F-35 Joint Strike Fighter

[StealthFlanker]

Do not worry I am already satisfied enough with what I have shown here in regards to 3 user accounts in one forum. Too bad the admin at f-16.net did not delete the old cached search results showing that there was once an AESA radar calculator thread on f-16.net that now suddenly does not exist anymore, but a similar related thread like that exists in the archived key-aero threads which was made by you but no one is interested in paying a subscription for. I do not give a shit about all the accounts you have at other forums, what I am interested is in why do you use multiple user accounts for a single forum? You seem a little flustered so as I said many times before can you stay with one thread response instead of 2.

Why are you keep lying about thread deletion? are you so stupid that you can't use Google?
the AESA thread is still there
http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=53417&start=30
https://www.key.aero/forum/modern-military-aviation/145305-aesa-radar-range-calculator
I am not flustered, I am angry because either that you are so dumb that you can't use Google or you lie intentionally to make people think you are a victim.
I don't use multiple accounts in one forum, I use multiple usernames in multiple forums. If I feel the need to hide then there is no way I told you what account I use in which forum at the start. For the records, the original stealthflanker in keyaero,secretproject,f-16.net isn't me, I don't expect you to believe that, but knowing you, I can be sure you will harass him and I don't want him to think I made username same as him to stole his identity.
If garrya was me, then he won't have to ask me in private message to promote his own blog.

Kh-58ushke is an old missile introduced back in 2007 that was already created before AARGM-ER decided on what engine it will use. I do not feel that bad at how close the specs will be even if supposedly AARGM-ER with end results does happen to have a slightly faster speed, with slighlty smaller size dimensions with a little more range than the kh-58..

Kh-58ushke you see at MASK is a mock up, have you seen any operational aircraft loaded with folded fin Kh-58

Wait so you really do not think that what a university discovered and created would not be shared with companies like Roscosmos, NPO or any of their companies that makes these missiles? Do you want me to show you that entire math formula again where the missile that is downsized 1/5 gets back to its original thrust with the copper additive discovery of 500% with 5 times the fuel consumption? December 2018 is when an announcement was made of fittiing internal kinzhal, and 2 weeks ago there was an announcement that the ammunition was created but yet to have a test flight. That is what my entire thread said until the admin came in there crying because someone has a different interest from his. You know the same admin that was crying about a 100km air to ground missile with Gargean on a ka-52 alligator while I later responded that there are also sources of 100km+ missiles on the katran that planned to be fitted, and since than I was on his shit list. I am also finding it pretty odd that a username key stroke aero(account at secret projects which I am assuming he is also an admin at key aero) was browsing my photonic integrated thread(out of all threads i created at key aero he deleted the photonic thread) with overscan(caught him multiple times) and a user with 3 user accounts on f-16.net being you as Ronny(did you delete the username stealthflanker as well at secret projects?) But too bad I have not taken screenshots of this abnormal behavior that is more abnormal than Xanderscrew having to make 5-10 reaction face images on responses to other user at f-16.net.I am starting to also wonder why you are defending the admin that much as well. Also Rafael has not proved their missile to be the same as the iskander or kinzhal but more closer to the kh-15 missile.Your just feeling a little angry that I ask for where do you get the numbers?

There is a long time between what discovered in the labs and what can be used in production, and when a new missile being developed there are many requirements such as reliability and costs, they don't jump at the best and newest technologies available at the development stage in a lab for that. And when you increase the fuel burn rate by 5 times, you will shorten the burn time by the same amount, if the original range is 500 km, does that mean the new range is 100 km. Think.
I didn't get angry because you ask for the source of the number, I get angry because your bias can't be reason with. You have no issue believing that a recent lab discovery by a Russian university will be used by a different Russian company for their new missile even though there is no connection between the two and there is no evident that they sign a technology share agreement. But when Rafael introduces a new missile that has exact same shape, dimension, booster as a missile they started to produce for testing since 7 years ago, you refuse to believe that their new missile will have the similar characteristics to the old one. You didn't get the ban because people have different interest from you, you got the ban because what you said are stupid and you spamming the same bull crap again regardless of the correction people have done for you. It is really telling that even Gargean being a Russian weapon fan can't stand you.

 

[asianobserve]

Ignore. You don't have to counter every preposterous claim out there.

