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Since the confessions of the Pakistani terrorist and the Maoist terrorists, it has become public knowledge that the terrorists are from/supported by Pakistan/China. China has been pretending to be friendly with India, all the while stabbing it in the back. Therefore, India has only one course of action left: To do the same to China by supporting the separatist movements in Tibet/Xinjiang with weapons/money. Everyone knows that the majority of people in Xinjiang/Tibet don't want to be a part of China. They just don't have the weapons/money to carry out the independence movement. India should provide these, since China is already providing support to the terrorists in India. And India should also stop all business dealings with China until China stops supporting terrorists in India, and stops intruding into Indian territory.

Also, the more money and resources China has to spend on dealing with independence movements in Tibet and Xinjiang, the less they will have left over to wage war with India.
 

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Trade talks with Japan and China in January

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Negotiators will work on narrowing gaps in services and pharmaceutical sectors
NEW DELHI: Close on the heels of the visit of the Japan Prime Minister, Yukio Hatoyama to New Delhi and his talks with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, high-level officials from India and Japan are likely to meet in the second week of January to take forward negotiations on inking a Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement (CEPA).

Officials in the Commerce Ministry said here on Wednesday that negotiators would work on narrowing gaps in services and pharmaceuticals — areas of interest to India. However, Japan has several apprehensions about opening these sectors. The Indian pharmaceutical industry, which gets 45 per cent of its $20-billion revenue from exports, is seeking market access in Japan that has a tough control regime for drug imports. Japan is also apprehensive about giving access to Indian professionals in services, which contribute about 55 per cent to the Indian economy.

The talks for opening up of markets were launched in 2007 and officials on both sides have completed 12 rounds of talks.

Dr. Singh and Mr. Hatoyama had instructed their officials on Tuesday to sort out the issues in the way of the CEPA. According to Indian official figures, the two-way trade for 2008-09 stood at $10.6 billion, with imports accounting for $7.6 billion.

Comparatively, India-China trade stands at over $40.6 billion. India has signed market opening pacts with 10-member ASEAN bloc and Korea which will become operational from January 1.

Similarly, India will take up the widening trade deficit to over $20 billion with China when the Commerce Minister, Anand Sharma, visits Beijing on January 19. Mr. Sharma and his Chinese counterpart Chen Dimng will attend the meeting of the Joint Economic Group (JEG) where the issue of the large trade gap would be discussed. The Commerce Ministry had already expressed its concern over the increasing trade gap between India and China. India’s imports from China are over three times its exports to that country, according to the 2008-09 data.

In the JEG meeting, which is being convened after three years, India would also seek access for its fruits and vegetables in the Chinese market, the official said.

China, on its part, is likely to seek market economy status from India and may reiterate its concerns on India resorting to large number of anti-dumping cases against the neighbouring country.
 

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India, China Discuss Mutual Security Issues

India, China Discuss Mutual Security Issues

NEW DELHI - India and China have agreed to expand security cooperation following high-level defense talks in Beijing.

Indian Defence Secretary Pradeep Kumar met Jan. 6-7 with Ma Xiaotian, People's Liberation Army deputy chief of the General Staff, a senior Indian Defence Ministry official said.

It is the first time that an Indian Defence Ministry official with the rank of a permanent secretary has traveled to China for defense cooperation talks, a Defence Ministry source said. Discussions included "very sensitive" issues, the source said - an apparent reference to India's concern over the Chinese military buildup, particularly in naval assets, and a boundary dispute in which China claims 92,000 square kilometers of what is now Indian territory. This represents the longest contested boundary in the world.

The border between India and China is currently defined by a 4,056-kilometer Line of Actual Control (LAC), which is marked neither on the ground nor on mutually accepted maps. Efforts since the 1980s to establish a recognized LAC have made little headway.

India and China held joint anti-terror exercises in October 2007 in the mountainous Chengdu Military region of the northeast. India and China signed a memorandum in 2006 to conduct joint military exercises in the fields of "search and rescue, anti-piracy, counterterrorism and other areas of mutual interest."

