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Almost all the Sanskrit texts written by Kashmiri authors were published by the Jammu and Kashmir state publications. Till 1947, Jammu and Kashmir state was a fount of research in Sanskrit, with research often conducted by scholarly Kashmiri Pandits. Kashmir was one of the apexes of rigorous Sanskrit scholastic study. Kumārāyana, a Kashmiri Aryā spread Buddhist teachings in Kucha (Tarem Basin), married the Kuchan princess & became the Royal Priest. His son Kumārajīva became one of the greatest translators of SANSKRIT in China.

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I think you are the best person to ask about this, I see various neo-Buddhists, Ambedkarites and others posting this type of stuff saying Brahmins used to kill and attack Buddhists. Is all this really true or just made up fake neo-Buddhist propaganda?

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This is just propaganda by neo- Buddhists. Buddhists were not killed or attacked by Brahmins but were defeated in debates , I think u might have known how Adi Shankaracharya defeated them
 

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Modern life is unimaginable with numbers and positional notations. Mathematics and records will be incomplete without the decimal system. This ingenious scheme was created by BHARTIYA mathematicians and is now known as Hindu Arabic number system.

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Earlier civilizations couldn't use zero or positional systems, hence recording even moderately large numbers used to be very difficult.

For example 123456 in Roman numerals will look like this. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Hindu number system used in BHARAT had the notion of zero and decimal point that made numbers easier to manage and development of different mathematical branches. The BAKSHALI manuscript, part of which is dated to 200-300 ce, contains the decimal notation.
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Originally in BHARAT, Brahmi and Kharosthi numerals were used. However, both lacked the positional decimal notation and hence suffered from similar deficiencies as the roman numerals. See examples of Brahmi and Kharoshti numerals.

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Later, during the Gupta age, decimal point and zero started to be developed and used in the Hindu number system by ARYABHATTA, BRAHMAGUPTA, SARVANANDI and others. Usage can be found in Brahmasputasidhhanta, Aryabhatiya, and other mathematical treatises of that period.

Later after arab travellers visit to BHARAT , the Hindu mathematics reached Arabia. The notable mathematicians there openly recognized the origin of the number system to Hindu mathematicians. The most notable example is al-Khwarizmi, known for the term algorithm.

Musa al-Khwarizmi was born around 800 ce in Persia and was a notable mathematician of the arab world world. His relevant work is "On the Calculation with Hindu numerals" and whose latin translation "Algoritmi de numero Indorum" became popular in eurfags.

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Another notable Arab mathematician al-Kindi wrote kitāb fī isti'māl al-'adād al-hindī (كتاب في استعمال العداد الهندي) or "On the use of BHARTIYA numerals". Almost all Arab mathematicians openly acknowledged the BHARTIYA Hindu number system.

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After the Arab manuscripts were taken to eurfags, two changes happened. First, the translation of al-Hind was done as Indians and not Hindus. Second, the number system was mentioned as Hindu-Arabic number system. But the Arabs only referred to the Hindus.

If we see what al-Khwarizmi wrote, he only credited the BHARTIYA People / Hindus (translated as Indians) for creating the number system. See the explanation of the modern number system mentioned by him and credited to the Hindu mathematicians. Highlighted portion shows the usage of 0 Zero.

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Excerpt from the english translation of the 13th century latin manuscript of al-Khwarizmi's Arithmetic, Source: Thus Spake al-Khwsrizmi: A Translation of the Text of Cambridge University Library Ms. http://Ii.vi.5 Historia Mathematica 17 (1990).

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Later, after these mathematical treatises went to eurfags and the roman, french, spanish mathematicians gradually converted these to Hindu-Arabic number system.

It's noteworthy indeed how much the Arabic mathematicians credit the Hindus of BHARAT.
 

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Modern life is unimaginable with numbers and positional notations. Mathematics and records will be incomplete without the decimal system. This ingenious scheme was created by BHARTIYA mathematicians and is now known as Hindu Arabic number system.

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Earlier civilizations couldn't use zero or positional systems, hence recording even moderately large numbers used to be very difficult.