 

[StealthFlanker]

do not take it personally, i will tell you a little bit about me, I am Latin American, but I live in Asia, married to an Asian, I used to participate in J-20s thread, is it because I like it? to be honest i do not like it, but since I live in Asia obviously is one concern people have where we live.

I am an Engineer, environmental engineer, with Computer aided design skills, but working as a language instructor sadly.

I didn't know your history with Deino I won't comment on that, but Panzerfeist1 is notorious for making these kind of post. I don't think he is banned because he has the conflict history with someone, he is banned because he don't have common knowledge and his spamming

Ignore. You don't have to counter every preposterous claim out there.

I would love to do that, but then he keeps spread lie and spamming nonstop until this forum become unreadable

 

[panzerfeist1]

For the records, the original stealthflanker in keyaero,secretproject,f-16.net isn't me, I don't expect you to believe that,

I dont expect anyone to believe you here anymore anyways. Your entire charade is like this video here of your stubbornness. http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=53466 So you magically believe that out of all the stealthflankers out there that this special stealthflanker is different from the one at russia defense net, key aero, secretprojects and among others. Oh come on just how gullible do you think everyone here is to go along with that? Maybe the are some users like that blond geisha in that video that can help you go along with different stories.

Kh-58ushke you see at MASK is a mock up, have you seen any operational aircraft loaded with folded fin Kh-58

like the ARRGM-ER that was presented at 2018?

There is a long time between what discovered in the labs and what can be used in production, and when a new missile being developed there are many requirements such as reliability and costs, they don't jump at the best and newest technologies available at the development stage in a lab for that. And when you increase the fuel burn rate by 5 times, you will shorten the burn time by the same amount, if the original range is 500 km, does that mean the new range is 100 km. Think.
I didn't get angry because you ask for the source of the number, I get angry because your bias can't be reason with. You have no issue believing that a recent lab discovery by a Russian university will be used by a different Russian company for their new missile even though there is no connection between the two and there is no evident that they sign a technology share agreement. But when Rafael introduces a new missile that has exact same shape, dimension, booster as a missile they started to produce for testing since 7 years ago, you refuse to believe that their new missile will have the similar characteristics to the old one. You didn't get the ban because people have different interest from you, you got the ban because what you said are stupid and you spamming the same bull crap again regardless of the correction people have done for you. It is really telling that even Gargean being a Russian weapon fan can't stand you.

What is released to the public as a news source can be old information. There is a possibility that the copper additives could have been added to the newest ammunition before making another discovery they have yet to disclose to the public.They have not disclosed the special fuel they use for the Zircon or even the latest onyx missile. But they have been consistent with the time of development with the missile, not like some hypersonic missiles that you believe from the two earliest articles that destroyed their own credibility from bad journalism.

I would love to do that, but then he keeps spread lie and spamming nonstop until this forum become unreadable

Do you want me present screenshots of you making 20+ responses like a lunatic from those archived links at key aero when I made that photonic integrated thread?

@MiG-29SMT

If you have not noticed by now with me, you and zero-one conversation with Garrya, among so many other examples he argues just for the sake of arguing. For example he even believes that everyone that the stealth flanker at one forum is a brand new guy from the rest of the other stealthflankers.

I do not know if his brain short-circuits at frequent intervals from time to time. But I have shown him a chart where plasma conditions reduce RCS being those altitudes where the Zircon cruises at. And he brings up shit like ohhh it enhances RCS as well in which the graph clearly shows that those effects are done at different altitudes than the one the Zircon cruises at. the majority of the time.

 

[panzerfeist1]

I cannot edit my old answer so sorry for the hypocrisy of making 2 responses instead of one. But one of the interesting things you have mentioned was garrya's blog. In otherwords I believe that you have set your own noose for even mentioning that blog to the last people on earth right now you would want to give that info to.

I am sure that you remember how quite suspicious it was that your edited quora answer post (if that was not editted I am very sure it would have been december 14) december 16 2018 post was only 2 days later of garrya's discovery on f-16.net saying,"thats him," thats him" like made a discovery. In fact both seem like shocked responses.

Even if you BS that eloise is your only connection at f-16.net and came up with an excuse that eloise saw Garrya's responses at f-16.net to make that edited answer 2 days later. There is more.

