Elite Australian troops killed 39 Afghan civilians amid a culture of 'blood lust : Report

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There is "credible evidence" that Australian elite soldiers unlawfully killed 39 people during the Afghan war, a long-awaited report has found.


The Australian Defence Force (ADF) has released findings from a four-year inquiry into misconduct by its forces.
It said 19 current or ex-special forces soldiers should be investigated by police over killings of "prisoners, farmers or civilians" in 2009-13.
The ADF blamed crimes on an unchecked "warrior culture" among some soldiers.
The inquiry - conducted by Maj Gen Justice Paul Brereton - conducted interviews with more than 400 witnesses. It also found evidence that:
  • Junior soldiers were told to get their first kill by shooting prisoners, in a practice known as "blooding"
  • Weapons and other items were planted near Afghan bodies to cover up crimes
  • An additional two incidents could constitute a war crime of "cruel treatment"
Afghanistan said it had been assured by Australia that it was committed to "ensuring justice".

Samantha Crompvoets, an academic who carried out the initial research into the incidents, told the BBC they were "deliberate, repeated and targeted war crimes" and said she felt vindicated by the report.
Australia has had forces in Afghanistan since 2002, following the overthrow of the Taliban, as part of a US-led coalition. Initially the international forces' role was to train Afghan troops but they became increasingly involved in fighting insurgents.

What did the report find?

It said 25 special forces soldiers had taken part in unlawful killings directly or as "accessories", across 23 separate incidents.
It recommended that 36 incidents in total be investigated by federal police.
ADF chief Gen Angus Campbell said none of the incidents could be "described as being in the heat of battle".
"None were alleged to have occurred in circumstances in which the intent of the perpetrator was unclear, confused or mistaken," he told reporters on Thursday.

Gen Campbell said there was alarming evidence that some Special Air Service (SAS) soldiers had taken "the law into their own hands".
"The report notes that the distorted culture was embraced and amplified by some experienced, charismatic and influential non-commissioned officers and their proteges, who sought to fuse military excellence with ego, elitism and entitlement," he said.

The report said it would be a "gross distortion" to blame senior ADF command, saying the crimes were "commenced... and concealed at the patrol commander level".
Dr Crompvoets said the incidents "involved in some instances very influential non-commissioned officers".
"Platoon commanders were encouraging or insisting junior soldiers execute prisoners to achieve their first kill, so it was that sort of pattern of behaviour of grooming these junior soldiers for, or initiating them into, the squadron - that's what was very disturbing," she told BBC World Service's Newsday programme.
The inquiry was conducted behind closed doors, meaning few details have been reported until now.

What's been the reaction?

Last week, PM Scott Morrison warned the report contained "difficult and hard news for Australians" about its special forces.
"It is the environment [within the ADF], it is the context, it is the rules, it is the culture and the command that sat around those things," he said. "And if we want to deal with the truth of this, we have to deal with the truth of that."

The office of Afghanistan's President Ashraf Ghani said Mr Morrison had phoned to express his "deepest sorrow" over the findings. The country's foreign ministry, quoted by AFP, said the incidents mentioned in the report were "unforgivable" but its publication was "an important step towards justice".

The Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission (AIHRC) welcomed the report but noted it had not established enough evidence to ensure criminal prosecution.
It said it was vital that this be sought and "adequate compensation" provided without delay.

"Only through a series of independent inquiries will we uncover the true extent of this disregard for Afghan life, which normalised murder, and resulted in war crimes," it said.
Elaine Pearson, from Human Rights Watch, told the BBC: "This is a vindication - this is an acknowledgement that these crimes occurred."

Dr Crompvoets said she had faced "huge resistance" when her initial report was leaked but had now been proved right.

"I was certainly criticised for being a female, a civilian, a feminist, that somehow I was trying to feminise defence," she said.

"It wasn't about me not understanding what it's like to be at war," she added. "It was quite evident there were fundamental things that had gone wrong."

The defence chief's language was as part of this story as the findings themselves. He started by apologising to the Afghan people for any wrongdoing, then told the Australian people they had the right to expect better from their special forces.

He used words like shameful, appalling and toxic when describing the actions of some troops and the culture in which they operated.

And it wasn't just that these alleged executions took place, it was the manner of impunity by which they happened. In fact, according to the report, there was an air of competitiveness within the special forces.