For example 123456 in Roman numerals will look like this. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Hindu number system used in BHARAT had the notion of zero and decimal point that made numbers easier to manage and development of different mathematical branches. The BAKSHALI manuscript, part of which is dated to 200-300 ce, contains the decimal notation.
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Originally in BHARAT, Brahmi and Kharosthi numerals were used. However, both lacked the positional decimal notation and hence suffered from similar deficiencies as the roman numerals. See examples of Brahmi and Kharoshti numerals.

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Later, during the Gupta age, decimal point and zero started to be developed and used in the Hindu number system by ARYABHATTA, BRAHMAGUPTA, SARVANANDI and others. Usage can be found in Brahmasputasidhhanta, Aryabhatiya, and other mathematical treatises of that period.

Later after arab travellers visit to BHARAT , the Hindu mathematics reached Arabia. The notable mathematicians there openly recognized the origin of the number system to Hindu mathematicians. The most notable example is al-Khwarizmi, known for the term algorithm.

Musa al-Khwarizmi was born around 800 ce in Persia and was a notable mathematician of the arab world world. His relevant work is "On the Calculation with Hindu numerals" and whose latin translation "Algoritmi de numero Indorum" became popular in eurfags.

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Another notable Arab mathematician al-Kindi wrote kitāb fī isti'māl al-'adād al-hindī (كتاب في استعمال العداد الهندي) or "On the use of BHARTIYA numerals". Almost all Arab mathematicians openly acknowledged the BHARTIYA Hindu number system.

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After the Arab manuscripts were taken to eurfags, two changes happened. First, the translation of al-Hind was done as Indians and not Hindus. Second, the number system was mentioned as Hindu-Arabic number system. But the Arabs only referred to the Hindus.

If we see what al-Khwarizmi wrote, he only credited the BHARTIYA People / Hindus (translated as Indians) for creating the number system. See the explanation of the modern number system mentioned by him and credited to the Hindu mathematicians. Highlighted portion shows the usage of 0 Zero.

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Excerpt from the english translation of the 13th century latin manuscript of al-Khwarizmi's Arithmetic, Source: Thus Spake al-Khwsrizmi: A Translation of the Text of Cambridge University Library Ms. http://Ii.vi.5 Historia Mathematica 17 (1990).

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Later, after these mathematical treatises went to eurfags and the roman, french, spanish mathematicians gradually converted these to Hindu-Arabic number system.

It's noteworthy indeed how much the Arabic mathematicians credit the Hindus of BHARAT.
You should watch this video
 

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प्राचीन भारतीय ओदुम्बर गण की शिव भक्ति और मुद्रा पर महर्षि विश्वामित्र का अंकन 200 bce यहां पाईपर द्वारा नं. 1028 पर एक प्राचीन ओदुम्बर गण के सिक्के का अंकन है.. सिक्के के पृष्ठ भाग पर त्रिशुल और वृक्ष का अंकन है तथा ब्राह्मी में लिखा है - महादेवस् राञो धाराघोसानंद फिर ओदुम्बरस जिसका है - राजा धाराघोसानंद, महादेव का भक्त, एक ओदुम्बर.. सिक्के के पश्च भाग में भी खरोष्ठी में यही वाक्य लिखा है तथा एक और पुरूष आकृति है जिसके साथ खरोष्ठी में विश्पामित्र लिखा है जिसे ऐलन ने महर्षि विश्वामित्र के रूप में पहचाना है।

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Aye Aye Captain.
बौद्ध ग्रंथ महावंश में श्रीराम, दशरथ,भरत,कुश आदि राजाओं को बौद्धों का माई-बाप लिखा गया है अनुवादक भी बौद्ध भिक्षु है और प्रकाशन भी सम्यक प्रकाशन है.

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Another Myth that circulates is ‘Sikhs’ saved 22,000 Maratha Women who were captured by Afghan King Ahmad Shah Abdali after Marathas lost waπ in 1761. This is Again NOT true.

When the wαπ was over, next day the battle-field was examined by Anugpir Gosavi and Kashiraj under the instructions of Shuja-duala They discovered : 32 large heaps of coπpses when counted numbered 28 thousand

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35 thousand were taken as prisoners and slαughtered brutαlly by the Durranis 8 thousand Maratha refugees and four hundred of the officer took shelter in Shuja-ud-daula's camp

75 thousand Marathas were kιlled and 22 thousand saved their lives by PAYING RANSOM. NOTE : 1) They paid ransom to free themselves 2) There is not mentioned that 22 thousand were Women and children 3) No record of Sikhs saved them.

