If the Indian Army had to start a war with Pakistan

[Bhadra]

The entire state machinery capable of war and terror has to be destroyed.(read PA/ISI)

Can someone first destroy the Indian factors into it?

Secondly, do you think India should bear the burnt of Pakistani terrorism or be ready to wage a war for it including nuclear war?
Does India have any other option other than war to deal with PA and ISI and diminish their capacity to wage terrorist war against India ? War is a last resort.

 

[Yusuf]

The entire state machinery capable of war and terror has to be destroyed.(read PA/ISI)

Can someone first destroy the Indian factors into it?

Secondly, do you think India should bear the burnt of Pakistani terrorism or be ready to wage a war for it including nuclear war?
Does India have any other option other than war to deal with PA and ISI and diminish their capacity to wage terrorist war against India ? War is a last resort.

65 years history tells us all options have been exhausted. Last time our PM went to hug their PM. It ended with over 500 soldiers of India loosing their lives in Kargil.

 

[Bhadra]

65 years history tells us all options have been exhausted. Last time our PM went to hug their PM. It ended with over 500 soldiers of India loosing their lives in Kargil.

65 year's history also tell us that these buggers are incorrigible. In spite of defeat in four wars, wars have not provided solution. They are fighting one legged and one handed.

See the video at the beginning of the thread. Thy are so adamant and stupid.

 

[Yusuf]

65 year's history also tell us that these buggers are incorrigible. In spite of defeat in four wars, wars have not provided solution. They are fighting one legged and one handed.

See the video at the beginning of the thread. Thy are so adamant and stupid.

But then we have not done anything like whats been suggested here. Cut the size of Pakistan. Cut from Arabian sea, it has no navy. It looses Balochistan as well.

Pakistan is confined to justt Punjab and the Sindhis and Baloch are looking to make their own destinies away from the madmen.

 

[Zebra]

65 year's history also tell us that these buggers are incorrigible. In spite of defeat in four wars, wars have not provided solution.
They are fighting one legged and one handed.

Than cut that remaining leg and the arm too.

First split and then defeat, totally.

Take it step by step. Much easy.

 

[ALBY]

But then we have not done anything like whats been suggested here. Cut the size of Pakistan. Cut from Arabian sea, it has no navy. It looses Balochistan as well.

Pakistan is confined to justt Punjab and the Sindhis and Baloch are looking to make their own destinies away from the madmen.

Yusuf and casper you guys are forgetting the nuke factor.Cutting away balochistan away from Paki mainland,supporting sindhi extremists,pashtuns, burning POK and there by diminishing capabilities of PA and PAF are superb if looked from theoretical point of view but not practical at all.Just take our case for an example; we had problems in all over the NE ,J&K,bastar areas all in the same time.After allthese problems we are still standing up coz we have a Standing army and airforce plus some what strong internal security arrangement.Same is the case of Pakistan they have a strong army ,airforce,paramilitary and leadership which has a backbone to use any sort of measures against any threat.
All the recently toppled regimes were destabilized by not such localised threats but by civil unreast which were under a single leadership.These so called baluchis or pashtuns neither have any base or manpower to mount any such devastating blows to the PA . Plus the entire Pak armed forces had to be infiltrated to make any effect as it was happened in libya and is happening in Syria.Still majority of pakis ie punjabis stood behind the govt and forces.
The only measure that can topple Pakistan is the onr that could be done by their govt only.Implementation of anti civilian policy which will unite all the warring groups plus citizens,and some military top brazz and penetration in ISI.
In the current scenario Indian armed forces could won a war but couldn't conquer the Pakistan nor it could hold the invaded territory.Even winning an allout war will be farfetched imagination coz their defense especially. AA batteries are topnotch,infantry and panzer units will offer a great war.J10s and F16s will not bent down so easily.The only place we could excel is in the naval battle.
Ps:any way I didn't believe in any such horrific wars in which only innocent people be it soldiers or civilians dies but the real culprits the politicians and other top brazz escapes .Destabilizing Pakista will not bring any stability to the region but only worsen the balance of the subcontinent.There are also chances of nukes slipping away into the hands of extremistsn and Pakista won't be anything better than todays iraq,yemen,afghanistan or Syria.And the it will have negative impacts on our side also.We will have to face influx of refugees and in that cover the tangos across border will infiltrate our own nation and will cause problems here.