One moment stood out in Gen Campbell's address: when he described how some junior soldiers had allegedly been coerced to shoot unarmed civilians to get their "first kill" - a practice known as "blooding". He said that weapons and radios had then been allegedly planted to support claims that the victims had been enemies killed in action.

The public version of the report is highly redacted and we don't know details of specific incidents or specific individuals. But it has been enough to make for very uncomfortable reading for the military, the government and for the Australian public.

What happens next?
Last week, Mr Morrison said a special investigator would be appointed to consider prosecutions from information contained in the report.
Australian media reported that police investigations would be likely to take years, even before possible criminal trials.

Gen Campbell said one SAS squadron had been shut down, and it was the ADF's responsibility to "set things right".
The government said it would also establish an independent oversight panel to provide "accountability and transparency that sits outside of the ADF chain of command".
Australia maintains an operation of around 400 soldiers in Afghanistan as part ongoing peacekeeping efforts with the US and other allies.

Have other countries faced allegations?

Earlier this year, the International Criminal Court (ICC) began investigating alleged war crimes by the US and others in the Afghan conflict.
The actions of the Taliban, the Afghan government and US troops since May 2003 are expected to be examined.

A 2016 report from the ICC said there was a reasonable basis to believe the US military had committed torture at secret detention sites operated by the CIA.
The report also said it was reasonable to believe the Afghan government had tortured prisoners and the Taliban had committed war crimes such as the mass killing of civilians.

In Britain, the High Court is considering whether the UK failed to properly investigate allegations of unlawful killing by UK Special Forces.
And on Thursday, the AIHRC also called for the UK "to open an independent public inquiry to review and investigate the allegations of unlawful killings by UK Special Forces".

Last year, the BBC's Panorama programme revealed that the UK had failed to fully investigate credible evidence of a pattern of illegal killings carried out by British Special Forces.
"The US and UK, and other countries with an armed presence in Afghanistan [should] respond to these media reports, and to investigate their forces' participation, and leadership, of acts of violence against Afghan non-combatants," the AIHRC said in a statement.


 
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There is "credible evidence" that Australian elite soldiers unlawfully killed 39 people during the Afghan war, a long-awaited report has found.


The Australian Defence Force (ADF) has released findings from a four-year inquiry into misconduct by its forces.
It said 19 current or ex-special forces soldiers should be investigated by police over killings of "prisoners, farmers or civilians" in 2009-13.
The ADF blamed crimes on an unchecked "warrior culture" among some soldiers.
The inquiry - conducted by Maj Gen Justice Paul Brereton - conducted interviews with more than 400 witnesses. It also found evidence that:
  • Junior soldiers were told to get their first kill by shooting prisoners, in a practice known as "blooding"
  • Weapons and other items were planted near Afghan bodies to cover up crimes
  • An additional two incidents could constitute a war crime of "cruel treatment"
Afghanistan said it had been assured by Australia that it was committed to "ensuring justice".

Samantha Crompvoets, an academic who carried out the initial research into the incidents, told the BBC they were "deliberate, repeated and targeted war crimes" and said she felt vindicated by the report.
Australia has had forces in Afghanistan since 2002, following the overthrow of the Taliban, as part of a US-led coalition. Initially the international forces' role was to train Afghan troops but they became increasingly involved in fighting insurgents.

What did the report find?

It said 25 special forces soldiers had taken part in unlawful killings directly or as "accessories", across 23 separate incidents.
It recommended that 36 incidents in total be investigated by federal police.
ADF chief Gen Angus Campbell said none of the incidents could be "described as being in the heat of battle".
"None were alleged to have occurred in circumstances in which the intent of the perpetrator was unclear, confused or mistaken," he told reporters on Thursday.

Gen Campbell said there was alarming evidence that some Special Air Service (SAS) soldiers had taken "the law into their own hands".
"The report notes that the distorted culture was embraced and amplified by some experienced, charismatic and influential non-commissioned officers and their proteges, who sought to fuse military excellence with ego, elitism and entitlement," he said.

