IAF Mi-17V5 Crashed Near Coonoor (Tamil Nadu)-CDS Onboard

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when the call comes I shall never hesitate for a second before joining giving the ultimate sacrifice for this country my bharat.

There can be no greater on honour than joining the likes of our Bipin and Manekshaw sir's in the heavens.
We all will brother if and when our motherland calls for it. This will just be like a dream come true to meet all those veer back in heaven who were lucky enough to serve the nation and lay their lives for her safety.
 

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Marao BC - so called super power - a serving top general is lost to a crash.

Do you know - Gen Rawat survived a chopper crash previously. So did Lt. Gen Ranbir Singh.

our chopper safety record is quite bad
The loss of Gen Rawat is a bad hit to morale. But the likes of ajai Shukla, panag etc is what really pissed me off. These snakes unbelievably served in the army.. how neech can they be to celebrate death of a serving general and that too public display of same.
 

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The loss of Gen Rawat is a bad hit to morale. But the likes of ajai Shukla, panag etc is what really pissed me off. These snakes unbelievably served in the army.. how neech can they be to celebrate death of a serving general and that too public display of same.
Ajai shukla was kicked out of army and his wife is a researcher inn arunachal pradesh (no one know what kind of research she does).

Panag, bakhshi, etc are arm lobbyists based from chandigarh.
They have their shares in the arms deal.

They are arm lobbyists and nothing else
 

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Ajai shukla was kicked out of army and his wife is a researcher inn arunachal pradesh (no one know what kind of research she does).

Panag, bakhshi, etc are arm lobbyists based from chandigarh.
They have their shares in the arms deal.

They are arm lobbyists and nothing else
Any link when and why he was kicked out?
 

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Ajai shukla was kicked out of army and his wife is a researcher inn arunachal pradesh (no one know what kind of research she does).

Panag, bakhshi, etc are arm lobbyists based from chandigarh.
They have their shares in the arms deal.

They are arm lobbyists and nothing else
Which Bakshi are you talking about?
 

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Yes common man of India is always like this. It is Political dispensation which was/is bastard.

Indian citizens always stood with Armed Forces, right from Independence of India.

Right from 1947 liberation of Kashmir, where common was standing with the govt of the day, .

In 1965 though India faced severe drought most dreadful in century it was so severe that America had to donate 10.00 million tons of wheat to India.

L.B. Shastri had just become Prime Minister of India, while war was on he asked his countrymen to donate for fighting the war. Piss poor Indians replied his plea. Mothers and Sisters donated there Ornaments for the cause of the country. And for saving money he had given call for fast many countrymen started fasting skipping one meal a day.

Common man had never had doubt about this great nation and has great love and affection for this country.

But it was ill fate of this nation that the bastard dispensation ruled this nation successively in the past.

It was ill fate of the nation that we lost Greats like Raas Bihari Bose, Netaji Subhash Charnda Bose, Vallabhbhai, LB Shastri etc. over the likes of Ganduji, Neverwho, Bandaria(Indra).

The common man of India Stood behind these bastards accepting them as leaders and in the hope that these leaders will do everything good for this nation. Just like they are standing behind MUDI right now.

But every leader betrayed common Indian Citizen, this is the tragedy of India and its people.
This beauty is what we need to protect dearly. You know, I am losing hope with the Judiciary and even the police who even if they have good intentions, can't do much. I picked it up on Twitter (can't remember the handles). Several guys (presumably) were talking about 'citizen volunteer squads' who could track down the scum such as these and beat them to a pulp & let the police figure out what happened.

How viable do you think this method is? Clearly, these guys have had enough political nonsense and want to do something about it. Personally, I think since law & order is political stooge in our country, people have to do something themselves.
 

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This beauty is what we need to protect dearly. You know, I am losing hope with the Judiciary and even the police who even if they have good intentions, can't do much. I picked it up on Twitter (can't remember the handles). Several guys (presumably) were talking about 'citizen volunteer squads' who could track down the scum such as these and beat them to a pulp & let the police figure out what happened.

How viable do you think this method is? Clearly, these guys have had enough political nonsense and want to do something about it. Personally, I think since law & order is political stooge in our country, people have to do something themselves.
You need to make these scum learn that their actions on social media translate into consequences in real time.

A few incidents of loss of employment, life and limb and the chilling effect will take care of the rest.
 