I mean isnt it very odd that most of those answers of kim lee ryo show alot of image references to what Garrya put in his blog? In fact that 3 of those links in kim lee ryo's quora answer's connect to the topics Garrya put in his blog? Rather if you still feel like vehemently denying this to save face, I already have the irrefutable information of proof that I need myself. You admitted your eloise at f-16.net and kim lee ryo at quora but garrya another user at f-16.net seems to have quite the connection to kim lee ryo for posting a bunch of his blog information and the dates of kim lee ryo and garrya's shock of discovery date of a certain user.

Lets pretend that you are not in fact the stealthflanker that eloise is such a very big fan of(it made me believe enough that he was stealthflankers lover at f-16.net) from his response of greetings from indonesia post at f-16.net. Isnt it quite odd that at the secretprojects forum that either at the tundra satellite thread and t-14 armata thread that stealthflanker immediately jumps in after Ronny (that being you)has a couple of responses with me with dates not that far apart either?

Also

stealthflankers account was created 2 days ago when he joined before eloise made that AESA radar calculator thread for him. And he is the one that always makes that thread at other forums from time to time. Seeing him jump to Ronny's side twice at secretprojects, eloise saying he is his big fan of him at the thread greetings from indonesia and making a thread that he usually posts at other forums himself since he made his account 2 days ago for him. Also why did you use his username here if your not in fact the other stealthflankers? For example I tried to create 2nd user account at secretprojects with the username garrya with a different email(i should have spoofed my mac and ip address) and the profile picture of either pierre sprey or the indian pilot that supposedly shot down the pak-16(I knew that claim pissed you off at a bunch of forums) but the admin told me nice try panzerfeist.

I will drop this identity shit now today and make no reference of it anymore to get back to the topic of this thread, so to make up for it here is an answer link I made about the F-35's weapons along with the Su-57s which is also thanks to your information as well. https://qr.ae/pNtlca

 

[StealthFlanker]

I dont expect anyone to believe you here anymore anyways. Your entire charade is like this video here of your stubbornness. http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=53466 So you magically believe that out of all the stealthflankers out there that this special stealthflanker is different from the one at russia defense net, key aero, secretprojects and among others. Oh come on just how gullible do you think everyone here is to go along with that? Maybe the are some users like that blond geisha in that video that can help you go along with different stories.

If I wanted to hide, then in F-16.net I wouldn't have told you that mig-31 in keyaero is me, in Spacebattle, I wouldn't have told you my account in F-16.net is eloise and mig-31 in keyaero, and in secretpoject I wouldn't have told you about my quora along with all of the above. All 3 times, I just straight tell you who I am. If I'm original stealthflanker, it is logically easier for me to say that is me and deny connection with other accounts with different names. But I said stealthflanker in any others forum isn't me because he isn't me. I don't need you to believe, but if he read this thread don't want him to think I pretend to be him.

I cannot edit my old answer so sorry for the hypocrisy of making 2 responses instead of one. But one of the interesting things you have mentioned was garrya's blog. In otherwords I believe that you have set your own noose for even mentioning that blog to the last people on earth right now you would want to give that info to.

I am sure that you remember how quite suspicious it was that your edited quora answer post (if that was not editted I am very sure it would have been december 14) december 16 2018 post was only 2 days later of garrya's discovery on f-16.net saying,"thats him," thats him" like made a discovery. In fact both seem like shocked responses.

Even if you BS that eloise is your only connection at f-16.net and came up with an excuse that eloise saw Garrya's responses at f-16.net to make that edited answer 2 days later. There is more.

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I mean isnt it very odd that most of those answers of kim lee ryo show alot of image references to what Garrya put in his blog? In fact that 3 of those links in kim lee ryo's quora answer's connect to the topics Garrya put in his blog? Rather if you still feel like vehemently denying this to save face, I already have the irrefutable information of proof that I need myself. You admitted your eloise at f-16.net and kim lee ryo at quora but garrya another user at f-16.net seems to have quite the connection to kim lee ryo for posting a bunch of his blog information and the dates of kim lee ryo and garrya's shock of discovery date of a certain user