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In fact within four days of the Battle, the Peshwa himself arrived as far as Gwalior with a large force. Shah was anxious that the waπ might be renewed any moment Shah agreed to the proposal of Bapuji Mahadev & asked Yakub Ali Khan to proceed to Gwalior and bring Treaty of Peace

Personally with the Peshwa. The Shah decided to his country If Peace Treaty was signed then how come Sikhs fought waπ for Maratha Women. They were the ones who already paid the ransom for their release.

Source : The New History of Marathas by Sardesai.

The number of the total strength varies in another book, which is more precise The Book of Manoj Dani have mentioned the total strength was 50,000 to 60000 Maximum casualties between 20,000 to 35000

But the fact remains the same. Sikhs have not saved the Maratha women

 

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Another Myth that circulates is ‘Sikhs’ saved 22,000 Maratha Women who were captured by Afghan King Ahmad Shah Abdali after Marathas lost waπ in 1761. This is Again NOT true.

When the wαπ was over, next day the battle-field was examined by Anugpir Gosavi and Kashiraj under the instructions of Shuja-duala They discovered : 32 large heaps of coπpses when counted numbered 28 thousand

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35 thousand were taken as prisoners and slαughtered brutαlly by the Durranis 8 thousand Maratha refugees and four hundred of the officer took shelter in Shuja-ud-daula's camp

75 thousand Marathas were kιlled and 22 thousand saved their lives by PAYING RANSOM. NOTE : 1) They paid ransom to free themselves 2) There is not mentioned that 22 thousand were Women and children 3) No record of Sikhs saved them.

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In fact within four days of the Battle, the Peshwa himself arrived as far as Gwalior with a large force. Shah was anxious that the waπ might be renewed any moment Shah agreed to the proposal of Bapuji Mahadev & asked Yakub Ali Khan to proceed to Gwalior and bring Treaty of Peace

Personally with the Peshwa. The Shah decided to his country If Peace Treaty was signed then how come Sikhs fought waπ for Maratha Women. They were the ones who already paid the ransom for their release.

Source : The New History of Marathas by Sardesai.

The number of the total strength varies in another book, which is more precise The Book of Manoj Dani have mentioned the total strength was 50,000 to 60000 Maximum casualties between 20,000 to 35000

But the fact remains the same. Sikhs have not saved the Maratha women

And that's not the only example, there's dozens. Here's a brilliant article by Yogendra Singh:

"Recurrences of this theme – of Sikhs saving Hindus – has seen particular accretion in the past few years owing greatly to the nationalist brigade’s unflinching dedication to it. The natural result of which is Sikh fawning Hindus and self-preening Sikhs, all while seriously battering the historic events and their readings. The narrative – which has now turned into mammoth propaganda – is clearly short of any legitimacy at historic evaluations.

Since the start, till up to the 5th Guru, Sikhism had hardly established itself as a separate religion. It was seen more as a long extending branch of the great tree of Hinduism. And this branch, under the ruling, or rather guidance, of the earlier 5 gurus, was largely a peaceful one – not habitual to carrying arms & far away from proper militarisation. It was under the celebrated clans of Rajputs, particularly Rathores, that the militarisation of Sikhs was initiated.

According to Sikhan di Bhagat Ratan Mala (written in the 17th century), Guru Hargobind was taught Shastarvidya by two Rajputs, namely Rao Sigara and Rao Jaita. His great-grandson Guru Govind Singh, the tenth Guru of Sikhs, was taught Shastra-Vidya by Rao Bajjar Singh Rathore, great-grandson of Rao Mandan Ji Rathore. And later Guru Govind’s kids were taught by Rai Alam Singh Chauhan, who, till today is considered as one of the finest generals to have ever lead Sikhs.

The most prominent of names, under the Sikhs saving Hinduism claim, is of the tenth Guru, Govind Singh. However, history around him is not as simple as has been painted over the years with a thick bold brush. When his father Guru Teg Bahadur, who later became the ninth Guru, was facing heavy opposition from other Sikh groups against heading the Sikh community; it was Sawai Jai Singh who supported and played a crucial role in ensuring his elevation to the top.