 

[Yusuf]

nuke factor has already been considered. Check the earlier posts.

1) take out the nukes
2) have defence for it
3) be ready to take some damage.

 

[captonjohn]

If war breaks out between India and Pakistan then I suggest following actions should be taken:
1. First destroy their air defense capabilities that includes major air defense radar installations by anti radiation missiles or by special forces operations.
2. Blow out all major dams, roads, bridges in the maximum pakistani region so that Pakistani forces would have to deal with their people's safety also. Floods can reach faster than Indian Army.
3. Block the all rivers water going to Pakistan that would make situation more panic for their people.
4. Starts paradropping special forces behind the enemy lines to destroy their supply lines, important targets that can not be reached by air attacks.
5. First focus on targeting all mobilisation options including railway lines, bridges, roads, that would delay Pakistani Army's reinforcements. Mobilisation options being disabled it won't be easy to mobile their forces, foods, supplies from one place to another and that would buy more time for India.
6. Next start targeting all military targets, obviously hidden and underground missile sites would remain unharmed hence infiltration our spies to find out and take all those targets by commando operations.
7. Start begin to push into Pakistan's territory to make pressure on Pakistani forces and do not rush for Islamabad. War is going to take time and would run longer. That war would ruin both nation's economy but Indian economy can sustain that loss but Pakistani economy can not. Result would lead to victory.

8. In between China would also be involved in war to support Pakistan but due to this topic is only based on Pakistan hence I am just bypassing those suggestions.

9. Next threat would be nuclear strike for that keep prepared Anti missile systems. But that won't be enough hence send secret spies to capture major scientists to get more intel.

10. Pakistan do not has the capability for nuclear attack from the sea. Their mobile missile units and hidden units in caves would be major threats and for this start massive operation to search and destroy them.

11. I am not in the favor of total invasion of Pakistan but since last 65 years India has learned that only this is the way to maintain peace in the region. That is completely invade Pak.

I may sound ruthless, heartless but war itself is brutal and to win it everything should be done no matter how worse it is.

 

[Yusuf]

Blowing dams is against the convention. India will invite international condemnation and get up pulled up.

 

[Bhadra]

I though we were to decide on why to conduct a war rather than how to conduct the war !

What will force India to wage a war and with what aims in view ?

 

[Yusuf]

I though we were to decide on why to conduct a war rather than how to conduct the war !

What will force India to wage a war and with what aims in view ?

I think we have hit enough reasons to start a war.

What we have to now look fit is an immediate excuse to start one.

 

[Cliff@sea]

I think we have hit enough reasons to start a war.

What we have to now look fit is an immediate excuse to start one.

Oh My God
Such intense WARMONGERING !!

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[Bhadra]

I think we have hit enough reasons to start a war.

What we have to now look fit is an immediate excuse to start one.

I do not think India will attack Pakistan for any reason other than Terrorism. A large scale terrorist attack will be politically un- viable for any Political party or PM in India. Though India has capacity to sustain many such attacks but Mumbay has shown that the govt will be forced politically to respond militarily

 

[Yusuf]

Oh My God
Such intense WARMONGERING !!

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Off course. National security and interests at stake.

 

[Rahul92]

Well i would like Indian army to start invade pakistan from its tajikistan base via afganistan

 

[Yusuf]

I do not think India will attack Pakistan for any reason other than Terrorism. A large scale terrorist attack will be politically un- viable for any Political party or PM in India.

Or it could well be a preemptive one.

 

[Bhadra]

Oh My God
Such intense WARMONGERING !!

:

Read entire thread first.

 

[Bhadra]

Well i would like Indian army to start invade pakistan from its tajikistan base via afganistan

The question is not how. The question is why will India invade Pakistan?

 

[Bhadra]

Or it could well be a preemptive one.

Difficult to be pre-emptive because in that case it could be prevented. So it is the primary task of Indian intelligence agencies to play a positive role in prevention of a war between India and Pakistan.

 

[Yusuf]

Difficult to be pre-emptive because in that case it could be prevented. So it is the primary task of Indian intelligence agencies to play a positive role in prevention of a war between India and Pakistan.

We have failed in the last 65 years. We go back to the same thing.