It isn't odd, I told you, in 2017, when garrya made his blog, he direct message me and asked me to promote his blog for him, and I accepted because it saves me the time when I have to explain something to people. So instead of looking through countless sites looking for a reference or typing fuck load of words, I just go to his blog to see if he had a photo or some explanation that I have in mind but too lazy to write down, it is quicker to Ctrl+C

and why did you photoshop that comment from garrya?, I search f-35 vs aam topic and and this is the realcomment

.http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=55096

And I reference not only garrya but sprstdlyscottsmn aerodynamic comparison and Dragon029 busting myth series

Lets pretend that you are not in fact the stealthflanker that eloise is such a very big fan of(it made me believe enough that he was stealthflankers lover at f-16.net) from his response of greetings from indonesia post at f-16.net. Isnt it quite odd that at the secretprojects forum that either at the tundra satellite thread and t-14 armata thread that stealthflanker immediately jumps in after Ronny (that being you)has a couple of responses with me with dates not that far apart either?

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stealthflankers account was created 2 days ago when he joined before eloise made that AESA radar calculator thread for him. And he is the one that always makes that thread at other forums from time to time. Seeing him jump to Ronny's side twice at secretprojects, eloise saying he is his big fan of him at the thread greetings from indonesia and making a thread that he usually posts at other forums himself since he made his account 2 days ago for him. Also why did you use his username here if your not in fact the other stealthflankers? For example I tried to create 2nd user account at secretprojects with the username garrya with a different email(i should have spoofed my mac and ip address) and the profile picture of either pierre sprey or the indian pilot that supposedly shot down the pak-16(I knew that claim pissed you off at a bunch of forums) but the admin told me nice try panzerfeist.

For the record, stealthflanker in this forum (me) isn't the same person as the original stealthflanker in keyaero, f-16.net and secretproject. And yeah, I am a big fan of the original stealthflanker and his work, the same way I'm a big fan of sprstdlyscottsmn, Dragon029 and garrya. I used his name because of that
Unfortunately, after Keyaero moved to the new platform, all my previous PM there were lost, so I can't show you, but I remember I asked original stealthflanker in keyaero to join F-16.net as well.
In secretproject forum, the real stealthflanker isn't the only one jump to my defense, there are Nigelhg, bobbymike, Deino, GARGEAN as well. They didn't jump to my defense because they know me or they are me, they jump to my defense because what you say are dumb, what kind of person can't measure area?
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/tundra-satellite-system-capabilities.32791/
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/t-14-armata-new-gen-russian-tank.16341/page-7
I don't know how the admin at secretproject know about your fake account, can be your junk email and your IP address.

like the ARRGM-ER that was presented at 2018?

that what it is

What is released to the public as a news source can be old information. There is a possibility that the copper additives could have been added to the newest ammunition before making another discovery they have yet to disclose to the public.They have not disclosed the special fuel they use for the Zircon or even the latest onyx missile. But they have been consistent with the time of development with the missile, not like some hypersonic missiles that you believe from the two earliest articles that destroyed their own credibility from bad journalism.

This is why no one takes you seriously, and you keep getting the ban
When it is Russian science discovery, you will immediately think it is used or will be used in Russian newest weapon. You don't care if there are any connections or if the technologies have ever been demonstrated outside the lab. But if the weapons are from US or any other country, you will deny the capability even if it has been demonstrated in the past from the same company. If Rocks were made in Russia, I'm sure you can come up with an excuse for it to fly at Mach 10

 

[asianobserve]

F-35 stealth fighter intercept Russian military aircraft for first time

Norway’s new F-35 stealth fighter jets intercepted two Russian Tu-142 maritime reconnaissance and anti-submarine warfare (ASW) aircraft and one MiG-31 fighter jet flying in international airspace south of the so-called GIUK gap (Greenland-Iceland-UK), officials said.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/defenc...ian-military-aircraft-for-first-time.html/amp

 

[BON PLAN]

Pentagon wants more data from Lockheed Martin in exchange for F-35 performance-based logistics deal
https://www.janes.com/article/94724...nge-for-f-35-performance-based-logistics-deal

 

[BON PLAN]

IOC was annouced in 2016
IOT & E is now expected in 2021 at the earlier.
=> That bird is always on dev phase.

 

[asianobserve]

Norway's new F-35 filmed from Russian

 

[asianobserve]

Not bad for a plane still in IOC...