The same Sawai Jai Singh also, along with Rana Raj Singh, saved Guru Teg Bahadur from the evil clutches of Aurangzeb and also gifted Gurudwara Bangla Saheb to the Sikhs. As per Guru Govind Singh’s own confession in the Zafarnama – a letter, of him to the tyrant Mughal ruler Aurangzeb, with a complex set of challenging and pleasing words of pure puffery – Guru Govind was an ‘idol-breaker’.

“I vanquished the vicious hill chiefs, they were idol-worshippers and I am idol-breaker,” he said as per the verse 95.

Aurangzeb was sufficiently pleased with the letter for he ordered his governor Wazir Khan – who was in conflict with Guru Govind prior to the letter exchange – not to trouble the Guru anymore. One of the instances of Wazir Khan troubling Guru Govind comes at the famous battle site of the Chamkaur-sahib, in 1704, when Guru Govind, after being chased by Wazir Khan and 700 horsemen and losing his 40+ men and 2 young sons, was in a hapless and life-threatening situation. If it wasn’t for Roop Chand & Jagat Singh – the two Hindu Rajputs of Kachhawaha clan – who provided protection & refuge to the Guru, darkness would have swooped the time frame.

Guru’s conflict with the hill Rajas was not confined only to words. His men had plundered the domains of the semi-autonomous Hindu Rajas in the Punjab hills, some of them being the same who gave Guru Govind asylum post his father’s execution. In course of these conflicts with the hill Rajas, Guru Govind came into a direct confrontation with the Mughal empire.

This undertaking wasn’t to oust Muslim Mughals and save Hindus, as some still think, but to satisfy his own political ambitions. All of these Guru Govind’s conflicts have been summarised succinctly by Dr Koenraad Elst in his sharp words –

“Govind Singh, only fought the Mughal army when he was forced to, and it was hardly to protect Hinduism.”

And at times Guru Govind sought power and also supported the Mughals after Aurangzeb’s death in 1707 when the Guru militarily assisted Bahadur Shah in his quest for the throne. A fight which can safely be termed as an inter-Mughal conflict, not against Muslims or to save Hindus, as claimed. On the contrary, as Elst pointed out, one of the battles he fought on Bahadur Shah’s side was against the rebellious Rajputs.

As a reward for which he received a fief in Nanded on the Godavari river in the south. His end in life journey also came while in engagement with the Mughals. He was stabbed by two Pathan assassins (possibly sent by Wazir Khan, fearing Govind Singh’s influence on the Mughal emperor) in 1708 when he was accompanying Bahadur Shah in an expedition to the south.

Similar contrasting records to the recent narrative can also be seen in events relating to another Sikh Guru, Hargobind Singh, the 5th Guru. When Guru Hargobind was released from Gwalior jail in February 1620, he had with him the company of 52 Rajput princes of the Rathore clan. These Rajputs then went on to raise an army of 700 horsemen for the protection of the ruling house of Sikhs. The local Jagirdars of Punjab – who, being unhappy after Guru Hargobind’s release from Gwalior, had struck an alliance with Mughal governor Abdul Khan – attacked Guru at Rohilla, in, what later came to be known as the first battle of the Sikhs.

Luckily for the Sikhs and the Guru, Rajputs under Rao Mandan Ji Rathore were standing as the bulwark in between. The Mughal governor was badly defeated and Jagirdars, the enemies, were made to flee. Subsequently, the Sikh Guru was saved & protected by the mighty and glorious among the already battle-hardened Rajputs.

Another of such instances of effort and sacrifice by Hindus for the Sikh Guru can be seen when in 1628 CE Guru Hargobind visited Raja of Bilaspur Kalyan Chand at his capital Kot-Kehloor. Raja gave him patronage along with the village of Kiratpur and Kalyanpur as Jagir. The Mughal Emperor Jahangir, taking serious objection to it, asked the Raja to remove the Guru from the hill state of Kehloor, to which the Raja refused. Later Raja Kalyan Chand shifted his capital from Kot-Kehloor to Sunhani (Bilaspur), but didn’t renege from his stance.