The report said it would be a "gross distortion" to blame senior ADF command, saying the crimes were "commenced... and concealed at the patrol commander level".
Dr Crompvoets said the incidents "involved in some instances very influential non-commissioned officers".
"Platoon commanders were encouraging or insisting junior soldiers execute prisoners to achieve their first kill, so it was that sort of pattern of behaviour of grooming these junior soldiers for, or initiating them into, the squadron - that's what was very disturbing," she told BBC World Service's Newsday programme.
The inquiry was conducted behind closed doors, meaning few details have been reported until now.

What's been the reaction?

Last week, PM Scott Morrison warned the report contained "difficult and hard news for Australians" about its special forces.
"It is the environment [within the ADF], it is the context, it is the rules, it is the culture and the command that sat around those things," he said. "And if we want to deal with the truth of this, we have to deal with the truth of that."

The office of Afghanistan's President Ashraf Ghani said Mr Morrison had phoned to express his "deepest sorrow" over the findings. The country's foreign ministry, quoted by AFP, said the incidents mentioned in the report were "unforgivable" but its publication was "an important step towards justice".

The Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission (AIHRC) welcomed the report but noted it had not established enough evidence to ensure criminal prosecution.
It said it was vital that this be sought and "adequate compensation" provided without delay.

"Only through a series of independent inquiries will we uncover the true extent of this disregard for Afghan life, which normalised murder, and resulted in war crimes," it said.
Elaine Pearson, from Human Rights Watch, told the BBC: "This is a vindication - this is an acknowledgement that these crimes occurred."

Dr Crompvoets said she had faced "huge resistance" when her initial report was leaked but had now been proved right.

"I was certainly criticised for being a female, a civilian, a feminist, that somehow I was trying to feminise defence," she said.

"It wasn't about me not understanding what it's like to be at war," she added. "It was quite evident there were fundamental things that had gone wrong."

The defence chief's language was as part of this story as the findings themselves. He started by apologising to the Afghan people for any wrongdoing, then told the Australian people they had the right to expect better from their special forces.

He used words like shameful, appalling and toxic when describing the actions of some troops and the culture in which they operated.

And it wasn't just that these alleged executions took place, it was the manner of impunity by which they happened. In fact, according to the report, there was an air of competitiveness within the special forces.

One moment stood out in Gen Campbell's address: when he described how some junior soldiers had allegedly been coerced to shoot unarmed civilians to get their "first kill" - a practice known as "blooding". He said that weapons and radios had then been allegedly planted to support claims that the victims had been enemies killed in action.

The public version of the report is highly redacted and we don't know details of specific incidents or specific individuals. But it has been enough to make for very uncomfortable reading for the military, the government and for the Australian public.

What happens next?
Last week, Mr Morrison said a special investigator would be appointed to consider prosecutions from information contained in the report.
Australian media reported that police investigations would be likely to take years, even before possible criminal trials.

Gen Campbell said one SAS squadron had been shut down, and it was the ADF's responsibility to "set things right".
The government said it would also establish an independent oversight panel to provide "accountability and transparency that sits outside of the ADF chain of command".
Australia maintains an operation of around 400 soldiers in Afghanistan as part ongoing peacekeeping efforts with the US and other allies.

Have other countries faced allegations?

Earlier this year, the International Criminal Court (ICC) began investigating alleged war crimes by the US and others in the Afghan conflict.
The actions of the Taliban, the Afghan government and US troops since May 2003 are expected to be examined.

A 2016 report from the ICC said there was a reasonable basis to believe the US military had committed torture at secret detention sites operated by the CIA.
The report also said it was reasonable to believe the Afghan government had tortured prisoners and the Taliban had committed war crimes such as the mass killing of civilians.

In Britain, the High Court is considering whether the UK failed to properly investigate allegations of unlawful killing by UK Special Forces.
And on Thursday, the AIHRC also called for the UK "to open an independent public inquiry to review and investigate the allegations of unlawful killings by UK Special Forces".

Last year, the BBC's Panorama programme revealed that the UK had failed to fully investigate credible evidence of a pattern of illegal killings carried out by British Special Forces.
"The US and UK, and other countries with an armed presence in Afghanistan [should] respond to these media reports, and to investigate their forces' participation, and leadership, of acts of violence against Afghan non-combatants," the AIHRC said in a statement.


What did people expect aren't they all the desendent of criminals anyways. Violence is in their blood.

All them are grade a racists.

Hope china sells them and shows them their aukaat in the future.
 

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What did people expect aren't they all the desendent of criminals anyways. Violence is in their blood.