Middle East SAM Discovery Highlights F-35’S Evolving Role

Twelve F-35As deployed last year to the Middle East to support operations against the Islamic State group (ISIS), logging 150 weapons employed during about 7,300 hr. flown on 1,300 combat sorties, said Brig. Gen. David Abba, director of the Air Force’s F-35 integration office, speaking at the Mitchell Institute March 9. “The numbers were pretty remarkable,” Abba said.

Abba described an operational scenario that involved a mobile SAM system. The U.S. intelligence community normally tracks the locations of such systems as closely as possible, but in this case the mobile SAM had not been seen “in a while,” he said.

Meanwhile, two F-35As were en route to perform an unrelated mission when an indication of the missing, mobile SAM appeared on their cockpit displays, Abba said. The inference was that the F-35’s onboard sensors, such as the BAE Systems ASQ-239 electronic-warfare suite, detected and identified the threat. The pilots used the data to cue the radar-mapping mode of the F-35’s Northrop Grumman APG-81 active electronically scanned array radar to establish “targetable” coordinates for the SAM.

“We didn’t end up employing ordnance against that [threat], but it was fed back into the [command-and-control] structures in the intelligence community,” Abba explained.

Although the F-35 is not primarily an intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) aircraft, Abba described this latent F-35 capability as “drive-by ISR.”

https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/middle-east-sam-discovery-highlights-f-35s-evolving-role

 

[BON PLAN]

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...t-inside-jets-big-afterburner-problems-131102

After eighteen years of troubled and controversial development, the Lockheed F-35 Lightning stealth fighter may soon enter mass production, many of its bugs having been expensively squashed after delivery of an initial four-hundred “low-rate-of-initial-production” aircraft.

However, a June 2019 scoop by Defense News journalists Valerie Insinna, David Larter and Aaron Mehta has revealed thirteen serious Category-1 flaws remain.

Officially, all models of the F-35 have a maximum speed of Mach 1.6, though such speeds are rarely attained in routine operations. Like all but a few jet fighters, the F-35 relies on afterburners to sustain supersonic speeds. These bypass the jet’s turbine to inject fuel directly into the tailpipe, producing a huge boost in speed at the expense of gulping fuel and causing a brilliant plume of hot exhaust to trail behind the fighter

However, the documents obtained by Defense News reported that heat from afterburner exhaust caused an F-35B to experience “bubbling and blistering” of its radar-absorbent materials (RAM) and of its horizontal tail surfaces and boom.

Heat damage also “compromised the structural integrity” of the horizontal tail and boom of an F-35C. Sensitive sensors buried inside the skin of the rear tail surfaces could also have proven susceptible to damage.

Since the incident, the Marines have instituted a policy requiring F-35B pilots not to engage afterburners for more than eighty seconds cumulatively at Mach 1.3, or forty seconds at Mach 1.4. Navy F-35C pilots have fifty seconds at Mach 1.3 to ration.

To “reset” the afterburner allowance, they must then allow three minutes non-afterburning flight for the tail area to cool down to avert damage.

Though looser restrictions on safe afterburner usage exist for other jets, the document apparently acknowledges the restrictions imposed on the F-35B and C are “not practical/observable in operationally relevant scenarios.

After all, a pilot in a combat situation would likely struggle to count exactly how many seconds the afterburners have been cumulatively engaged while attempting to manage the many other tasks demanding his or her attention.

An F-35 pilot might still choose to exceed afterburner limits during an urgent combat scenario, accepting the risk that the plane might sustain “degradation of [stealth], damage to antennas, and/or significant horizontal tail damage.” However, this could then result in the jet being removed from operations while it awaits depot-level maintenance, which could be especially problematic for carrier-based squadrons.

The Pentagon and Lockheed Martin, however, maintain the problem is minor—noting that the damage occurred only near the F-35’s maximum altitude, and insisting that since the incidents in 2011 the afterburner damage has never been replicated despite multiple attempts.

F-35 program lead George Ulmer characterized the tests as being performed at the “highest extremes of flight testing conditions that are unlikely replicated in operational scenarios.”

Furthermore, new thermal coatings first introduced on Lot 8 of the F-35s have reduced the risk of thermal damage. However, Ullmer also admits the coating hasn’t eliminated the problem, which is deemed too rare to warrant further correction.

This last caveat, combined with the fact that the restrictions on afterburner-usage apparently still remain in effect, strike a discordant note to the confidence that the afterburner damages reported in 2011 were merely freak incidents.

