IN Scorpene Submarines - News & Discussions

[Punya Pratap]

Ajai Shukla's latest broadside:

http://ajaishukla.blogspot.com/2019/06/navy-finds-defects-in-scorpene.html?m=1

 

[Arihant]

Ajai Shukla's latest broadside:

http://ajaishukla.blogspot.com/2019/06/navy-finds-defects-in-scorpene.html?m=1

Someday using Hubble telescope we will find that it is not scorpene but his back which got cracks.

 

[uoftotaku]

Ajai Shukla's latest broadside:

http://ajaishukla.blogspot.com/2019/06/navy-finds-defects-in-scorpene.html?m=1

Yeh chu*** nahi badlega

"Besides INS Kalvari, the navy’s 14 conventional submarines include four 20-30 year-old, German-origin HDW 877 EKM boats (called the Sindhughosh-class); and nine 10-20 year-old, Russian-origin Kilo class Type 209 vessels (called the Shishumar class)."

What credibility does he have that he doesn't even know to correctly identify the classes

 

[Indibomber]

Ajai Shukla's latest broadside:

http://ajaishukla.blogspot.com/2019/06/navy-finds-defects-in-scorpene.html?m=1

Reading his blogs is akin to reading peedf full of delusion and jealousy

 

[vampyrbladez]

There is some truth on this story.

Pre - election :

Induction delayed till new govt. formation.

https://www.theweek.in/news/india/2...class-sub-INS-Khanderi-induction-delayed.html

Post election, Rajnath was supposed to induct it.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...th-singhs-to-do-list/articleshow/69626756.cms

Apache and Siachen are done. Only INS Khanderi is remaining. If not inducted till September, it means article was right.

Better to have a 100% functioning product than one which will require an early MLU.

 

[vampyrbladez]

Although suspiciously another Shukla relative wrote this article word for word.

https://www.ibtimes.co.in/reporters/ashish-shukla

 

[G10]

Strange that kalvari is inducted but khanderi has problems!

 

[sorcerer]

Officials said the submarine is being worked upon, and it would take at least another month before it can be deemed fit for service after the refit and life extension.

Read more at:
//economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/69819050.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

 

[Armand2REP]

Officials said the submarine is being worked upon, and it would take at least another month before it can be deemed fit for service after the refit and life extension.

Read more at:
//economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/69819050.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

That article is about a fire aboard a Kilo submarine.

 

[ezsasa]

Strange that kalvari is inducted but khanderi has problems!

Good news is that the quality checks are working, this is far better than what could have other happened.

 

[Armand2REP]

According to Naval Group, no particular problem with Indian Scorpene

Kalvari, the first of six Indian Scorpènes, went into service in December 2017 © NAVAL GROUP


Posted on 19/06/2019 by Vincent Groizeleau

A June 15 article in the Indian Business Business newspaper claims that the Indian Navy "refused to put the Khanderi into service until all its defects and deficiencies were completely corrected." The Khanderi is the second of six Scorpene-type submarines commissioned in 2005 by India and carried out in technology transfer by the shipyard Mazagon Dock Limited of Mumbai, with the assistance of the French Naval Group, designer of these buildings.

As the seed of the program, the Kalvari was put into service in December 2017, its first sistership, the Khanderi, being launched in January of the same year. It is currently in the sea trials stage and at Naval Group, it is explained that the building does not suffer from any major problem. In particular, the Indian newspaper claims that "the most worrying problem that the navy discovered during the Khanderi sea trials was a deadly defect for a submarine: its engines and propellers emitted an excessive level of noise. ". According to a source at the French industrialist, "the Indian Navy, which is satisfied with the first building in the series, has in no way rejected the second, which is still in testing. The reality is that there are some typical issues that are part of the focus, these are frequent things and there is nothing that can not be solved quickly. The Scorpene are extremely quiet submarines, they are famous for that and that's why we sell them. " In Paris, they say they do not understand the origin of an article containing such "factual errors and exaggerations".

Perhaps this publication is a political reminiscence of recent legislative elections in India? In late May, this resulted in a bitter failure by Congress, the main opposition party, and the victory of the nationalist coalition led by Prime Minister Narenda Modi, who returned for a second five-year term.