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Ajai shukla was kicked out of army and his wife is a researcher inn arunachal pradesh (no one know what kind of research she does).

Panag, bakhshi, etc are arm lobbyists based from chandigarh.
They have their shares in the arms deal.

They are arm lobbyists and nothing else
Wow! Can you post some reading material about this? Do you have any?

As for arms lobbying, this will sadly continue until the government does something to keep retired soldiers busy. You see, they give their lives and are suddenly left to fend off for themselves with a measly pension that does not address their needs enough (in many cases). We have to live with this fact that some people are more materially ambitious and even if there was a way to 'deal' with them, we cannot get rid of them for good.

There is a middle was of resolving this arms lobbying and making them work for India.

  1. Legalize private arms ownership - liberalize it from its current state but make it more stringent than the madness of USA (the clause should be Indian-made weapons only)
  2. Legalize private military corporations where retired military folks can start working. Criminalize their operations inside India, but let them work world over. This will allow them to earn good & at the same time keep busy rather than becoming devils on their own.
Effects of (1)

a) This would lead to a drastic drop in the cost of making weapons & small arms ammunition. It might result initially in a spike in crime but when most people will be armed, no one will dare to shoot each other.

b) State police will be able to significantly arm up as the economies of scale of manufacturing weapons would be cheaper.

c) Retired military personnel can actually make money without affecting the nation's security

Effects of (2)

d) Extension of 1C above - jobs, specialization and a strategic ecosystem. Basically, these ex-military folks can found private military companies that will allow the government to contract a lot of 'unofficial' stuff to them. Money will be made, objectives will be met & national interests will not be compromised like this.
 

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Wow! Can you post some reading material about this? Do you have any?

As for arms lobbying, this will sadly continue until the government does something to keep retired soldiers busy. You see, they give their lives and are suddenly left to fend off for themselves with a measly pension that does not address their needs enough (in many cases). We have to live with this fact that some people are more materially ambitious and even if there was a way to 'deal' with them, we cannot get rid of them for good.

There is a middle was of resolving this arms lobbying and making them work for India.

  1. Legalize private arms ownership - liberalize it from its current state but make it more stringent than the madness of USA (the clause should be Indian-made weapons only)
  2. Legalize private military corporations where retired military folks can start working. Criminalize their operations inside India, but let them work world over. This will allow them to earn good & at the same time keep busy rather than becoming devils on their own.
Effects of (1)

a) This would lead to a drastic drop in the cost of making weapons & small arms ammunition. It might result initially in a spike in crime but when most people will be armed, no one will dare to shoot each other.

b) State police will be able to significantly arm up as the economies of scale of manufacturing weapons would be cheaper.

c) Retired military personnel can actually make money without affecting the nation's security

Effects of (2)

d) Extension of 1C above - jobs, specialization and a strategic ecosystem. Basically, these ex-military folks can found private military companies that will allow the government to contract a lot of 'unofficial' stuff to them. Money will be made, objectives will be met & national interests will not be compromised like this.

I dont agree to 1, we might have to deal with the same mass shooting by suicidal people....
 

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Bipin Rawat said homosexuality ll nt be tolorated in army . I dint want 2 comment on this . But forced to . He is right . During deployment or war men have to stay in those small bunkers and sleep side by side . Now imagine 2 men doing stuffs by your side ...



Young men at the age of 19 /20 year join army . A jawan obey his officer like command of God . Now imagine how things can go wrong .

Its complicated in combat forces . Discipline is everything . Management of of attitude , morale decides your victory .

There are other fields like in IB , raw and even in civilian spheres . And no one opposing women or other people . Infact IB prefer women in many cases .
Why target the combat forces . Any blemish in army is blemish on state and its security . Its nt place for social justice etc .
The anarchists don't care about homosexuals or women or anyone. They are here to set the country on fire because their puppets are not in power any more. So they will gaslight everything and everyone in the current ruling dispensation.

I can't understand why Ajit Doval & Amit Shah are unable to see this.
 

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I dont agree to 1, we might have to deal with the same mass shooting by suicidal people....

and then left will jump up and down about it being hindu terrorism if perpetrator is hindu, doing same stuff cong did after 26/11 trying to justify terrorists.
About your spoiler: It will at least incite fear in the eyes of the enemies.

Imagine the current situation; Emotions are high and traitors are laughing. Now if a band of angry young men and women went ahead & dealt with these scumbags who are celebrating, how many lunatics the nation would be rid of.
 

