India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

[Bleh]

Ek aadmi bol diya, sun lye... Sorry.

Ab sab mil ke gand pe mat chado.

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

Guys, we've 374 chinese bots lurking here. 6969 iq bat eaters have been tricked and bamboozled by @Bhumihar .

Majority of these so called chinese bots are porki terrorists pretending to be Chinese. they are idiotic as they come.

 

[shashankk]

Yesterday night tweet. Check timing.


Folks, we had our sweet revenge of Su-35 incident I recommend @Bhumihar to be considered for Param Vir Chakra.

But let's come back, let's get the thread back on the line. This thread has become a full-fledged troll thread. Let's keep it only for news & relevant discussions from now on.

when people would come to know where this all originated from all celebrations will go into drain. I have been saying from last 3-4 hrs to stop this unnecessary fake propoganda comment which will only be used by enemies to defame country and also the forum.

 

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600 viewers reached

 

[Suryavanshi]

I post Verbal Diarrhea from Hindustan times also know as China times. Pinch your noses so u dont get knocked out.

‘India fired first’: China repeats after New Delhi says PLA fired near Pangong Tso

China on Tuesday said it has made “stern representations” to the Indian government after Indian troops allegedly crossed the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in eastern Ladakh and fired warning shots at Chinese border personnel on Monday.

“Through diplomatic and military channels we have made stern representations asking the Indian side to stop it’s dangerous actions, immediately withdraw the people who crossed the line and discipline the frontline troops and those who fired the warning shots and make sure similar incidents won’t happen again,” Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson, Zhao Lijian said at the regular ministry briefing on Tuesday.

The Indian army has already dismissed the allegations, first made by the People’s Liberation Army’s (PLA) western theatre command (WAC), early on Tuesday morning.

ALSO READ | China’s PLA fired shots to intimidate Indian soldiers, says Army


The WAC statement said Chinese troops had to take “countermeasures” after Indian border troops fired warning shots on Monday near the Shenpao mountain region near the south bank of Pangong Tso .

In a statement issued on Tuesday, the Indian Army said its troops exercised “great restraint and behaved in a mature and responsible manner” despite the grave provocation by Chinese troops who fired shots to intimidate Indian troops.

“It is the People’s Liberation Army that has been blatantly violating agreements and carrying out aggressive manoeuvres, while engagement at military, diplomatic and political levels is in progress,” the Indian army statement said.


“At no stage, has the Indian Army transgressed across the LAC or resorted to use of any aggressive means, including firing,” the statement said.

In Beijing, the foreign ministry, however, continued to blame the Indian side for the new round of escalation in the ongoing border tension at Pangong Lake near the LAC.

Zhao alleged that it was the Indian army, which fired first.


“I also want to stress that in this incident, the Indian side fired shots to the Chinese border troops first,” Zhao said.

“This the first time since 1975 that the tranquility is interrupted by the shots. And the Chinese side always stresses that both sides should peacefully settle our differences through dialogue and consultation. Confrontation won’t benefit either,” the foreign ministry spokesperson added.

When asked to elaborate on what “countermeasures” the Chinese troops took, Zhao said: “Currently, I have no further information for you”.


Responding to a question on whether the two sides could go back to the status quo of April, he said Beijing hoped that disengagement of troops could be achieved soon.

“You have a good wish and we all hope our troops can get back to their camping area and there won’t be any more confrontation in the border areas. You know that the place has very bad natural conditions and it is above the height of 4000 metres. In winter, it is not good for humans to live,” he said.

“So, we hope through diplomatic and military channels and through consultations on the ground, we can achieve disengagement as soon as possible and reach a consensus,” Zhao said.


In a statement issued in Mandarin, and tweeted by state media, WAC spokesperson Colonel Zhang Shuili early on Tuesday said Chinese border defence troops were forced to take countermeasures to stabilise the situation after Indian soldiers troops “outrageously fired warning shots to PLA border patrol soldiers who were about to negotiate”.

“During the operation, the Indian army blatantly shot and threatened the patrol personnel of the Chinese border defence forces who had made representations before, and the Chinese border defence forces were forced to take countermeasures to stabilise the situation on the ground,” Zhang said in the statement.

“The Indian side’s move seriously violated related agreements reached by both sides, stirred up tensions in the region, and would easily cause misunderstandings and misjudgments, which is a serious military provocation and is very vile in nature,” the spokesperson said.

Indian and Chinese troops are engaged in a bitter standoff in multiple places in eastern Ladakh.

Tensions flared up again in the region after China unsuccessfully attempted to occupy Indian territory in the southern bank of Pangong Tso lake last week when the two sides were engaged in diplomatic and military talks to resolve the border row.

ALSO READ | PLA move in Ladakh is part of Beijing plan to destabilize India

The tension between the two sides escalated after violent clashes in Galwan Valley in eastern Ladakh on June 15 in which 20 Indian Army personnel were killed. The Chinese side also suffered casualties but it is yet to give out the details.

The rise in the border tension comes days ahead of an expected meeting between external affairs minister, S Jaishankar and his Chinese counterpart Wang Yi, on the margins of a Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) foreign ministers’ meeting in Moscow on September 10,

On Monday, Jaishankar, said the failure to observe several understandings on border management dating back to 1993 raises “very important questions” about the status of ties with China.