In modern propaganda, both the contributions of Hindus in saving Sikhs and instances of Sikhs harming Hindus – as in of Guru Hargobind breaking the idol at Naina Devi temple (per Dabistan a contemporary work) – is often sidelined and slipped under the carpet. And the other who can’t be ignored gets appropriated. As with Banda Bahadur, the man who slaughtered Afghans and Mughals greatly and protected the Sikh Guru, is now being claimed by some as Sikh.

While he was a Hindu Rajput (of the Manhas Clan) and was born as Lakshman Dev. The first Sikh state was created by him. As part of a Bairag Vaishnav sect, he had an ashram of his own, where Sikhs used to throw meat and slaughter goats. Infuriated with which his contempt against those Sikhs increased and is apparently seen in verses (18, 19, 20, 21) of Sri Gur Panth Prakash.

Verses tell that Banda Singh had written that he was no longer a follower of the Guru but now of Bairagi Vaishno seat. Adding that he harassed and tortured those Sikhs as brutally as they had slaughtered goats in his monastery.

One of the darkest of turns came in April 1796, when a huge Kumbh Mela in Haridwar was organised with around 25 lakh people. On the last day of the mela, a Sikh band of Patiala’s Raja Sahib Singh made wolf attacks on Hindus.

“On the morning of the 10th of April (which day concluded the mela), about 8 o’clock in the morning the Sikhs… assembled in force and proceeded to the different watering places, where they attacked with swords, spears, and fire-arms, every tribe of faqirs that came in their way. These people being all on foot and few if any having fire-arms, the contest was unequal; and the Sikhs who were all mounted, drove the Sannyasis, Vairagis, Gosains, Nagas &c., before them with irresistible fury… and having slaughtered a great number pursued the remainder. Accounts agree that the faqirs lost about 5,000 men killed, among whom was one of their mahants named Manpuri and they had many wounded: of the Sikhs about 20 were killed” (Asiatic Researches, vol. VI).

Shocking as it may be, it might not surprise those who are aware of Sikh rule in Kashmir, which was dubbed then as the poorest in the entire country by travellers.

“Everywhere the people were in the most abject condition, exorbitantly taxed by the Sikh government and subjected to every kind of extortion and oppression by its officers. The consequences of this system are the gradual depopulation of the country.”

Contemporary British veterinary surgeon, who travelled throughout Kashmir on his way to Bukhara, painted a painful portrait of Kashmir under Sikhs through his words. The Kashmiris, he said, were treated ‘little better than cattle’. In 1831 Victor Jacquemont, a French botanist and contemporary traveller to the valley, said the appearance of Srinagar was the ‘most miserable in the world…nowhere else in India are the masses as poor and denuded as they are in the Kashmir’. Godfrey Vigne, traveller to Kashmir in the 1830s, narrated of a similar fate.

‘Not a day passed whilst I was on the path to Kashmir, and even when travelling in the valley, that I did not see the bleached remains of some unfortunate wretch who has fallen a victim either to sickness or starvation.’

It is upon the sidelining or ignoring of real events like these that the now demotic and supremacist myth of Sikhs saving Hinduism is floated. A gradual reading of the historic unfolding over the years gives us a clear understanding that how myths like these are nothing but crude simplifications and vulgar exaggerations at the heavy expense of serious historiography. No single caste or community holds the exclusive prerogative to wear the badge of saviours of Hinduism. The safety, security and prosperity of Hinduism has been and is a collective effort. There is no “Assi Hindua Nu Bachaya Si”.

Sources:

Bilaspur Through Centuries – Capt. Shakti S. Chandel
A History Of Dasanani Naga Sanyasis

Kashmir In Conflict – Victoria Schofield Page Number 05
 

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1861::British Reward Scindhia (for fight against laxmibai)Control of Jhansi Fort.Jhansi city merged in Gwalior State

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1857::Maharaja Jayajirao Scindhia of Gwalior Supported British Troops and Fought against Rani Laxmi Bai & Tatya Tope

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@asaffronladoftherisingsun and others,

Guys can you please point some source about this where I can read about this particular support given by Scindia to Britishers.

Never knew about this till now, haven't read it anywhere.
 