New Delhi has shown concern over China's increased defense spending.

The Indian Defence Ministry's annual report issued in early July says China's military modernization needs to be "monitored carefully" for implications on India's defense and security.

India, China Discuss Mutual Security Issues - Defense News
 

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How Nepal sums up the India-China story
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India or China? Guessing which country is most likely to become the economic powerhouse of the twenty-first century is all the rage these days. Most answers rely on hard facts like GDP, trade statistics or demographics, but we can make as good a guess as any if we ask the Nepalese.

India’s predicament in Nepal illustrates some of the dynamics that will determine the outcome of the competition between India and China. While India was pushed aside and ceased its military aid after King Gyanendra’s palace coup in 2005, the Chinese have moved in to offer military aid and training and have pledged to build a domestic rail network with links through Lhasa to China, Central Asia and Pakistan. In doing so, China offers Nepal the ability to reduce its dependence on India, and to play a more complex version of the India-China game.

India’s counter-diplomacy has come off looking distinctively reactive. It has belatedly offered to resume military assistance and looks set to build rail links into the country (although not a domestic rail network). Indian pressure failed to scupper the Maoist government’s proposal to stop recruitment into the Indian army. Instead, it took popular pressure from Gurkhas dependent on Indian salaries and pensions to change Kath-mandu’s mind.

Nepal’s case illustrates the reality of a larger issue in India-China relations: India’s failure to consolidate and hold the sphere of influence in the Himalayas, Afghanistan and the Gulf that it was bequeathed by the British in 1947. This happened alongside the loss of networks of influence sustained by the policemen, soldiers, labourers and merchants that India had exported to Burma, Ceylon, Malaya, Singapore, Hong Kong and East Africa.

Some of this influence could never have been preserved in a post-imperial world. But the consequences of Nehru’s optimistic timidity over Tibet and the country’s myopic view of Afghanistan and the Gulf were disastrous: India threw away its influence and leverage in a surprisingly short span of time. China got Tibet; Pakistan took up the space left by India in Afghanistan and the Gulf. India only managed to hold on in Sikkim, Bhutan and Nepal. India even failed to leverage its crucial role in preserving Tibetan culture in the face of China’s determined campaigns to destroy it in the homeland. India’s record with its own diaspora was equally dispiriting: the idea of nationhood created in the 1950s had no space for overseas Indians, and India’s star faded in Burma, Africa and Southeast Asia.

China, as we know, behaved differently. Its links with the diaspora in Southeast Asia remained strong, which led to massive inflows of capital after China began to open up after 1978. Its current round of infrastructure building, aid and investment in Africa, Southeast Asia and even South Asia have outpaced anything that India could aspire to. China clearly has the upper hand.

So, what should India’s next move be? Once again, Nepal may hold an answer. India cannot compete with the generosity of China’s infrastructure spending or the elegance of its solution to Nepal’s dependence on India. But Gurkhas’ desire to keep up their ties with India points to the possibility that cultural ties—and the benefits that come with them— may sometimes trump the politics of infrastructure and promised future development.

Here, too, India has lagged behind. China has set up more than 500 Confucius Institutes and Confucius Classrooms to spread the Chinese language in nearly 90 countries. Despite initial suspicions in some countries about the regime’s intentions, the institutes and classrooms work as freestanding entities run by host institutions. India, in contrast, has set up nine cultural centres associated closely with its diplomatic missions in Asian countries and hopes to set up six more in short order.

India may never match the scale of China’s cultural diplomacy. But it has a legacy of cultural capital that cries out to be deployed in the service of Indian ‘soft power’. For centuries, India sat at the centre of a commercial and cultural ‘Indosphere’ that saw Indian commerce spread to places as diverse as Mombasa, Aden, Baku, Kabul and Malacca; Indian religions, rituals and ideas moulded local belief and practice in Mongolia, Japan, Tibet, China, Bali and Afghanistan. Mughal India produced some of the best writing in a Persian literary sphere that bound together elites from Istanbul to Burma, and India was the heart of Persian-language publishing until the turn of the 20th century. But India has done very little to cultivate, deepen and leverage these associations—so much so that it fell to the government of Iran to spearhead efforts to document, preserve and disseminate India’s Persian heritage.

