation plan to identify new areas in defense cooperation between the two countries. The plan, which will include defense procurement, production, and research and development, was agreed upon last week during a visit last week by Ajay Kumar, the director-general of the Indian ministry of defense.
Kumar met with his Israeli counterpart, director-general of the defense ministry Maj.-Gen. (ret.) Amir Eshel at the Kirya military headquarters in Tel Aviv for the 15th meeting of the Joint Working Group on defense cooperation.

According to The Times of India, during the meeting, the two officials discussed bilateral military-technological cooperation as well as strategic challenges in the Middle East and Indo-Pacific regions.

“The two sides reviewed the progress made in military-to-military engagements, including exercises and industry cooperation,” an Indian official was quoted by the report, adding that “it was also decided to form a new sub-working group on defense industry cooperation.” India recently participated in the Blue Flag international air drill, sending for the first time a Mirage fighter squadron to Israel. India also participated in Blue Flag 2017. Israel has been supplying India with various weapons systems, missiles, and unmanned aerial vehicles over the last few years, making India one of Israel’s largest buyers of military hardware.

A 2020 report by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute found that Israel’s arms exports over the past four years have been the highest ever and accounted for three percent of the global total.
The Jewish state was found to be the world’s eighth-largest arms supplier and its arms exports were 77% higher than between 2010 to 2014. According to the report, the top three customers of Israeli arms were India (45% of the total amount), Azerbaijan (17%), and Vietnam (8.5%). Weapons sales to India have consistently totaled over $1 billion per year.

In September, India purchased four Heron MK II from Israel Aerospace Industries in a deal worth some $200 million as part of the country’s plans to upgrade the military amid its ongoing border strife with China.
The Indian Air Force already operates more than 180 Israeli-made UAVs, including IAI-made Searchers and 68 unarmed Heron 1s, for surveillance and intelligence gathering, as well as a fleet of IAI-produced Harpy UAVs, which carry a high-explosive warhead and self-destructs to take out targets such as radar stations.

Last year the Indian cabinet approved an order of two Phalcon AWACs from Israel in a deal reportedly about $1b. that had been in the works for the past few years. Mounted on a Russian Ilyushin-76 heavy-lift aircraft the system has Active Electronic Steering Array (AESA), L-Band radar with 360° coverage and can detect and track incoming aircraft, cruise missiles, and drones before ground-based radars.

The first three Phalcon AWACS were obtained by the Indian Air Force in 2009 after a $1.1b. deal was signed between India, Israel, and Russia in 2004. The two countries have also signed contracts to manufacture and supply BARAK 8/MRSAM missile kits for the Indian Army and Air Force.

The MR-SAM system, jointly developed by India’s Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) in close collaboration with Israel's Israel Aircraft Industry, is a land-based configuration of the long-range surface-to-air missile (LRSAM) or Barak-8 naval air defense system. Able to shoot down enemy aircraft at a range of 50 to 70 km., it will help to protect India from enemy aircraft and will replace the country’s aging air defense systems.
 

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There’s a New Quad in Town: India, Israel, US, UAE

Even as one Quad finds its feet in the Indo-Pacific, a new quad is arriving in town. Late last month, foreign ministers from India, Israel, the United Arab Emirates, and the United States came together to form what they called an “international forum for economic cooperation.” In the aftermath of last year’s historic Abraham Accords between Israel and the UAE, facilitated by the U.S., the forum was a natural progression for three of its four participants. The odd inclusion was India.

For years, India has maintained an arm’s length from geopolitical alliances, particularly in fractious and volatile regions such as the Middle East. Its foreign policy has focused more on narrow bilateral transactions – building trade, wooing investment, and finding areas for mutual capacity-building with individual countries, rather than seeking to build multilateral alliances. It was an approach meant to help India navigate fissures in global geopolitics by sidestepping participation in warring blocs. But it also meant that India enjoyed little influence or presence in important geopolitical debates because it opted out of them.

In the aftermath of its bloody border clashes with China last year, much of this began to change: India first made an exception by reviving the Quad and trying to find common ground with other countries seeking to counterbalance China in the Indo-Pacific.

Now, by venturing into a potential alliance in the Middle East, New Delhi has made a rather unprecedented decision to find common cause with the U.S. and its bloc of allies more broadly outside the Indo-Pacific. In his brief comments at the virtual meet with counterparts from Israel, the U.S., and the UAE, India’s foreign minister Jaishankar said, “The three of you are among the closest relationships we have, if not the closest.”

Forging multilateral forums around the world is a wise proposition for India. It would help India insert itself more purposefully into regional dynamics outside its own neighborhood, cultivate allies who share common interests, and thereby give New Delhi the opportunity to expand its global influence.