Though rare, pilots may resort to sustained afterburners in scenarios, such as attempting to intercept bombers or missiles racing towards an aircraft carrier—an especially vital job for carrier-based fighters.

An F-35 seeking to evade incoming enemy fighters or anti-aircraft missile might also resort to sustained afterburners. Stealth aircraft are by no means completely undetectable, and part of the way Lightning pilots will seek to manage the threat posed by more agile incoming fighters is by keeping their distance.

 

[fire starter]

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...t-inside-jets-big-afterburner-problems-131102

After eighteen years of troubled and controversial development, the Lockheed F-35 Lightning stealth fighter may soon enter mass production, many of its bugs having been expensively squashed after delivery of an initial four-hundred “low-rate-of-initial-production” aircraft.

However, a June 2019 scoop by Defense News journalists Valerie Insinna, David Larter and Aaron Mehta has revealed thirteen serious Category-1 flaws remain.

Officially, all models of the F-35 have a maximum speed of Mach 1.6, though such speeds are rarely attained in routine operations. Like all but a few jet fighters, the F-35 relies on afterburners to sustain supersonic speeds. These bypass the jet’s turbine to inject fuel directly into the tailpipe, producing a huge boost in speed at the expense of gulping fuel and causing a brilliant plume of hot exhaust to trail behind the fighter

However, the documents obtained by Defense News reported that heat from afterburner exhaust caused an F-35B to experience “bubbling and blistering” of its radar-absorbent materials (RAM) and of its horizontal tail surfaces and boom.

Heat damage also “compromised the structural integrity” of the horizontal tail and boom of an F-35C. Sensitive sensors buried inside the skin of the rear tail surfaces could also have proven susceptible to damage.

Since the incident, the Marines have instituted a policy requiring F-35B pilots not to engage afterburners for more than eighty seconds cumulatively at Mach 1.3, or forty seconds at Mach 1.4. Navy F-35C pilots have fifty seconds at Mach 1.3 to ration.

To “reset” the afterburner allowance, they must then allow three minutes non-afterburning flight for the tail area to cool down to avert damage.

Though looser restrictions on safe afterburner usage exist for other jets, the document apparently acknowledges the restrictions imposed on the F-35B and C are “not practical/observable in operationally relevant scenarios.

After all, a pilot in a combat situation would likely struggle to count exactly how many seconds the afterburners have been cumulatively engaged while attempting to manage the many other tasks demanding his or her attention.

An F-35 pilot might still choose to exceed afterburner limits during an urgent combat scenario, accepting the risk that the plane might sustain “degradation of [stealth], damage to antennas, and/or significant horizontal tail damage.” However, this could then result in the jet being removed from operations while it awaits depot-level maintenance, which could be especially problematic for carrier-based squadrons.

The Pentagon and Lockheed Martin, however, maintain the problem is minor—noting that the damage occurred only near the F-35’s maximum altitude, and insisting that since the incidents in 2011 the afterburner damage has never been replicated despite multiple attempts.

F-35 program lead George Ulmer characterized the tests as being performed at the “highest extremes of flight testing conditions that are unlikely replicated in operational scenarios.”

Furthermore, new thermal coatings first introduced on Lot 8 of the F-35s have reduced the risk of thermal damage. However, Ullmer also admits the coating hasn’t eliminated the problem, which is deemed too rare to warrant further correction.

This last caveat, combined with the fact that the restrictions on afterburner-usage apparently still remain in effect, strike a discordant note to the confidence that the afterburner damages reported in 2011 were merely freak incidents.

Though rare, pilots may resort to sustained afterburners in scenarios, such as attempting to intercept bombers or missiles racing towards an aircraft carrier—an especially vital job for carrier-based fighters.

An F-35 seeking to evade incoming enemy fighters or anti-aircraft missile might also resort to sustained afterburners. Stealth aircraft are by no means completely undetectable, and part of the way Lightning pilots will seek to manage the threat posed by more agile incoming fighters is by keeping their distance.

there are bugs in software it's not a big deal . recently foc tejas also got delayed due to bug so now u can imagine the situation in f35.

 

[BON PLAN]

there are bugs in software it's not a big deal . recently foc tejas also got delayed due to bug so now u can imagine the situation in f35.