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About your spoiler: It will at least incite fear in the eyes of the enemies.

Imagine the current situation; Emotions are high and traitors are laughing. Now if a band of angry young men and women went ahead & dealt with these scumbags who are celebrating, how many lunatics the nation would be rid of.
Would spoil Indias image internationally, which matters a lot. What you are talking abt happens in pakistan and is one of the reasons its treated like crap. Soft power matters, we've finally managed to elevate ourself from poster child of third world poverty to a strong country....

2.5 front is unlikely. In case of war, army&gov have extreme powers. If protestor block roads, they can be fired on. If people incite protests, they can be picked up and jailed without question.

The 1/2 front is only an issue in peacetime, where they delay country's progress. For that, making them unemployed and temporary jail should suffice.
 

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Would spoil Indias image internationally, which matters a lot. What you are talking abt happens in pakistan and is one of the reasons its treated like crap. Soft power matters, we've finally managed to elevate ourself from poster child of third world poverty to a strong country....

2.5 front is unlikely. In case of war, army&gov have extreme powers. If protestor block roads, they can be fired on. If people incite protests, they can be picked up and jailed without question.

The 1/2 front is only an issue in peacetime, where they delay country's progress. For that, making them unemployed and temporary jail should suffice.
The 0.5 front is already active right now calling themselves liberals and causing havoc in the civil society.

What image are you talking about? In this post pandemic world, everyone is for himself.

Just travel around and see how negative our image is despite all our efforts due to the colonial narrative being dominant in the white world.

Because of them, our image is even messed up in friendly places like Singapore & Korea.

Thankfully due to the recent fights with PLA, the world suddenly came on our side. But barring that, people still believe in the Gora narrative of us being useless 'third worlders'.
 

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Irrelevant Post, but want to make a comment, Tamil people are generally patriotic people, It was from Tamilnadu we had 63 Naayanmars ( Worshippers of Lord Shiva) & 12 Alwars ( Worshippers of Lord Vishnu). They contributed a lot to Tamil literature which was later hijacked by Dumeelans and missionaries for selfish goals.

Tamilnadu is the only place where we have 3 most famous Temples Lord Shiva in Fire Form ( Thiruvannamalai), Lord Shiva in Water Form ( Thiruvanaikovil) my native place. Srirangam ( which is known as earth abode of Lord Vishnu). Tamilnadu is the only state where we have dedicated temples for all 9 planets related to astrology.

It was from this state of Tamilnadu, India produced its finest General Sundarji

It was from this State of Tamilnadu, Abdul Kalam was born.

Many prominent people from tamilnadu through their Intellectual hardwork made Tamilnadu and India Proud.

However sad part is DUMEELANS AND MISSIONARIES took credit for it.
There is an unexplored level of patriotism in the south which has never been explored as it’s never come to the light. From a school kid in a small village to a high ranking police officer. The national anthem is ingrained into the minds at a young age and to always salute a flag when you walk past it. And if you ever meet an army guy, you salute him. These are taught to the smallest child at every nook nanny and corner. No, they may not speak English, no they may not speak Hindi. But one thing everyone knows and understands is India. And everyone one from every state needs to count their lucky stars that they were born in India. The only region/land in all of Asia which promotes a truly secular, democratic and freedom loving country. Look at all the neighbors india has, and count how lucky you are to be a part of India. Both economically and culturally.
 

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Jaichands and Parasites!
After retirement, Rawat had a bright political career which many feared. He had the capacity and connections to achieve a lot more than VK Singh. Just imagine, if he had been the Defense Minster after retirement at some point in the future. The Chandigarh lobby would have gone bankrupt and almost all foreign maal commission would have dried up. So there is a stake for not just the desi dalals but also the foreign arms lobby. So cant rule out anything! The whole episode just seems so unreal.
 

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After retirement, Rawat had a bright political career which many feared. He had the capacity and connections to achieve a lot more than VK Singh. Just imagine, if he had been the Defense Minster after retirement at some point in the future. The Chandigarh lobby would have gone bankrupt and almost all foreign maal commission would have dried up. So there is a stake for not just the desi dalals but also the foreign arms lobby. So cant rule out anything! The whole episode just seems so unreal.
Judging by PM Modi's disappointment and sadness (Evident on his face), he may have been planning to have Gen. Rawat as a defence minister in the future once Ninda Turtle retired.
 

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