India-China Relations

[mattster]

Love is more powerful than hate..Chinese leadership is wise and doing to right thing to erase the dislike between India and China ..instigated by outside sources. These two ancient civilizations have tremendous potential to cooperate and respect each other showing the world that equality based partnership is possible between two big powers...don't have to always think in terms of who dominates who ? President Xi's Win-Win theory in action ! Modi is equally wise.

Gosh......whatever drug you are on must be awesome !

You may be a voracious reader of history, but you dont know jack about China or their culture or their mentality.
No amount of voracious reading will bring you any understanding of a people or its culture unless you live among them.

 

[Ray]

Love is more powerful than hate..Chinese leadership is wise and doing to right thing to erase the dislike between India and China ..instigated by outside sources. These two ancient civilizations have tremendous potential to cooperate and respect each other showing the world that equality based partnership is possible between two big powers...don't have to always think in terms of who dominates who ? President Xi's Win-Win theory in action ! Modi is equally wise.

Proverbs and words of endearment like love, are always platitudes until you have personally experienced the truth of them.

History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.

Remember Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai, 'Peaceful Rise' etc?


Let us heed Kamraj's advice - 'Paarkalam' (Let's see).

Or else, it might become be 'Parakalam' (let's fly) into oblivion.

I think that is what these Tamil words mean.

Peace and prosperity we must have, but not at all costs wherein we are dancing to other's tune.

Do show us how there has been equality based relationship with China?

 

[nrupatunga]

Rediff uvacha

What the three MoUs between India and China are about...: The three MoUs signed today are:

1. Sister province state relation between Guangdong and Gujarat state MoU signed by Gujarat Chief Secretary from Indian side.

2. Sister city relation between Guangzhou and Ahmedabad Municipal Corporation signed by Municipal Commissioner Thennarsan from Indian side.

3. MoU in industrial sector between China Development Bank Corporation and Indext-B( Industrial Extension Bureau) signed by Mamata Verma who heads Indext-B from the Indian side.

The third MoU in industrial sector is about extending support to Industrial park project in Gujarat.

Captains of Gujarat's top industrial and business groups, Chief Minister of the state and ministers were present during the MoU ceremony among others.

 

[roma]

i saw some of the video of Xi visiting the ashram in ahmedabad and i was disappointed with the way
it was organised.....there were all sorts of China security in view and even one in full uniform .

I have edit this upon seeing some other videos - i think my initial reaction above was a little over-done
although there is substance to it .The later videos shopwed that india had handled matters very well indeed.

It's just that particular scene which was rather unbalanced from the visual view-point.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

BBC News - Chinese President Xi Jinping begins India visit

 

[prohumanity]

Don,t focus on nitty-gritty of security forces look, dress etc. This event was in Gandhiji's Ashram...he believed in simplicity and unity of all human beings. The program was very impressive if you look at the feelings and the message it gave to the world. The leaders of two Giant nations behaving like friends and in harmony with each other. This is just the opposite of messages emanating from other parts of world..violence, bloodshed, wars and death everywhere. If Chinese and Indian people start this warm and friendly relationship...it will be extremely difficult for the "dividing powers " to
"divide and conquer" West has tried the aggression and intimidation policy and you see the entire middle east is burning. It has been a failed policy of putting hegemony above humanity. Let the East show "the warmongers and regime changers" that Nations can live in peace, have mutual respect and positive regard for each other. If you dust off your past prejudices and negative attitude and you will feel the vibes of human warmth coming thru these type of events. When 2.5 billion people will march together, no power will be able to stop them. Of Course, some people will not be happy to see this unity.

 

[CCP]

 

[ezsasa]

i saw some of the video of Xi visiting the ashram in ahmedabad and i was disappointed with the way
it was organised.....there were all sorts of China security in view and even one in full uniform .