There are bugs in software FOR YEARS !
The problem is not to debug : it's so classical. The real problem is that 14 years after first preserial flight, and 500 units produced, the soft is always on debug status, and that for one Pb solved, another is found.

 

[Bhurki]

the Lockheed F-35 Lightning stealth fighter may soon enter mass production

An important distinction to make is that 'mass production' here refers to the so called FRP(169 aircraft).

By all measures, the 134 F35 produced last year and the 141 aimed for this year mean the 'mass production' is already on, and is being increased gradually to the final 169 number in next 2 years and maybe more beyond (180) if more FMS contracts are signed.

 

[asianobserve]

Pentagon and Lockheed Martin in fight over F-35 FRACAS data, says former programme official
https://www.janes.com/article/94828...35-fracas-data-says-former-programme-official

 

[BON PLAN]

nothing new under the sun.

F-35’s $17 Billion Diagnostic System Rife With Flaws, GAO Says

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...on-diagnostic-system-rife-with-flaws-gao-says

crews experienced as many as 400 “issues per week related to inaccurate or missing electronic records,”

Attention long focused on the plane’s $428 billion acquisition program and on setbacks in development and production. But now the cost of sustaining the planes -- estimated at about $1.2 trillion over 66 years -- is what most worries military officials and lawmakers

Lockheed issued three upgrades but they “continue to report significant challenges” that are affecting day-to-day F-35 operations, the agency said.

The maintenance crews “expressed concern about data integrity issues” and “told us that electronic records are frequently incorrect, corrupt or missing

Dubbed “ODIN,” after the father of the god Thor in Norse mythology, the first of the new equipment is supposed to be delivered in September, with initial use in late 2021. It’s intended to be fully operational by December 2022 for all F-35 squadrons, Lieutenant General Eric Fick, the F-35 program manager, told an industry conference on March 4.
That’s if the program stays on schedule, which has been a rarity for the almost 20-year effort to develop, produce and deploy the F-35.

 

[Atcjurvin]

nothing new under the sun.

F-35’s $17 Billion Diagnostic System Rife With Flaws, GAO Says

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...on-diagnostic-system-rife-with-flaws-gao-says

crews experienced as many as 400 “issues per week related to inaccurate or missing electronic records,”

Attention long focused on the plane’s $428 billion acquisition program and on setbacks in development and production. But now the cost of sustaining the planes -- estimated at about $1.2 trillion over 66 years -- is what most worries military officials and lawmakers

Lockheed issued three upgrades but they “continue to report significant challenges” that are affecting day-to-day F-35 operations, the agency said.

The maintenance crews “expressed concern about data integrity issues” and “told us that electronic records are frequently incorrect, corrupt or missing

Dubbed “ODIN,” after the father of the god Thor in Norse mythology, the first of the new equipment is supposed to be delivered in September, with initial use in late 2021. It’s intended to be fully operational by December 2022 for all F-35 squadrons, Lieutenant General Eric Fick, the F-35 program manager, told an industry conference on March 4.
That’s if the program stays on schedule, which has been a rarity for the almost 20-year effort to develop, produce and deploy the F-35.

If this is the condition of f35 then we can imagine about the status of su57 and j20 maybe they are not sophisticated as f35.

 

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If this is the condition of f35 then we can imagine about the status of su57 and j20 maybe they are not sophisticated as f35.

Not sure.
The F35 suffer from two problems :
It was studied for 3 differents services, with huges compromises specially due to B model. I'm quite sure that a dedicated C model, without the B, would have been better. But it's not the main problem.

The other is that LM wanted from the begining a highly sophisticated weapon system, in a too short time. The result is an increasingly complex softwar, studied by too many teams, and with a lot a issues. (if it takes 10 days for a tiler to tile a bathroom, 10 tilers will not do quality work in one day. Same for a big software).
The way followed to improve, block after block, the F16 for exemple was less risky and mode potent. It was the same model used for EF, Gripen, Rafale, and probably Su57 and J20.

 

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C variant with its larger wing looks really pretty.
Its almost unbelievable to think that it carries more than 9 tons of fuel..
For comparison, thats almost the same as an MKI and that has 2 huge, gas guzzling Al31.

How's that unbelievable, larger wings would mean, you can carry more fuel.