Regarding Indian Scorpene, delivery of Khanderi is planned this year. Next Karanj, launched in January 2018, the Vela, which joined his element last month, then the Vagir and Vagsheer, under construction at MDL. All must have joined the Indian fleet by 2022.

https://www.meretmarine.com/fr/cont...probleme-particulier-sur-les-scorpene-indiens

 

[BON PLAN]

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-new...indian-navy-do-not-reflect-facts-naval-group/

The recent reports on the second Scorpene submarine for Indian Navy do not reflect facts. It appears these reports are based on wrong inputs received in bits and pieces from unreliable sources. There has been some delays in completing trials of the second submarine due to setting to work related issues and minor dent to the propeller which occurred during trials. The propeller was replaced and all noise trials have been completed successfully with results well above past specified performances.
....

 

[ram singh तोपची]

According to Naval Group, no particular problem with Indian Scorpene

Kalvari, the first of six Indian Scorpènes, went into service in December 2017 © NAVAL GROUP


Posted on 19/06/2019 by Vincent Groizeleau

A June 15 article in the Indian Business Business newspaper claims that the Indian Navy "refused to put the Khanderi into service until all its defects and deficiencies were completely corrected." The Khanderi is the second of six Scorpene-type submarines commissioned in 2005 by India and carried out in technology transfer by the shipyard Mazagon Dock Limited of Mumbai, with the assistance of the French Naval Group, designer of these buildings.

As the seed of the program, the Kalvari was put into service in December 2017, its first sistership, the Khanderi, being launched in January of the same year. It is currently in the sea trials stage and at Naval Group, it is explained that the building does not suffer from any major problem. In particular, the Indian newspaper claims that "the most worrying problem that the navy discovered during the Khanderi sea trials was a deadly defect for a submarine: its engines and propellers emitted an excessive level of noise. ". According to a source at the French industrialist, "the Indian Navy, which is satisfied with the first building in the series, has in no way rejected the second, which is still in testing. The reality is that there are some typical issues that are part of the focus, these are frequent things and there is nothing that can not be solved quickly. The Scorpene are extremely quiet submarines, they are famous for that and that's why we sell them. " In Paris, they say they do not understand the origin of an article containing such "factual errors and exaggerations".

Perhaps this publication is a political reminiscence of recent legislative elections in India? In late May, this resulted in a bitter failure by Congress, the main opposition party, and the victory of the nationalist coalition led by Prime Minister Narenda Modi, who returned for a second five-year term.

Regarding Indian Scorpene, delivery of Khanderi is planned this year. Next Karanj, launched in January 2018, the Vela, which joined his element last month, then the Vagir and Vagsheer, under construction at MDL. All must have joined the Indian fleet by 2022.

https://www.meretmarine.com/fr/cont...probleme-particulier-sur-les-scorpene-indiens

if navy is satisfied with the Scorpene submarines then why only 6 why not more of it

 

[sorcerer]

if navy is satisfied with the Scorpene submarines then why only 6 why not more of it

Why not 6 now and MORE ADVANCED SSBNs in the future.
already SSBNS which are advanced is getting built in another LINE!

 

[Armand2REP]

if navy is satisfied with the Scorpene submarines then why only 6 why not more of it

I think they want Shortfin Barracuda so they can shove a nuclear reactor in it. All of the other submarines are too small.

 

[ram singh तोपची]

Why not 6 now and MORE ADVANCED SSBNs in the future.
already SSBNS which are advanced is getting built in another LINE!

if that is the case then why conventional subs why not nuclear subs only in the indian fleet

 

[sorcerer]

if that is the case then why conventional subs why not nuclear subs only in the indian fleet

Cuz both are needed for specific specific roles!

 

[ram singh तोपची]

Cuz both are needed for specific specific roles!

exactly my point ....................................

 

[IndianHawk]

I think they want Shortfin Barracuda so they can shove a nuclear reactor in it. All of the other submarines are too small.

That's absurd . We have already started designing our own SSN. There are no plans for additional nuke subs as of now. The navy is clearly looking for second line of ssk submarine with tot to build more.

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[Armand2REP]

That's absurd . We have already started designing our own SSN.

That is absurd. You don't need anymore SSKs. You need to spend all of the resources on nuclear subs. You don't see France with any SSKs. It is time India steps up to the plate and claims her rightful place next to France... replacing UK in the P5.