India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

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ataru09

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Brawl @ JNU today.

"They stealthily barged into our hostel and thrashed us without any provocation", claims the Left.

"They had unilaterally declared the hostel as their own territory and were not allowing our members to hang around the area. So we were forced to make certain readjustments to freely exercise our right of movement in an area which is our own and where there are no differing perceptions", ABVP said in its statement.

The past few years have seen increasingly violent confrontations between the two student outfits. Both want to dominate the 1000 acre campus.
Fuck Indian communists.

Soviet communists: fierce nationalists
Chicoms: fierce nationalists
Indian communists: Mao **** s**kers

Glad they are taking the fight to their turf. JNU and it's sister commie jihadi institutions (amu, jadhavpur etc.) must be cleansed of this filth.

LMAO @ "readjustments"
 

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A few tibetans in the PLA is a far cry from an entire militia composed of it. They are in no position to construct an SFF equivalent of Tibetans in the PLA. and would only shoot themselves in the foot of they try.

China may be a colonial power but these are not colonial times.
Oh yeah, they won't be able to make any SFF type force. At best, some BAT-Irregular type stuff that Pakis do.
 

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Su 30 mki was developed by from Su 27 twin seat version Su 30k. First user.

But as you said IAF has learnt the lesson the original post said IAF asked for Zhuk AME ( that's the post) .

But you are still hanging on same line... Are you our dear Chandragupta Maurya in new avatar ?

Su 57 to explain what ?

They didn't agreed to JV ? They did ..we refused.

Money issue ...

Work share related issue etc .
What I am saying is that rather than order in development Zhuk AME AESA radar from Russia for the Mig 29 it is better to get the upgrade done with the fully operational Zhuk ME pulse doppler radar which is what the IAF is doing. If the IAF subsequently wants an AESA radar on the Mig 29 it can wait for another year or so by which time Uttam should be ready for the LCA. A variant of the Uttam can be developed/adapted for the Mig-29. That will provide India the added versatility of integrating western PGMs which are available for an Indian radar but are not provided for Russian radars.

Who is Chandragupta Maurya? Didn't he die a long time ago?
 

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Oh yeah, they won't be able to make any SFF type force. At best, some BAT-Irregular type stuff that Pakis do.
I was not clear originally. My original post was in reply to the Tibetan militia thing someone was talking about. There is no doubt you can always find someone willing to do your bidding.
 

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They are "Saamana" of China.😁
Total Bakch*di..
Best part:
China normally plans for the long-term when making decisions and any provocation from other countries "will be put on record in an account book," just like the conflict of 1962, and back then, India had started its aggressive behavior from 1959. But once the international situation was suitable for China to strike back, the PLA would take action and destroy Indian troops before New Delhi realized what had happened, said a Chinese military expert who requested anonymity.

Baklu*d sala.. All India has to do is to occupy more territory in ladakh.. and steal the account book at the right time.. or make some fake entries in the account book..:cruisin2:
 

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Total Bakch*di..
Best part:
China normally plans for the long-term when making decisions and any provocation from other countries "will be put on record in an account book," just like the conflict of 1962, and back then, India had started its aggressive behavior from 1959. But once the international situation was suitable for China to strike back, the PLA would take action and destroy Indian troops before New Delhi realized what had happened, said a Chinese military expert who requested anonymity.

Baklu*d sala.. All India has to do is to occupy more territory in ladakh.. and steal the account book at the right time.. or make some fake entries in the account book..:cruisin2:
Right now we're comfortable in occupying heights and holding them also we should bait chene in vantage points where chenes are vulnerable and beat them black n blue occupy more territory to send messages to Xi and CCP minions all over the world..
 