Yet, so far, India has remained largely cautious in how it goes about this. In both the Indo-Pacific as well as the Middle East, it has pushed for collaboration on non-military fronts: trade, infrastructure, vaccines, and so on. In the wake of the pandemic, this strategy has shown great value – especially in the Indo-Pacific Quad, where India, Japan, Australia and the U.S. have managed to find a synergy between their comparative advantages, to work on delivering vaccines rather than confronting China militarily.

But the Middle East will be a far trickier affair. While the Indo-Pacific has had robust non-military ties amongst its countries for decades, the Middle East is far more fractious and conflict-driven – flush with both lucrative oil wealth as well as militias fighting proxy wars.

In Southeast Asia, trade and investment ties have largely flourished between China and its neighbors for several years, despite long-standing disputes and differences. In the last 24 years, for instance, trade between China and Vietnam has grown at over 20 percent each year, despite bitter conflicts over the South China Sea.

But in the Middle East, ties break down routinely over geopolitics. Just this week, four Gulf states, including the UAE, pulled their diplomats out of Lebanon in yet another spiraling face-off, after a Lebanese minister criticized the Gulf’s intervention in Yemen. Troubles have long simmered between those countries, owing to the influence of the Iranian-backed Hezbollah in Lebanese politics. In the new grouping that India is now a part of, all three of its partners have prominent rivalries with Iran. Indeed, the Abraham Accords themselves – which have allowed for this grouping to come together – was driven by common interests between Israel and the UAE in counterbalancing Iran.

If India hopes to cultivate meaningful alliances and garner support from partners in the Middle East, particularly on its energy and security interests, it cannot afford to opt-out of these rifts forever. In particular, its strategic cooperation with Iran will increasingly come under the scanner from its new partners in the Middle East. For years, the U.S. has sought to integrate India more fully into its system of geopolitical alliances around the world. Under President Joe Biden, Washington has expressed a greater keenness to build coherent alliances in order to take on adversaries around the world – whether China, Russia or Iran.

As New Delhi enters that network in new places, it faces a trade-off. Finding common ground with allies on geopolitics will help India garner support from these countries for its own interests. But that also means that it might be forced to get off the fence on crucial and sensitive geopolitical debates.
 

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MeghUpdates🚨™ (@MeghBulletin) Tweeted:
India is one of World’s Largest Economies with Vast Digital Expertise and Great People; When both our countries come together amazing things happen: Israel PM Bennett https://t.co/SNidvErTtb

Bennet is a businessman; he knows the benefits of a country like us when he sees one. Hoping that our Indians are not foolish enough to go for NOTA in 2024 (I pray that we choose BJP again under PM Modi Ji), we can do great things by tying up with Israel in the long-term.
 

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Significant: Visiting Israeli Defence minister Benny Gantz pays respects to India Army's Lieutenant General J.F.R. Jacob at his grave. He played a key role in Bangladesh war of liberation. One of the most influential military leaders of India, J.F.R. Jacob was a Jew.

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‘Please post the full article….
From UAVs to refuellers: How Israel is helping India keep an eye on LAC
He has accompanied Indian troops on their battle readiness exercises, sat at the table with defence ministers, addressed chief ministers of five states on the use of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) to gather intelligence about Naxals, and once even joined the Andhra Pradesh police out on a mission. Ever since the Galwan incident of 2020, he has been keeping a close watch on the Sino-Indian boundary.

These days, Avi Bleser, vice-president of marketing for India at Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI), says he is working closely with the Indian Army and Indian Air Force to tailor solutions for their defence needs.
This includes the induction of Heron MK II, a state-of-the-art UAV that can fly at a height of 35,000 feet, cover a radius of 1000 km, see through dense clouds, work in bad weather and fly for 45 hours. It’s learnt that MK IIs are being deployed in Leh.


Last year, the Indian Army had also taken on lease Heron TPs, a Medium Altitude Long Endurance (MALE) Unmanned Aerial System (UAS) for all-weather missions, from IAI. Heron TP drones are one of the two drones made in Israel that can be armed, if needed.
Bleser traces his relationship with India to 1991 when he first met an Indian delegation at the Singapore air show. “I was travelling on a European passport, they invited me to South Block. It is after four years that the Ministry of Defence signed an agreement with the IAI to provide two search systems.”

The relationship has evolved over time – from being an importer of IsraeIi tech and equipment, Indian companies are now collaborating with IAI on a variety of ventures.
The IAI and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) have signed a joint venture whereby IAI will not only offer UAVs to India, but also help HAL in manufacturing them in India.
In 2018, the Adanis joined hands with Isareli company Elbit Systems to inaugurate a facility for manufacturing the Hermes 900 UAV in Hyderabad.

Earlier, after Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to Israel in 2017, the IAI had signed an agreement with Elcom Systems and Dynamatic Technologies for the manufacture of UAVs in India
Earlier this year, HAL signed a memorandum of understanding with IAI to convert civil passenger aircraft into a multi-mission tanker transport (MMTT) for air refuelling with cargo and transport capabilities. The MoU also covers conversion of passenger planes into freighter aircraft.
The IAI is a world leader in this field, says Noam Sharoni, director of the Boeing 767 conversions at IAI, as he shows aircraft aged 17 years and above that are given a new lease of life at the IAI headquarters in Tel Aviv.