India missed a chance at a unique and lasting cultural diplomacy with Iran and Central Asia that would have gone beyond well-trodden paths of newspaper libraries, yoga and Hindi. It may yet suffer the same fate in Southeast Asia: after 1979, a security-led agenda effectively ended long-standing educational ties that brought large numbers of Muslim students from Malaysia and Indonesia to pursue Islamic higher education in Deoband and Lucknow. Most of them went on to study in Pakistan.

India lost a significant amount of cultural capital as one of the world’s major Muslim countries and a major centre for moderate Islamic education—and a chance to prevent the spread of radical ideas to Southeast Asia and elsewhere.

India may not be able to outflank China with railways, munitions or even Hindi. But a truly smart cultural diplomacy could deepen the lasting ties that would allow it to stay in the game—and sometimes even to win. Just ask the Nepalese.

The author has taught Indian history at Oxford and Cambridge Universities
 

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Détente with China rests on thin ice

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Tuesday, January 5, 2010 22:47 IST


It’s easy to tell that India’s relations with China appear, for the moment at least, to be on an even keel: we haven’t seen Chinese border patrol drop in uninvited for tea or to spray-paint graffiti on our Himalayan rocks. Our television anchors aren’t discussing war strategies in their customary shrill, denunciatory tones on their prime-time shows.

Hell, we haven’t come across even a single invocation of that overused ‘crouching tiger, pouncing dragon’ metaphor in our newspapers in the past month. For now, all appears quiet on our eastern front, and it’s a fair bet that the collective sighs of relief from our foreign policy mandarins in South Block can be heard all the way in Arunachal Pradesh — which, by the way, China claims as its own.

This Sino-Indian détente was, of course, fashioned at the Copenhagen climate change conference last month, where both countries teamed up to ensure a stalemate that would protect their cynical right to pollute as much as the developed world. But although this momentary coming together of the two Asian giants may give the appearance of having changed the overall climate of relations between them, the diplomatic détente rests on decidedly infirm foundations.

On other matters of strategic significance to both of them, China and India have very little congruence of interests; and unless the current state of play, characterised by an absence of hostilities and hectoring, can be cemented with some tangible forward movement on the many areas on which they have deep-rooted discords, the mood of the moment may prove fleeting.

The year ahead, during which China will likely seek continued Indian support at the climate change negotiations, opens one window of opportunity for continued cooperation, perhaps even generation of bilateral goodwill. But at other platforms — for instance, at the NPT review conference in New York in May — that same solidarity will be hard to summon up, particularly if under the influence of an actively non-proliferationist Obama, and as the sub-plot of the West’s nuclear standoff with Iran, India comes under renewed pressure to sign the NPT and the CTBT.

On other counts too, there is the risk that mere reliance on bilateral bhai-bhai bonhomie may be an inadequate buffer against the tide of contemporaneous events that acquire a momentum of their own — for instance, an unrest in Tibet. 2010 also promises to be a year in which the lingering effects of the global economic crisis will play out, raising the prospects of trade frictions between countries. In that event, China, as the country with perhaps the most to lose from a slowdown in global trade, will likely respond with more of the same political muscle-flexing that we’ve seen in recent weeks.

One particular border incident last week is illustrative: it involved Chinese law enforcement officials in Shenzhen in southern China and human rights activists in Hong Kong, which is notionally Chinese territory, but which enjoys special status under the ‘one country, two systems’ formulation. The activists were rallying in defence of human rights in China, but although they were on the Hong Kong side of the immigration control point (where their rights were protected), plain-clothes Chinese police from across the border darted in and dragged activists and journalists back into China. It was as egregious a ‘border incursion’ as any that India experienced last year.