All them are grade a racists.

Hope china sells them and shows them their aukaat in the future.
Nah, they are the perfect fit for eachother since the mainland Chinese are just as racist, only they're not so overt about it, unlike the Aussie filth.
 

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What did people expect aren't they all the desendent of criminals anyways. Violence is in their blood.

All them are grade a racists.

Hope china sells them and shows them their aukaat in the future.
Chinese are more racists than Australians... I stayed at both those places and had first hand experiences ..

While I was flying back in a Chinese airline from Taiwan to Singapore two of the Chinese co passengers refused to sit beside me and the hostess was forced to change their seats ...

Australians are more overt in their racism while Chinese are not ... That is the difference ...
 

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Chinese are more racists than Australians... I stayed at both those places and had first hand experiences ..

While I was flying back in a Chinese airline from Taiwan to Singapore two of the Chinese co passengers refused to sit beside me and the hostess was forced to change their seats ...

Australians are more overt in their racism while Chinese are not ... That is the difference ...
Yeah, apparently the Chongs get freaked out by the sight of dark-skinned people.
 

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Chinese are more racists than Australians... I stayed at both those places and had first hand experiences ..

While I was flying back in a Chinese airline from Taiwan to Singapore two of the Chinese co passengers refused to sit beside me and the hostess was forced to change their seats ...

Australians are more overt in their racism while Chinese are not ... That is the difference ...
That's what I'm saying let them deal with each other.

The only way India can rise is by china and the west getting into such a devastating war that cripples both of them.

So we can rise unhindered.
 

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Chinese are more racists than Australians... I stayed at both those places and had first hand experiences ..

While I was flying back in a Chinese airline from Taiwan to Singapore two of the Chinese co passengers refused to sit beside me and the hostess was forced to change their seats ...

Australians are more overt in their racism while Chinese are not ... That is the difference ...
May be u didn't took bath :rofl:
 

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I wonder how these Chong motherfuckers tolerate the Pakis, especially the ones from the rural areas/ the labourars.
Commies love their country and the money they will do anything to make china numba 1.

Don't you see the lengths at which chinese in the west go to steal tech they put everything at stake.

Indian commies on the other hand will sell the country and their families for a few coins.
 

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Commies love their country and the money they will do anything to make china numba 1.

Don't you see the lengths at which chinese in the west go to steal tech they put everything at stake.
That's true. Besides, these folks themselves ain't exactly known for the standard of their personal hygiene. I remember once being on a trip to Nepal. So my buddies and I were traveling on a bus and there were this small group of Chinese tourists sitting in front of us and all of a sudden motherfuckers took out and started munching on raw dried fish as their morning snack!! Now, the rest I leave to your imagination.
Indian commies on the other thand will sell the country and their families for a few coins.
Yeah, that's cause their loyalty lies with the Chicoms and not their own nation, these folks are deluded of the extreme kind. It's in their name - CPI - Communist Party of India and not ICP - Indian Communist Party, point hai boss.
 

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That's what I'm saying let them deal with each other.

The only way India can rise is by china and the west getting into such a devastating war that cripples both of them.

So we can rise unhindered.
We have taken the right strategy let China fight with Western Countries and India continues to project itself as the one that can stand up to Chinese with western support of technology and economy.
 

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Chinese are more racists than Australians... I stayed at both those places and had first hand experiences ..

While I was flying back in a Chinese airline from Taiwan to Singapore two of the Chinese co passengers refused to sit beside me and the hostess was forced to change their seats ...

Australians are more overt in their racism while Chinese are not ... That is the difference ...
I've Heard the same from my cousins in Malaysia and Canada , their Chinese integrant neighbors are very rude itseams. Apparently make snarky comments in Chinese , they have personally seen racist asshole behaviour on them like intentionally closing the lift doors and one guy who refused to shake hands (pre covid 2015)
 

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I've Heard the same from my cousins in Malaysia and Canada , their Chinese integrant neighbors are very rude itseams. Apparently make snarky comments in Chinese , they have personally seen racist asshole behaviour on them like intentionally closing the lift doors and one guy who refused to shake hands (pre covid 2015)
But these same people get a high out of licking gora arses. In that regard, they're a lot alike their porki brethren, a match made in heaven it seems. Rab ne bana di jodi/ ek ana aur ek futi kaudi!!
 

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