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The "Dope Popes" 1st Edition:

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>be you Pope Stephen VI
>dig up previous pope’s body from his tomb and put him "on trial"
>call him a heretic and cut off 3 fingers of the body, strip his vestments, and invalidate everything Pope Boniface VI did

>bury him in unconsecrated ground then change your mind, dig him back up, and toss his body in the Tiber River

>Boniface VI’s body washes ashore and word gets around that Pope Stephen VI is performing "miracles".

Basically, their religion isn't so much adhering to the Gospel of Nonsense as much as it is a personality cult. Seems like the only supremacy and infallibility there was, wasn't of the religion or the book, but the Pope, "God's voice on Earth" :pound: :pound:

At least they weren't cucked like the current Popes.
 

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Another Myth that circulates is ‘Sikhs’ saved 22,000 Maratha Women who were captured by Afghan King Ahmad Shah Abdali after Marathas lost waπ in 1761. This is Again NOT true.

When the wαπ was over, next day the battle-field was examined by Anugpir Gosavi and Kashiraj under the instructions of Shuja-duala They discovered : 32 large heaps of coπpses when counted numbered 28 thousand

View attachment 115232

35 thousand were taken as prisoners and slαughtered brutαlly by the Durranis 8 thousand Maratha refugees and four hundred of the officer took shelter in Shuja-ud-daula's camp

75 thousand Marathas were kιlled and 22 thousand saved their lives by PAYING RANSOM. NOTE : 1) They paid ransom to free themselves 2) There is not mentioned that 22 thousand were Women and children 3) No record of Sikhs saved them.

View attachment 115233

In fact within four days of the Battle, the Peshwa himself arrived as far as Gwalior with a large force. Shah was anxious that the waπ might be renewed any moment Shah agreed to the proposal of Bapuji Mahadev & asked Yakub Ali Khan to proceed to Gwalior and bring Treaty of Peace

Personally with the Peshwa. The Shah decided to his country If Peace Treaty was signed then how come Sikhs fought waπ for Maratha Women. They were the ones who already paid the ransom for their release.

Source : The New History of Marathas by Sardesai.

The number of the total strength varies in another book, which is more precise The Book of Manoj Dani have mentioned the total strength was 50,000 to 60000 Maximum casualties between 20,000 to 35000

But the fact remains the same. Sikhs have not saved the Maratha women

Guru Hargobind was taught SHASTRAVIDYA by two Rajputs namely Rao Sigara and Rao Jaita. His great grandson Guru Govind Singh the tenth Guru of Sikhs was taught SHASTRAVIDYA by Rao Bajjar Singh Rathore great grandson of Rao Mandan Ji Rathore. And later Guru Govinds kids were taught by Rai Alam Singh Chauhan who till today is considered as one of the finest generals to have ever lead Sikhs.

Meanwhile...

 

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it's a myth that rajputs used to have numbers. Most of this come from muslim sources who try to exaggerate things to show them all mighty powerful.
Only few time rajputs manage to field substantial numbers & that to when one clan try to expand on the expense of other or when few of them were united against ola-hu-uber!...it was either suicide cavalry charges in open fields ( Rathores were famous for it ) or a retreat to fortified position in hills.
Turks had a decisive advantage of steppe nomadic warfare specially horse archers & Central asian horse breeds were better period... combined that with call for jihad, it's a disaster.
Rajputs usually tried to force them to close combat & whenever that happened...Turks, afghans, arabs were usually routed almost every time.
civfanatic from historum... did some number crunching from muslim records to estimate Ghurid forces size.


Regarding numbers.



Prithviraj himself was no Saint either. He didn't help when Ghurid try to invade Gujarat.
where turks & Afghans were hammered to death by coilation of rajputs...Chaulukyas , Chauhans of Nadol jalor & parmars of Abu.

Virendra Singh Rathore did a video on this clearing some myth including jaichand being a traitor, love stories of Prithviraj.
Ghurid being spared 17 times ( a myth ). He was spared only once.
I mean how many people know that Ghurid payed tribute to chahuans of delhi for some time.
Of course Prithviraj was no saint...