Additionally, the mere absence of open Sino-Indian hostilities is no reason for India to lower its guard. China still controversially issues stapled visas to Kashmiris, but since they’re routed through Hong Kong, they remain off the radar of Indian immigration officials.

All this is not to say that India shouldn’t be smoking the peace pipe with China, only that it should be alert that the heat that it generates doesn’t melt away the layer of thin ice on which the diplomatic détente of the moment rests.

Détente with China rests on thin ice - dnaindia.com
 

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IBNLive : Pawan Bali's Blog : Enter the dragon, and it spits fire

Every time there is an argument on India's tricky neighbourhood, my vote goes out to China. It is our more formidable neighbour. But somehow we are so pulled into our Pakistani obsession, that a quiet threat brewing on the Indian borders is always ignored. Or may be we are a bit shy, scared or relatively indifferent towards the dragon.


As our Republic turns 60, China has instructed its media to be polite towards the Indian side. For our part, at least we can re-look the Chinese threat all over again.


Locals in Ladakh have for years been complaining of China's aggression, verbal at times, and sometimes, even physical. The threats have been consistent since December, 2008.


In Ladakh's Dokbug area, the locals had complained of regular Chinese threats and even assaults by the People's Liberation Army.



Now, Dokbug and Skakjung in Ladakh, which border with Tibet, are favoured winter pastures. An area of 60 kms north of Indus, where grazing is prohibited during summers, and the grass is preserved for the winters. The nomads, who were using the pastures, were threatened by the Chinese army, their pitched tents removed and firewood burnt. And the latest, the road workers in Demchok were verbally threatened by their Army, and the construction work was stopped.


The locals in Ladakh say that similar tactics were used by the Chinese in the past to grab portions of Indian territory in the region. Till 1984, Indian had claims over the Nang Tsang area, which is opposite Phukste air field. Now, it's in Chinese territory.


The Nagking area was again under Indian occupation till 1991, and now is on the other side. Similar claim was laid over Langma Serding area, which was a part of Indian territory till 1992.



The Chinese are gaining by inches, yards, and even kilometers every time. And we are on a backfoot. Already, over 36,000 square kms area in Aksai Chin has been conceded to Chinese side after the 1962 war. The war had then started when the Indian side discovered China's road in Aksai Chin. The dragon is making the same moves all over again and India should be prepared for any eventuality.


The Chinese have consistently egged the Indian side. First, they opposed Prime Minister's visit to Arunachal, then they fretted over Dalai Lala's visit. They have issued visas to Kashmir residents on separate piece of paper (in fact residents of Jammu were issued visa on their passports and from Kashmir, on a separate paper).


In June 2009, when I was in Ladakh , many senior Army officers were quite clear that Kargil war was not the last mountain battle. Many of them are expecting that the next time, if it ever happens, the enemy will be China and not Pakistan.


Both the nations are growing fast and on a faster pace, fighting for the common resources. And if China feels, it can shove and shrug its way ahead, it could as well be right. And if India feels, that politely opening the doors for our neighbours' is the way ahead, it could be time for some serious rethink.
 

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India has lost 'substantial' land to China: Official report

India has lost 'substantial' land to China: Official report

Updated on Sunday, January 10, 2010, 15:52 IST



New Delhi: The area along the Line of Actual Control with China has "shrunk" over a period of time and India has lost "substantial" amount of land in the last two decades, says an official report.

At a recent meeting held in Leh which was attended by officials from the Jammu and Kashmir government, Ministry of Home Affairs and Army, it was agreed that there was difference in the maps of various agencies and that there was lack of proper mapping of the area.

The meeting was chaired by Commissioner (Leh) AK Sahu and attended among others by Brigadier General Staff of 14 Corps Brig Sarat Chand and Colonel Inderjit Singh.

While the absence of proper map was agreed upon, the meeting all the same felt, "however, it is clear and be accepted that we are withdrawing from LAC and our area has shrunk over a period of time".