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What I am saying is that rather than order in development Zhuk AME AESA radar from Russia for the Mig 29 it is better to get the upgrade done with the fully operational Zhuk ME pulse doppler radar which is what the IAF is doing. If the IAF subsequently wants an AESA radar on the Mig 29 it can wait for another year or so by which time Uttam should be ready for the LCA. A variant of the Uttam can be developed/adapted for the Mig-29. That will provide India the added versatility of integrating western PGMs which are available for an Indian radar but are not provided for Russian radars.

Who is Chandragupta Maurya? Didn't he die a long time ago?
First you give the source that Tejas is Getting Uttam by 21 or it is far superior to russian AESA then we will talk further.

Many trolls declared Tejas better than F-16 and Gripen in 2006-7

Kaveri was declared better than Russian or even better than f 414. 😂😂😂😂

Tejas was superior to F-16 better than Gripen 😂 with super stealth due to composite.

To enter serial production by 2010- 2012 then 15 then 18 lol .

Be realistic what's the point in waiting for another decade to get uttam when by that time many mig 29 airframe will be almost 50 yr old.

What you think abt IAF is upto you..

But IAF doesn't think like you that's for sure.. even if they didn't get it atleast they tried something sane.
 

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First you give the source that Tejas is Getting Uttam by 21 or it is far superior to russian AESA then we will talk further.

Many trolls declared Tejas better than F-16 and Gripen in 2006-7

Kaveri was declared better than Russian or even better than f 414. 😂😂😂😂

Tejas was superior to F-16 better than Gripen 😂 with super stealth due to composite.

To enter serial production by 2010- 2012 then 15 then 18 lol .

Be realistic what's the point in waiting for another decade to get uttam when by that time many mig 29 airframe will be almost 50 yr old.

What you think abt IAF is upto you..

But IAF doesn't think like you that's for sure.. even if they didn't get it atleast they tried something sane.
Do not want to derail this thread. Will respond in the IAF thread.
 

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Hate for Abhijeet Iyer Mitra is spreading like wildfire on other Indian defense forums too. Meanwhile his stand on the India-China conflict has made him quite popular on the Sino-Pakistani forums.
Tbf his thought process are shared by atleast 50% Indians.
His mistake was when he went personal with Major. This is what angered many people
 

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Army now holding 30 dominating heights, earlier unoccupied, on southern bank of Pangong Tso
The heights include Rezang La and Reqin La, a series dominating Spanggur Gap covering Patrol Points 27 to 31, among others.





Some critical parts from the article,

specialised units of the Indian Army have climbed up the heights, facing the ridgelines of Finger 4 in the northern banks of Pangong Tso where the Chinese had built posts in April.

China currently dominates areas between Finger 4 and Finger 8, a distance of about 8 km, which comes within the Indian side of the LAC.

Defence sources said close to three brigades of troops have been deployed in the south of Pangong Tso and additional acclimatised troops are available across eastern Ladakh for any subsequent challenges.


The sources told ThePrint that all troops are fully armed, with rocket launchers and mortars, other than tanks and artillery guns and surveillance equipment, deployed in their support.

Meanwhile, brigadier-level talks have been taking place between the two sides every day since Monday, but have remained inconclusive so far.

The meetings have hinged on the tactical aspects and rules of engagement of troops at the ground level, again to avoid face-offs or escalations.
Every time they are mentioning specialized troops .. ok may be Ladakh Scouts now...

I too had guessed so. From Thakung base down to Renjin La , a 70 km of space and heights ... has to be a division worth....

Boys Chinese have had it... There is no way this force can be dislodged,,, one division, supported by at least two artillery brigades (since it is 70 Km) minimum two combat groups, one brigade reserves,, and all other support paraphernalia.... That is a good move..

There is no way this is going to be withdrawn... negotiations or no negotiation... this is the new LAC for this sector..

Very well connected by road and there would not be any problems in logistics. Chusul ALG is also secure now and I can expect IAF carrying out sorties to Chusul very soon..
 

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It's been true so far, but then again this is 2020, who knows what will happen!!!
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China calibrates it's coercive activities to fall below the threshold of provoking armed conflict.
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