Whose country is it ? Shouldn't Indian security be handling the event ? Should China Army uniform be walking around in such high protocol events ? And Indian army uniform was nowhere to be seen ? now perhaps we may say that the indian security were in plain clohtes but at least there should have been one or two Indian in uniform to balance off the one tall chinese officer in China army uniform who appeared outstanding becuase of the LACK of presence of INdian counterparts in their army uniform


So much for GOI understanding of protocol sensitivities ! ........seriously, disappointing !

Indeed if this is the way such an important event is organised is representative of the way business deals are going to be cut with China , then i think it is the beginning of the end for India -. china is goanna eat us up, IF it carries on this way ..

As far as our protocols go, we don't have a protocol of not accepting a protocol as long as their protocol does not conflict with our protocol.

 

[pmaitra]

Those lions look very real. Whoever made them, is a great sculptor.

 

[CCP]

Those lions look very real. Whoever made them, is a great sculptor.

Xi was trying to figure out what is those lions made of.

 

[Ray]

Xi was trying to figure out what is those lions made of.

He is watching it closely because he is thinking this could be sold to India from China.

What one cannot see is that some Chinese chap is madly clicking photos.

Let Russell Peter explain the Chinese (he also does the Indians).

 

[Ray]

i saw some of the video of Xi visiting the ashram in ahmedabad and i was disappointed with the way
it was organised.....there were all sorts of China security in view and even one in full uniform .

Whose country is it ? Shouldn't Indian security be handling the event ? Should China Army uniform be walking around in such high protocol events ? And Indian army uniform was nowhere to be seen ? now perhaps we may say that the indian security were in plain clohtes but at least there should have been one or two Indian in uniform to balance off the one tall chinese officer in China army uniform who appeared outstanding becuase of the LACK of presence of INdian counterparts in their army uniform


So much for GOI understanding of protocol sensitivities ! ........seriously, disappointing !

Indeed if this is the way such an important event is organised is representative of the way business deals are going to be cut with China , then i think it is the beginning of the end for India -. china is goanna eat us up, IF it carries on this way ..

Could the reason for China Security people being around is that they are running scared that they are not very popular in the outside world?

and we allow them to believe so?

 

[Ray]

It would have been excellent if Mrs Xi was wearing Hanfu ( 汉服) .

Hanfu ( 汉服) literally means Han clothing.

It looks so majestic and beautiful and much better than the western dress.

It would have gone down well with the Indians who appreciate traditions be maintained.

 

[Zebra]

Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping, holding umbrella watch a cultural performance as they walk on the Sabarmati River front in Ahmedabad on Wednesday. PTI Photo

Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping on a traditional swing at Sabarmati River Front in Ahmedabad on Wednesday. PTI Photo

 

[Zebra]

Chinese President Xi Jinping and his wife Peng Liyuan being presented a traditional bangle.....PTI Photo

Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Chinese President Xi Jinping and his wife Peng Liyuan on the Sabarmati River front in Ahmedabad on Wednesday | PTI Photo

Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping at Gandhi Ashram in Ahmedabad on Wednesday | PTI Photo

Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping look on as First Lady Peng Liyuan enjoys on a traditional swing....PTI Photo

Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Chinese President Xi Jinping and his wife Peng Liyuan.....PTI Photo

 

[tarunraju]

Pictures for Chinese netizens to repost:

Touchdown

PM introduced to China's First Lady

A quick lesson in Indian history by the PM to the Chinese first couple

Three agreements signed within the first 1 hour of Xi's landing

Innocent selfie by a Chinese delegate, or retinal scan by an int-op?

Xi shakes a leg with an Indian folk umbrella. He was dressed in an Indian handloom vest gifted by Modi. Xi was aptly dressed for the humid riverside evening. His security guard (guy in PLA uniform) was not. Poor fellow was seen throwing his hat at the airhostess in frustration, as he reembarked on the President's aircraft.

Xi in Sabarmati Ashram, an estate where Gandhi spent most of his productive time. He was garlanded by freshly woven cotton threads.

Live video showed Chinese security guards looking at each other in disbelief/surprise, as Xi did unusual things on Modi's request, such as sitting on cold granite flooring, hand-looming cotton thread using a Charak (apparatus used by Gandhi to loom cotton, a symbol of self-reliance).