"Though this process if very slow but we have lost substantial amount of land in 20-25 years," it was said at the meeting held last month.

According to the minutes of the meeting, it was also identified that "there is a lack of institutional memory in various agencies as well as clear policy on this issue which in long run has resulted in loss of territory by the India in favour of China".

The meeting was called to ensure proper protection to nomads who move with their cattle to Dokbug area of Nyoma sector during the winter months every year. In December 2008, Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) had damaged their tents and threatened them to vacate the land.

"They (Chinese) have threatened the nomadic people who had been using Dokbug area (in Ladakh sector) area for grazing since decades long, in a way to snatch our land in inches. A Chinese proverb is famous in the world – “better do in inches than in yards," a report filed by former Sub Divisional Magistrate (Nyoma) Tsering Norboo had said.

Norboo was deputed by the state government to probe complaints of incursion of the Chinese Army in Dokbug area and threats to the local shepherds to leave the land as it belonged to them. The area has been used by the shepherds to graze their livestock as the area is warmer compared to other parts of Ladakh.

The SDM contended that it was another attempt by the Chinese to claim the territory as disputed in the same fashion as they had taken Nag Tsang area opposite to Phuktse airfield in 1984, Nakung in 1991 and Lungma-Serding in 1992.

The area of Dokbug and Doley Tango was frequented by shepherds and nomads from December to March every year during which their young lambs were capable to walk.

The SDM has also highlighted the fact that Army stopped these nomads from vacating the land. The nomads were terrified by the Chinese threats.

Last year, Chinese troops had entered nearly 1.5 km into the Indian territory on July 31 near Mount Gya, recognised as international border by India and China, and painted boulders and rocks with "China" and "Chin9" in red spray paint.

The 22,420 ft Mount Gya, also known as "fair princess of snow" by Army, is located at the tri-junction of Ladakh in Jammu and Kashmir, Spiti in Himachal Pradesh, and Tibet. Its boundary was marked during the British era and regarded as International border by the two countries.

Before this, Chinese helicopters had violated Indian air space on June 21 along the Line of Actual Control in Chumar region and also helli-dropped some expired food.

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India has lost `substantial` land to China: Official report
 

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Just shows how weak and pathetic the goi is,can't see the point of having a million man army if you don't allow them to protect your borders. Where there is doubt of the lac they should just maintain the status quo until its resolved to the satisfaction of both sides.If this can't be done ,then get more troops up there to stop the chinese taking the piss.
 

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Just shows how weak and pathetic the goi is,can't see the point of having a million man army if you don't allow them to protect your borders.
exactly. what baffles people more is when foreign ministry and PMO all down play the whole thing. loss of land is shocking!!

Where there is doubt of the lac they should just maintain the status quo until its resolved to the satisfaction of both sides.
chinese have not left anyone in doubt about their intentions!! it is our GOI who seems to be down playing and holding back real info fearing public hue and cry.

If this can't be done ,then get more troops up there to stop the chinese taking the piss.
GOI seems to have woken up from deep slumber. they are trying to do something now in terms of road infrastructure, re opening air strips, putting su 30 mki's in the eastern sphere etc..

too late in the day.
 

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loosing of ground

there is saying in chinese that an u must progress inch-by-inch instead of kms/miles.chinese are taking it very seriously.while foolish indian gov`i represntive who work from 11 to 4 while he should be working from 9 to 5 are sleeping as they see that only few inches of land is lost while they don`t see that in long run when this inches would get converted into kms/miles.

atlest goi must give administration of our disputed border area to army specially department dealing with maps they will do better and our babu logs

and i don`t understand gov strategy why they don`t take people of india into confidence .the must tell what is truth .instead this people are hiding the facts:thumbs_thmbdn:
the Chinese army is terroring the local people there as i had read in newspaper:rocket:
 

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India loses 'substantial land' in 20-25 years along LAC to China

India loses 'substantial land' in 20-25 years along LAC to China

11 Jan 2010, 0558 hrs IST, ET


NEW DELHI: Government officials may have so far denied claims of violations committed by China across its borders with India, but it has been
confirmed now that the latter has lost “substantial” amount of land along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in the last two decades to Beijing.