“We have converted a record 283 passenger aircraft into freighters,’’ he says, adding how the electric wires for the project are sourced from a Bengaluru-based company called SASMOS HET Technologies Ltd.

The high-security IAI compound is manned by a staff of over 15,000 – 10,000 of whom are engineers and scientists. The gigantic, squeaky clean hangars are their labs. And the IAI tagline — Where courage meets technology – stares at you from the walls as men, many dressed in black T-shirts, attend to aircraft and UAVs, big and small.
Bleser, who was part of the team that developed Scout, Israel’s first eye-in-the-sky after the 1973 Yom Kippur War, has seen technology evolve rapidly over the last 40-plus years. He recalls how it was after this war in which Israel defeated a coalition of Arab states led by Egypt and Syria but suffered heavy casualties, including 102 aircraft, that the Israeli defence ministry asked IAI to develop an “eye-in-the-sky” that could function round the clock. This led to the induction of Scout in 1979.

“Initially, Scout could track enemy movement only during the day. Our engineers installed the camera of a black-and-white TV on gyros for this unmanned vehicle. The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) were so happy with it that after 1000 flying hours, they only sought maintenance.’’
UAVs have come a long way since then. The dainty Heron MK II, for instance, can climb at a speed of 800 feet per minute, providing real time information to all the ground stations which can use it to decide their course of action, says Bleser. Above all, it can listen to various devices and pinpoint the target, he says.
MK II can also be used for search and rescue operations. “It can carry under its wing a rubber dinghy which can be released for rescue missions.’’
Bleser says 70 percent of the flying hours in the defence sector are now being done by UAVs. “The world is looking for unmanned capability and solutions.’’


— (The reporter was in Israel at the invitation of the Embassy of Israel in New Delhi)
 

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Any idea about the status of the Tapas UAV built by DRDO. Or is it like everything else in DRDO lost in bureaucratic shuffle after the initial crash many years ago.
 

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Any idea about the status of the Tapas UAV built by DRDO. Or is it like everything else in DRDO lost in bureaucratic shuffle after the initial crash many years ago.
As per july report they are in the process of building six airframes,

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) will start working on producing six airframes to conduct evaluation trials of the TAPAS BH-201 drone, which will be used for missions by the armed forces. The airframe is the basic structure of the drone or unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) and includes its wings, tail and main body.

Once the airframes are ready, all these will be fitted on the UAV. TAPAS will have an operating altitude of 30,000 feet. It has a range of 250 km and is capable of day and night missions. It can carry payloads up to 350 kg. It is designed to perform intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance missions for the Indian Armed Forces. Its mission requirements are to provide continuous wide area coverage and be able to identify small targets. TAPAS BH-201 is India’s first MALE UAV,” sources in the DRDO said.


Sources in the HAL said 76 TAPAS drones will be inducted into the armed forces – Army (60), Air Force (12) and Navy (4). The project, conceptualised in 2016, is slated to get over in 2023.


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Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) will start working on producing six airframes to conduct evaluation trials of the TAPAS BH-201 drone, which will be used for missions by the armed forces. The airframe is the basic structure of the drone or unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) and includes its wings, tail and main body.

Once the airframes are ready, all these will be fitted on the UAV. TAPAS will have an operating altitude of 30,000 feet. It has a range of 250 km and is capable of day and night missions. It can carry payloads up to 350 kg. It is designed to perform intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance missions for the Indian Armed Forces. Its mission requirements are to provide continuous wide area coverage and be able to identify small targets. TAPAS BH-201 is India’s first MALE UAV,” sources in the DRDO said.


Sources in the HAL said 76 TAPAS drones will be inducted into the armed forces – Army (60), Air Force (12) and Navy (4). The project, conceptualised in 2016, is slated to get over in 2023.


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Do they have time schedule to do that or like any other government department, infinite time allowed.
 

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Do they have time schedule to do that or like any other government department, infinite time allowed.
They will remain under testing till the time the government babus can use UAV purchases as a foreign policy tool. This is why I sometimes feel that we need to do something aggressive on the borders - maybe burn a few Bangladeshi or Pakistani villages to the ground through artillery shelling.

This will result in restriction of military equipment sales to us and force our government to put all local projects on steroids.
 

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Not related to India but to Israel. Linked this here as there's no other suitable thread. Here a bunch of Evangelizing Christians seeking converts in Israel of all places. Among them is a person with East Asian features who's likely a South Korean where this cancer has gained roots & is now threatening to completely subsume Buddhism there. South Koreans now are among the most rabidly evangelical groups operating worldwide.
 

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