He had no dearth of beauties in his "अंतः पुर" (Rajput version of harem)... still he lost one of his most able general "चण्ड पुंडीर" in a bid to capture samyukta(daughter of Jaichand)... "चण्ड पुंडीर" was the governor of the Punjab portion of Prithviraj's domain... this had a negative impact on the psyche of Pundir Rajputs who were dominant in Punjab & of course further anatagonised Jaichand

Between 1191 & 1192 he himself got killed another of his general "कैमास" bcoz the latter had a secret affair with Prithviraj's favourite concubine "कर्नाटकी"

& not many know this... the victor of 1st battle of Tarain was "Govindraja Tomar"... who was representing Prithviraj on battlefield

In the 2nd battle of Tarain... After the killing of "Govindraja Tomar" & "Pajjawan Rai"(Ruler of Amber)... 2 of the largest allied forces of Chauhans were routed & the result was known to all

One more thing that costed dearly... "the tradition of fighting between sunrise & sunset" as per Mahabharat. Ghurids were not bound by those rules... they attacked in early morning hours & caught the Rajput forces Off-guard... rest is history


Above is based on original "Prithviraj Raso" by Chand Bardai... sorry I don't believe Mullah sources.
 

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Of course Prithviraj was no saint...

He had no dearth of beauties in his "अंतः पुर" (Rajput version of harem)... still he lost one of his most able general "चण्ड पुंडीर" in a bid to capture samyukta(daughter of Jaichand)... "चण्ड पुंडीर" was the governor of the Punjab portion of Prithviraj's domain... this had a negative impact on the psyche of Pundir Rajputs who were dominant in Punjab & of course further anatagonised Jaichand

Between 1191 & 1192 he himself got killed another of his general "कैमास" bcoz the latter had a secret affair with Prithviraj's favourite concubine "कर्नाटकी"

& not many know this... the victor of 1st battle of Tarain was "Govindraja Tomar"... who was representing Prithviraj on battlefield

In the 2nd battle of Tarain... After the killing of "Govindraja Tomar" & "Pajjawan Rai"(Ruler of Amber)... 2 of the largest allied forces of Chauhans were routed & the result was known to all

One more thing that costed dearly... "the tradition of fighting between sunrise & sunset" as per Mahabharat. Ghurids were not bound by those rules... they attacked in early morning hours & caught the Rajput forces Off-guard... rest is history


Above is based on original "Prithviraj Raso" by Chand Bardai... sorry I don't believe Mullah sources.
Forget about battle of tarain.
Within 100 years ala ud din raided Madurai in tamil nadu in year 1311 and they almost raided whole of Indian subcontinent and they encountered almost no resistance at all except in orissa and assam.vijayanagar empire came afterwards
we need to question ourselves that why their almost no resistance foreign invader got inside Indian subcontinent untill Chhatrapati Shivaji and Guru Gobind singh came in the scene
 

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Forget about battle of tarain.
Within 100 years ala ud din raided Madurai in tamil nadu in year 1311 and they almost raided whole of Indian subcontinent and they encountered almost no resistance at all except in orissa and assam.vijayanagar empire came afterwards
we need to question ourselves that why their almost no resistance foreign invader got inside Indian subcontinent untill Chhatrapati Shivaji and Guru Gobind singh came in the scene
More than any other, the Vijayanagar Empire was the epitome of resistance. It remains, to my knowledge, the only kingdom set up explicitly to protect Hinduism/Hindus/Dharma and for no other reason.
 

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More than any other, the Vijayanagar Empire was the epitome of resistance. It remains, to my knowledge, the only kingdom set up explicitly to protect Hinduism/Hindus/Dharma and for no other reason.
They were, eventually even they Cucked out, you could say the Vijayanagar didn't lose the battle of Talikota, but rather it imploded from within due to its cuckedness (read Gilani biradar)
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But there is a interesting story I read sometime ago, don't remember where, Harihara Raya and Bukka Raya after choosing Hampi as their capital city, consulted an astrologer, who predicted that the Vijayanagar will bring Glory and Fame to Bharatvarsh worldwide, it's rulers and subjects will gain immense wealth, but the empire will never reach its zenith and will crumble after 300 years or so (I'm paraphrasing but it was something along those lines)
Which precisely happened


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Found it

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