At a recent government meeting attended by officials from the Jammu and Kashmir government, union ministry of home affairs and the Army, there was consensus that there was difference in the maps of various agencies of the LAC and that there was a lack of proper mapping of the area, said an agency report.

The report said officials at the meeting agreed that India is “withdrawing from LAC” and that though the process was slow, the country, it was pointed out, “had lost substantial amount of land in 20-25 years” to China.

According to the minutes of the meeting held in December, “there is a lack of institutional memory in various agencies as well as clear policy on this issue which in the long run has resulted in loss of territory by India in favour of China”.

The meeting was convened to discuss protection for nomads who were having problems with the Chinese People’s Liberation Army. The nomads, who move with their cattle to Dokbug area of Nyoma sector during the winter months every year, were threatened by the PLA, which damaged their tents and asked them to vacate the land.

“They (Chinese) have threatened the nomadic people who had been using Dokbug area (in Ladakh sector) for grazing since decades long, in a way to snatch our land in inches. A Chinese proverb is famous in the world — better do in inches than in yards,” said a report filed by former Sub-Divisional Magistrate (Nyoma) Tsering Norboo, who was assigned to probe complaints of incursion by the PLA.

Mr Norboo concluded that this was another attempt by the Chinese to claim disputed territory. The area of Dokbug and Doley Tango was frequented by shepherds and nomads from December to March every year.

The government has so far publicly shrugged off Chinese incursions with the ministry of external affairs maintaining that these were misunderstandings that occurred due to the difference in perception between China and India on the border. External affairs minister S M Krishna had recently pointed out that India shared a long border with China and that he was hopeful of amicably settling the border dispute through dialogue.

India loses 'substantial land' in 20-25 years along LAC to China- Politics/Nation-News-The Economic Times
 

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India has lost 'substantial' land to China: Official report


India has lost 'substantial' land to China: Official report - India - The Times of India

China taking over our land, Ladakh tells home ministry


Arun Joshi, Hindustan Times
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Jammu, January 11, 2010
First Published: 00:41 IST(11/1/2010)
Last Updated: 00:56 IST(11/1/2010)


China has occupied large swathes of Indian territory in the Ladakh region of Jammu and Kashmir over the years, says a note from the Leh district administration to the home ministry.
This is mainly due to the Line of Actual Control (LAC) that separates India and China in this area not being clearly demarcated, the note adds.
The note was prepared after a meeting of the district administration with representatives of the army and the Indo-Tibetan Border Police.
In December 2008, shepherds in the Chumur area of Ladakh were shooed away by Chinese troops, who uprooted their tents and warned them not to return.
The note says India has lost substantial amount of land in the last two decades. Sources said that China is taking advantage of the “ disputed territory” status of 150 km of 646 km long LAC in Ladakh sector and increasing its presence closer and closer to the Indian side.
The report has highlighted the intimidatory tactics of the Chinese troops which follows a pattern of pushing the nomads from one place to another — starting with Nang Tsang in 1987, Na Kangai in 1991, Lugba Serding in 1994 and so on. This stretch in 350 Km of Leh itself explains how 12 km long stretch was lost in seven years.
“The fact is Chinese are pushing us back from our own territory,” said Chering Dorjay, Chief Executive Councillor of Ladakh Autonomous Hill Development Council.


China taking over our land, Ladakh tells home ministry- Hindustan Times
 

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India loses 'substantial land' in 20-25 years along LAC to China

11 Jan 2010, 0558 hrs IST, ET


NEW DELHI: Government officials may have so far denied claims of violations committed by China across its borders with India, but it has been
confirmed now that the latter has lost “substantial” amount of land along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in the last two decades to Beijing.