“If peace and tranquillity on the border is not a given, then it cannot be that the rest of the relationship continues on the same basis, because clearly peace and tranquillity is the basis for the relationship,” he said while participating in an online interaction organised by The Indian Express newspaper to mark the release of his book ‘The Indain Way

 

[Sanglamorre]

@Bhumihar ab terepe honeytrap karenge enraged chinks. Xd

 

[Hiranyaksha]

Lol, it is assuming to see how naive these Chinese are. This naiveness can be used by us.

 

[Bleh]

@Bhumihar ab terepe honeytrap karenge enraged chinks. Xd

He's gonna start stockpiling condoms now.........

 

[sayareakd]

Bhumihar you are exposed

 

[Hiranyaksha]

@Bhumihar ab terepe honeytrap karenge enraged chinks. Xd

Lol, KGP will be filled with naked pictures of Han Chinese women.

 

[Suryavanshi]

From Livemint.

U can spot which newspaper are on Chinese pay roll and which are not from how they write.

Fresh border flare-up exacerbates tensions between India and China

NEW DELHI: A new flare-up along the India-China border exacerbated tensions between the two neighbours on Tuesday, with the Indian army saying Chinese troops tried to close in around some of its positions along the un-demarcated border in Ladakh and fired shots into the air - a first in decades.
The fresh tensions sparked a new war of words between New Delhi and Beijing, straining bilateral ties which have been deteriorating since May after India detected intrusions by the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) at multiple locations along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in Ladakh.
According to two people familiar with the developments, a face-off between Indian and 30- 40 Chinese troops has continued near the Rezang La Heights along the LAC.

Analysts say Monday’s events marked an escalation, given that the two armies had last used firearms against each other in 1975.
In June, India and China were involved in a violent clash in which 20 Indian troops and an unknown number of Chinese personnel were killed. The use of firearms on Monday, however, signalled a new phase in tensions, Srikanth Kondapalli, a professor of Chinese Studies at the New Delhi-based Jawaharlal Nehru University. “It is an escalation that could lead to a localized conflict or war," he said.
In its statement on Tuesday, the Indian Army refuted China's accusation that it had fired warning shots after crossing the LAC along the south bank of Pangong Lake into Chinese held territory.

“At no stage has the Indian Army transgressed across the LAC or resorted to use of any aggressive means, including firing," it said.
“It is the PLA that has been blatantly violating agreements and carrying out aggressive manoeuvres, while engagement at military, diplomatic and political level is in progress. In the instant case on 7 September 2020, it was the PLA troops who were attempting to close-in with one of our forward positions along the LAC and when dissuaded by own troops, PLA troops fired a few rounds in the air in an attempt to intimidate own troops. However, despite the grave provocation, own troops exercised great restraint and behaved in a mature and responsible manner," the Indian Army statement said.

“India, while is committed to disengagement and de-escalating the situation on the LAC, China continues to undertake provocative activities to escalate," it said.
“The Indian Army is committed to maintaining peace and tranquility, however is also determined to protect national integrity and sovereignty at all costs," it said – the wording of which Kondapalli said was a warning to China that New Delhi would take adequate steps to safeguard itself.
“The statement by the Western Theatre Command is an attempt to mislead their domestic and international audience," the Indian army statement added.
The last was a reference to remarks made by senior colonel Zhang Shuili who in a statement said India’s reported crossing of the LAC was “a grave military provocation of very bad nature."

“The flagrant act grossly violated the agreements previously reached between the two sides, and further escalated regional tensions, which can easily lead to misunderstandings and misjudgments," Zhang had said.
The development comes as Indian foreign minister S Jaishankar was on his way to Moscow where he is expected to meet his Chinese counterpart Wang Yi on Thursday to try and resolve the tensions between the two countries. Talks between defence minister Rajnath Singh and his Chinese counterpart Wei Fenghe on Friday failed to yield results.
At an event in New Delhi on Monday, Jaishankar described the situation along the India-China border as “very serious", and added that he would convey to Wang that, "If peace and tranquility is not a given then it cannot be that the rest of the relationship continues" as before.

 

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[ganesh177]

533 views right now.

Abba jaan aur unke pille dono dekh rahe, but G mein dum nahi yaha kuch bole.
On other hand indians on their sites are doing all types of roles.

 

[Suryavanshi]

From Livemint.

U can spot which newspaper are on Chinese pay roll and which are not from how they write.

Fresh border flare-up exacerbates tensions between India and China

these guys on Chinese pay roll put emphasize on Chinese spokesperson and overshadow Jaishankar

 

[mehrotraprince]

Majority of these so called chinese bots are porki terrorists pretending to be Chinese. they are idiotic as they come.

Not only that many posters on their forum pretending to be from China, US, UK, Canada, Indonesia and other countries are also Pakistanis.

 

[TheSaffron]

Bhumihar to the guests lurking on the forum :

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars

 

[airtel]

Modi also did the same. It is said that a deal with US is negotiated for uninterrupted supply of weapons in case of war with China. A rigorous Back Chanel diplomacy has gone in with all major countries including Russia, US, France, Britain, Israel etc to ensure the weapon supply in the condition of requirement. TO contain Pakistan, I think Modi will use Saudi a and UAE card or US card. There are preparations to hit Pakistan hard in case of Pakistan does any misadventure. SAM Manekshaw took 6 months but current government because of its highly successful diplomacy has done it within a short period of time. All the weapons which were required to be purchased are purchased and all the forces which were required to be deployed are deployed. Bipin Rawat's statement is testimony of that fact.

 

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Wion posted the pics

 

[DownWithCCP]

Reports by whom ? Atleast post a source.

Is such a meeting possible in such a short notice, I mean things are literally on a razor's edge, it has to be done before the end of this month at least