 

[amoy]

Re: Indo-China Border Dispute

in spite of such bon homie cliche, diplomatic courtesy and hollow governmental MoU, enterpreneurs have to stay sober for savvy decisions. security aside, India is no rosegarden for foreign investors. multinationals are giving their testimonies- Carrefour is about to quit India, Vodafone is grumbling, and after so many years Ikea is contemplating entering India only now!

reportedly India even doesnt have an uniform tax rules throughout all states. only Gujarat is reported of a 24hr stable power supply except occasional outages. unthinkable to the world outside S. Asia isnt it?

all in all it takes much time for "red carpets" to be rolled out and red tapes to get away. Chinese businesses dont have to take the lead in experiments. anyway risk assessment should come first to avoid misadventures!

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[tarunraju]

Meanwhile...

 

[Free Karma]

Re: Indo-China Border Dispute

in spite of such bon homie cliche, diplomatic courtesy and hollow governmental MoU, enterpreneurs have to stay sober for savvy decisions. security aside, India is no rosegarden for foreign investors. multinationals are giving their testimonies- Carrefour is about to quit India, Vodafone is grumbling, and after so many years Ikea is contemplating entering India only now!

reportedly India even doesnt have an uniform tax rules throughout all states. only Gujarat is reported of a 24hr stable power supply except occasional outages. unthinkable to the world outside S. Asia isnt it?

all in all it takes much time for "red carpets" to be rolled out and red tapes to get away. Chinese businesses dont have to take the lead in experiments. anyway risk assessment should come first to avoid misadventures!

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Carrefour is a retail giant and that is an area where that the govt opposes foreign players( for now). Much like how foreign companies like facebook and twitter are not allowed in China. vodafone indulged in corrupt practices and got found out, and hence they are grumbling. what would you do in China about a corrupt company...let them go? They will grumble but they will not let go of the market Vodafone to open 1,150 stores in India in 12 months | Business Line

A lot of states have 24 hours power supply with short a outages. China has similar issues China's Power Outages Come Early and Often - Businessweek Unthinkable? ...I guess not

Anyway, you are free to invest if you want to, or not to, comes down to how much you want to be in the one of the biggest markets in the world. Or perhaps you can keep the cash lying idle and do nothing, or better, go ahead and invest in more awesome places like Pakistan.

 

[Bhadra]

i saw some of the video of Xi visiting the ashram in ahmedabad and i was disappointed with the way
it was organised.....there were all sorts of China security in view and even one in full uniform .

Whose country is it ? Shouldn't Indian security be handling the event ? Should China Army uniform be walking around in such high protocol events ? And Indian army uniform was nowhere to be seen ? now perhaps we may say that the indian security were in plain clohtes but at least there should have been one or two Indian in uniform to balance off the one tall chinese officer in China army uniform who appeared outstanding becuase of the LACK of presence of INdian counterparts in their army uniform


So much for GOI understanding of protocol sensitivities ! ........seriously, disappointing !

Indeed if this is the way such an important event is organised is representative of the way business deals are going to be cut with China , then i think it is the beginning of the end for India -. china is goanna eat us up, IF it carries on this way ..

Have you ever observed the US President visiting a Country and the entourage of plane full of security personnel accompanying or preceding the President. The Chinese arrangements would have been very simple, humble but effective. That is the difference.

Secondly, Army does not provide VIP security in India - it is below their dignity ( Just joking - it is not their job). VIP security is provided by policemen is plain clothes.

The security to be provided has to be effective rather than being seen.

The tall Chinese man in uniform must be military staff of Chinese embassy and these staff are meant to be seen in uniform around the dignitary.

The military in India is used only to present guard of honour at Presidents Palace in New Delhi. One of the Services representative may also be present only to receive the visiting dignitary at the airport. That is all.

Indian Army belongs to India but China belongs to PLA. That is the difference.

I hope that is appreciated.