At a recent government meeting attended by officials from the Jammu and Kashmir government, union ministry of home affairs and the Army, there was consensus that there was difference in the maps of various agencies of the LAC and that there was a lack of proper mapping of the area, said an agency report.

The report said officials at the meeting agreed that India is “withdrawing from LAC” and that though the process was slow, the country, it was pointed out, “had lost substantial amount of land in 20-25 years” to China.

India loses 'substantial land' in 20-25 years along LAC to China- Politics/Nation-News-The Economic Times
I am always confused by the "officials" mentioned in the Indian news reports, take this report for instance. First, it says "Government officials may have so far denied claims ", but then it says "The report said officials at the meeting agreed that India is “withdrawing from LAC”". Why these two group of officials make total different claims regarding this issue? One must be lying. Isn't it a little reckless to assert that China is invading your territory when even your "officials" can not reach a consensus on this?
 

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Abdullah wants Govt to take up Ladakh land issue with China

Expressing concern over reports of China taking substantial portion of land in Ladakh, Union Minister Farooq Abdullah on Monday said the Centre should take up the matter with Beijing at the earliest and sort out the boundary dispute. “This seems to be happening for the last 25 years. One cannot be absolved of the responsibility by just merely saying that the Line of Actual Control (LAC) has not been demarcated,” he said. The former Chief Minister said the Government of India should hold talks with China at the earliest and solve the boundary dispute. “Now this boundary dispute cannot hang in balance for eternity. Earliest, the best,” Abdullah said. Asked whether he had come to know about the Chinese incursions during his tenure as Chief Minister, he said “this has started coming out in the public domain only in the later part of last year. The remarks of the Union Minister came in the wake of a news report that area along Line of Actual Control with China has “shrunk” over a period of time and India has lost “substantial” amount of land in the last two decades.
 

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There was a recent report that India has lost substantial areas of land along the LAC right?

How much have we actually lost(a figure in square kilometers)?
 

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Beijing unaware of border claim

Ananth Krishnan, BEIJING, January 13, 2010

The Chinese government on Tuesday said it was unaware of a report in India that suggested China has extended its control over a significant amount of disputed territory in the Ladakh region.

But a Foreign Ministry official said China “abided by the strict commitments” it had made to New Delhi on the border issue.

The district administration in Leh sent a report to the Home Ministry this week, saying India had lost “substantial” amount of land to China along the Line of Actual Control over the past two decades. The report suggested failure by government agencies to properly map and monitor the disputed territory.

Foreign Ministry spokesperson Jiang Yu said she was unaware of the claims, indicating New Delhi did not approach Chinese officials over the report.

Ms. Jiang said China had “always abided by the strict commitments” it made to New Delhi and the two countries had “reached a consensus” to maintain peace and tranquillity along the border, pending a final settlement.

The two countries have had 13 rounds of talks to resolve the border dispute. The talks have made little progress, and several areas along the western as well as eastern sections have not been formally demarcated by the two sides.

The Hindu : News / International : Beijing unaware of border claim
 

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Antony dismisses reports of China grabbing Indian territory

IANS, 13 January 2010, 11:15am IST

NEW DELHI: Stating that there had been no change in the India-China border, defence minister A K Antony Wednesday dismissed reports of China
grabbing Indian territory and said there was just a difference in "perception".

"There is no change in the Line of Actual Control," Antony said while referring to the LAC that serves as a border between the two countries.

"There is only a difference in perception," he told reporters, referring to a meeting he held with the army corps commander in Ladakh on Tuesday.

The minister's clarification follows media reports that China was grabbing land along the Indian border.

Anotony, who visited Jammu and Kashmir on Tuesday, had also met chief minister Omar Abdullah and administrative officials of the Ladakh Hill and Development Council.

"I told them (the army and administrative officials) to study the situation in detail," he said.
Antony dismisses reports of China grabbing Indian territory - India - The Times of India
 

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So tell me which official should we believe, the one who claims China is grabbing Indian land, or the one who dismiss the report?
Like i said, I am always confused.
 

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