From Brampton to Bangladesh, anti-Hindu hate is all too real

[Son of Govinda]

Don't forget about Ashoka.

He was a Buddhist who only united the entire subcontinent.

And I'm aware that he converted after his conquest, but he was still known to be vicious towards idolaters and those who typically went against Buddhism. One can clearly see that if a significant portion of India were still under Hindu rule, he'd still conquer it all the same. This whole idea of pacifism among Buddhist rulers is really a myth in itself.

 

[devgupt]

There have been many Buddhist kings who fought and built large empires- Kushans , Palas

 

[aerokan]

As long as some castes are considered superior or inferior to others, there were will inevitably be discrimination. The caste system is inherently flawed in this respect; stratification invariably leads to discrimination. One leads to the other.

Practice of ahimsa led to the downfall of which empire exactly?

Which existing or surviving system is exactly flawless? None. The design of caste system is made considering every aspect. One important aspect is human physcology. If not caste, humans will always find something or the other to discriminate against each other. religion, race, nationality etc are few of them. Any good school of design doesn't teach the students to get the best design. A good school teaches optimal design. Caste system is a product made to keep the survival of civilization at higher mathametical probabilities. Discrimination is an effect of dilution by human nature in the civilizational progress. It will auto correct itself slowly when the survival itself is at threat. On the other hand, caste system ensures that wherever a person goes, he/she gets assimilated into the local units faster to ensure the survival. Each local unit comprises of all kinds of divisons. Assume a nation or a country or a continent consisted of federated self sustaining units joining and assimilating the remains of a destroyed unit into another unit very fast without creating too much disturbance. We both are playing our roles in the self-sustainable robust design process. That's the simple truth.

Ashoka belongs to mauryan empire and the fall of his empire was inevitable after he abandoned a strong defence of the country for peace after seeing too much violence. He was a great administrator and i like that guy but sadly he couldn't see the inevitability in the outcome of his actions.

 

[aerokan]

Unfortunately a few simple facts shatter that view into pieces. One such fact is that the greatest emperor of Classical India was a Buddhist, Harshavardhan, who in a single lifetime defeated most of the states of North India and forged an empire rivaling that of the Guptas. Another such fact is that in the 8th century C.E. an alliance of Gurjars and Chalukyas decisively defeated the Arabs in Rajasthan, thus confining them to the region of Sindh indefinitely. I'm assuming they achieved this feat through arms and not through ahimsa.

There are many reasons why India later succumbed to Turkic invasions, but 'ahimsa', 'cowardliness', 'chicken-heartedness', and 'vegetarianism' are not among them.

Harshavardhan was a buddhist convert too at a later stage after conquering. His empire ended after him whatever the reason. Chalukyas are not buddhists in my knowledge. Ashoka's empire ended fast after him too. All of them forgot the basics of keeping the country intact. Shunning violence is not the answer to excessive violence. It reminds me of a story. I will tell u the moral of that story in short. A snake should not bite everyone and scare people. But if the snake stops even hissing, it will end up dead very fast.

 

[aerokan]

That is a wrong analogy. Does the network admin say they will not drink the same water as system admin OT security guy? Do they call them untouchable. Not eat with them?

Wrong analogy. network admin and security guys have different roles and different levels of access. Those who think caste system by design is an ill, just ask yourself one question. Can we eliminate political class, can we eliminate higher powers to the president? can we eliminate special powers to army and defence? Army has different powers and courts have different powers and so as with beurocrats. Each can hold other hostage depending on the situation they are in. This is nothing but the caste system. Examine the case of pakistan army. They hold the rest of systems hostage for various reasons. That is caste discrimination. We have to try to avoid pakistani type caste discriminations.. not eliminate entire social structure because we can't see properly. As the saying goes "Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder"