DSRO (Defence Space Reasearch Organization)

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With the aim of enhancing the capabilities of the armed forces to fight wars in space, the government has approved the setting up of a new agency which will develop sophisticated weapon systems and technologies for the purpose.

"The Cabinet Committee on Security headed by Prime Minister Narendra Modi has cleared the setting up of this new agency called the Defence Space Research Agency (DSRO) which has been entrusted with the task of creating space warfare weapon systems and technologies," sources in the Defence Ministry told ANI.

The decision was taken at the topmost level by the government some time ago and the agency has started taking shape under a Joint Secretary-level scientist.

The agency would be provided with a team of scientists which would be working in close coordination with the tri-services integrated defence staff officers.

The agency would be providing the research and development support to the Defence Space Agency (DSA) which comprises members of the three services. The DSA has been created to help the country fight wars in the space.

In March this year, the country had carried out the Anti Satellite Test which demonstrated its capability to shoot down satellites in space.

With this missile test, India joined an elite club of four nations with such capability. The test also helped the country develop deterrence capability against adversaries who may want to attack Indian satellites to cripple systems in times of war.

The Defence Space Agency is being set up in Bengaluru under an Air Vice Marshal-rank officer and will gradually take over the space-related capabilities of the three forces.

The Modi government has created agencies for tackling space and cyber warfare along with a Special Operations Division to tackle the need for special operations required to be carried out both inside and outside the country.

 

[Cutting Edge 2]

All future space weapons, A-Sat tests, military sats should be posted in this thread.

 

[Cutting Edge 2]

I have an idea.

if possible.


We should build a military space station dedicated as Nuclear weapons command center.


It should be placed in upper GTO for survival against A-Sat attacks.

It should be connected with multiple spy satellites via space lasers. They should form a grid system to give this station a 360 view of entire earth.

This dedicated station would be manned at all times by military people.

It should directly fall under PMO.

Such station would guarantee our second strike survivability.

It would also provide direct safe communication link between PMO and forces.

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More inputs are welcome

- Cutting Edge

 

[Cutting Edge 2]

We should develop nuclear warhead carrying satellites.

Why limit ourselves with missile launch warheads why not have bunch of satellites with nuclear warheads?

Such sats would be in hundreds surrounding earth.

They would directly communicate with military space station.

They would be flying all across earth. giving them global coverage.

The war heads should be maneuverable for pinpoint accuracy.

With just push of a button we can target any part of the world and that too in seconds.


If we develop and deploy this weapon then we will race ahead of China and even USA to become a world superpower.


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More inputs are welcome

- Cutting Edge

 

[Deathstar]

We should develop nuclear warhead carrying satellites.

Why limit ourselves with missile launch warheads why not have bunch of satellites with nuclear warheads?

Such sats would be in hundreds surrounding earth.

They would directly communicate with military space station.

They would be flying all across earth. giving them global coverage.

The war heads should be maneuverable for pinpoint accuracy.

With just push of a button we can target any part of the world and that too in seconds.


If we develop and deploy this weapon then we will race ahead of China and even USA to become a world superpower.


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More inputs are welcome

- Cutting Edge

I hope you are joking right? According to outer space treaty , militarization of Space is prohibited

 

[Cutting Edge 2]

I hope you are joking right? According to outer space treaty , militarization of Space is prohibited

yeah I know about that. These are just my ideas.

 

[G10]

Very risky ideas.
Damn 30 characters.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Google search, Project Thor.
The Rod the of God!!

 

[Sanglamorre]

We should develop nuclear warhead carrying satellites.

Why limit ourselves with missile launch warheads why not have bunch of satellites with nuclear warheads?

Such sats would be in hundreds surrounding earth.

They would directly communicate with military space station.

They would be flying all across earth. giving them global coverage.

The war heads should be maneuverable for pinpoint accuracy.

With just push of a button we can target any part of the world and that too in seconds.


If we develop and deploy this weapon then we will race ahead of China and even USA to become a world superpower.


__________________________

More inputs are welcome

- Cutting Edge

That is not the kind of weapons one should look to put in space IMO. No powerful country would tolerate a nuke dropping station circling above them. Besides, Ito be very very expensive to upkeep and not worth the animosity it'll generate.

Rather than that, we need a satellite destroying space station that can employ hundreds of small missiles to take out satellites. Or, which can target ICBMs when it leaves atmosphere as a missile defense systems.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Opinion | What it would take for India to become a proper space power
It is not Star Wars yet, but space has undoubtedly become a military theatre. It is time to rethink our approach.

The Narendra Modi government’s decision to set up a Defence Space Agency (DSA) with command over the space assets of the Army, Navy and Air Force is the most significant development in India’s defence establishment since the operationalization of the nuclear arsenal around 15 years ago. It is not Star Wars yet, but space has undoubtedly become a military theatre. The US, Russia, China and, since March, India, have shown that they have the capability to physically destroy satellites in orbit. Like it or not, the post-Cold War space arms race is underway.

What should be India’s objectives in this new game? Before we answer that question, it is important to recall the exceptional route India took to get here. The US, Russia, China and Europe developed space capabilities for military purposes first, and then put those technologies to civilian use. Barring Europe’s Ariane rockets, their extant satellite launch vehicles are derived from their respective intercontinental ballistic missile designs. India’s space quest, on the other hand, was focused on civilian use—weather forecasting, broadcast, telecommunications and remote sensing. It was only in the mid-1980s that technology from the Indian Space Research Organisation’s (Isro) Satellite Launch Vehicle-3 was employed in the Agni ballistic missile. When it comes to satellites, India has a handful of military satellites in operation, compared to over 40 civilian ones. Our first dedicated military satellite was launched only in 2013.

Just like India was late to militarize space, it has been late to weaponize it. That’s not a bad thing, but in the changed circumstances of the 21st century, it is time to rethink our approach.

India’s unstated space doctrine, if we try and put it into words, is to use space to promote development and the well-being and prosperity of its people. What we must do now is to include the word “security" in that sentence. In doing so, the policy goal will change from having a space presence to being a space power.

What does it mean to be a space power? Colin Gray, one of the world’s most respected scholars of strategy, says that it is “the ability to use space while denying reliable use to any foe". India already has significant ability to use space. But our ability to deny its use to an adversary is, understandably, negligible. March’s anti-satellite (A-SAT) test is the first visible sign that India is on the road to acquire counter-space capability. The newly instituted DSA will be supported by a defence space research organization (DSRO) that should create weapons to “deny, degrade, disrupt, destroy or deceive an adversary’s space capability".

At this stage of the space game, the DSA will need to consider taking up four initiatives.

First, India must protect and secure two kinds of space assets—those that belong to us and those that are crucial to our economy and national security. While satellites are usually hardened to weather the harsh extremes of the space environment, in older designs, protection against space weapons might not have been considered. Future designs must certainly factor in the risk of attack by hostile forces.

Second, in order to effectively defend our space assets, India must have the most reliable and accurate capabilities to track space objects, from debris and spacecraft to celestial bodies. Since accurate tracking forms the basis of almost every conceivable action that we might undertake—including the all-important ability to target at will—this crucial capability must be developed indigenously.

Third, for space defence to be effective, India must acquire a minimum, credible offensive capacity across the various types of space weapons, physical, electronic and cyber. The “minimum" is to ensure that we do not get overly drawn into an arms race, while ensuring that we have what it takes to deter attacks on our space assets. As India has demonstrated in the nuclear sphere, such a posture is wise, possible and works. Credibility demands that both partners and adversaries are persuaded that we have the capacity, so occasional demonstrations become necessary.

Finally, our broader space policy must acquire a new seriousness in improving launch capabilities and spacecraft design. The ability to place large satellites in geostationary orbits should become highly reliable. ISRO’s budgets must be enlarged, of course, but just as importantly, private entrants encouraged in everything from launches to specialized payloads. Like the US, China has recognized that the creative energies of private entrepreneurs can bolster its space power. Why shouldn’t we?

Five centuries ago, a few small European countries acquired global power and domination by investing in well-armed blue-water navies. On the subcontinent, the mighty Mughal empire—larger and perhaps militarily more powerful than most of them—settled for a coastal force performing constabulary duties. The failure to appreciate how much the game had changed, and how best to equip for it, proved very expensive in the long run. Let us not forget that lesson.

 

[IndianHawk]

I have an idea.

if possible.


We should build a military space station dedicated as Nuclear weapons command center.


It should be placed in upper GTO for survival against A-Sat attacks.

It should be connected with multiple spy satellites via space lasers. They should form a grid system to give this station a 360 view of entire earth.

This dedicated station would be manned at all times by military people.

It should directly fall under PMO.

Such station would guarantee our second strike survivability.

It would also provide direct safe communication link between PMO and forces.

__________________________

More inputs are welcome

- Cutting Edge

Not a new idea. Orbital weapon stations have been thought before. They won't survive in GTO as ASat ranges can be increased very easily .

And it's not just missile. An ASat can release a tiny satellite kill vehicle from lower altitude towards GTO times perfectly to collide with weapons station.

Also with hypersonic weapons capable of striking anywhere on globe within minutes. Space based weapons are pointless unless aliens show up for a battle. then I will have to take matters into my own hands lol.

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[Cutting Edge 2]

Not a new idea. Orbital weapon stations have been thought before. They won't survive in GTO as ASat ranges can be increased very easily .

And it's not just missile. An ASat can release a tiny satellite kill vehicle from lower altitude towards GTO times perfectly to collide with weapons station.

Also with hypersonic weapons capable of striking anywhere on globe within minutes. Space based weapons are pointless unless aliens show up for a battle. then I will have to take matters into my own hands lol.

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maybe develop an A Sat protection system in future.

These are just raw ideas.

Google search, Project Thor.
The Rod the of God!!

I already did but those weapons aren't nuclear and doesn't have a command system in space.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

maybe develop an A Sat protection system in future.

These are just raw ideas.

Not possible. If possible, not economically viable. It will be very costly & may be heavy too. 4 aane ki murgi mein 12 aane ka masala jayega.

Better is to have capability to launch more SATs quickly.
US has Minotaur, Russia has START, China has Kuiazhou and we are developing SSLV for quick launches.

I already did but those weapons aren't nuclear and doesn't have a command system in space.

They still are very powerful weapons. Try to understand, nuclear weapons are mass destruction devices and cause trouble in neighboring countries as well as atmosphere too.

 

[Cutting Edge 2]

Not possible. If possible, not economically viable. It will be very costly & may be heavy too. 4 aane ki murgi mein 12 aane ka masala jayega.

Better is to have capability to launch more SATs quickly.
US has Minotaur, Russia has START, China has Kuiazhou and we are developing SSLV for quick launches.

They still are very powerful weapons. Try to understand, nuclear weapons are mass destruction devices and cause trouble in neighboring countries as well as atmosphere too.

IMO future wars will be heavily space based. Many countries are now considering a deicated space force for future.

We must think outside the box to to see a space war scenario.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

IMO future wars will be heavily space based. Many countries are now considering a deicated space force for future.

We must think outside the box to to see a space war scenario.

We are seing but more in pragmatic approach. Nuclear warfare on and towards earth should be avoided altogether. It doesn't only hurts the nation we nuke but us & our environment also.

 

[ARVION]

Atma Nirbhar: Indian Space Start-ups and the Armed Services | ORF

Startups need stable clients to succeed and the Indian armed services can be a critical source of customer-based stability.

www.orfonline.org

 

[filmfan]

I hope you are joking right? According to outer space treaty , militarization of Space is prohibited

Yep. Probably it's a joke. Sorry this is a serious website, but regarding the commitment of not so serious commenters, I'd like to contribute to this.

There are two films. First, of course, is Wim Wenders's Until the end of the world. This is serious. The other one is Iron sky.

Check it out. The plot, is that A. Hitler and his minions (I'm not totally joking, I did not write et. al). sent out carefully crafted UFO resembling crafts to the moon. Much Like Kurt Vonnegut's Sirens of the Titan. Also, a must read. So, in this film, the wehrmacht (the regular division of the German army, which was conscripted, so, it included corps existing of empathic soldiers, who realised, that there is something else going on, not just Social in-outgroup. If you know what I mean.

So, In another movie, Asterix, they used a terrorist tactic, that units of cohesion consisted of a limited number of individuals, but, instead of receiving signals from the news, they actually kept together by social cohesion.

Social in-outgroup means, that like, whether you're banking at ICICI, or a Delhi based banc, or whether you're from Kolhapur, or Ahmedabd, or whether you're asian, or European, or, wether you're a mutant, or not.

Wass????

Also, check out the history of Thermopülaie. (not the movie 300, that is not so good).

 

[Indx TechStyle]

PM Modi to launch Defence Space Mission with 75 innovative challenges
By synergising the defence PSUs with the private sector and startups, PM Modi has signalled that India is striving towards space, the next generation of national offence and defence.

A file photo of PM Modi from 2020 DefExpo.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi is all set to launch Defence Space Mission, the next generation of national offense and defence, even as he inaugurates the DefExpo 22 at Gandhinagar in Gujarat on Wednesday.

As India celebrates Azadi ka Amrit Mahotsav to mark the 75h year of Independence, 75 challenges, providing a holistic overview of stages of space mission, have been curated to boost the country's space-related defence preparedness within the 1967 Outer Space Treaty. The challenges will come alive on the Defence Ministry website, the moment PM Modi presses the button in Gandhinagar.

The government has classified the challenges into five technology buckets - launch systems, satellite systems, communication and payload systems, ground systems, and software systems.

With the domain of warfare expanding beyond land, air, sea, and into space, the Defence Space Mission is being set up with multiple dual use technologies to provide fillip to the nascent space industry in India. It is learnt that this timely government encouragement could make India a front leader in second space age, characterized by rapid privatisation of space.

India’s development is highly dependent on space based technologies like NavIC, remote sensing, and space based internet. The Space Defence Mission will provide a boost to space based tech with multiple civilian and military applications.

The proposed 75 challenges have been categorized into various initiatives of the Department of Defence Production with some 35 open to more than 50 identified start-ups, 20 under Make 1 with partial government funding and remaining 20 under heavy government funding route.

While the DRDO has agreed in principle to hand-hold the industries by providing technical consultancy and access to facilities, the ISRO has also agreed to support the mission through tech support, procuring and inducting dual use technologies on productization.

It is understood that the ownership, Minimum Order Quantity (MOQ), and projected development budget of each challenge was ascertained from the end users, like Indian Army, Indian Air Force, and Indian Navy, and based on inputs, the list of challenges to be launched has been finalized.

There have been multiple rounds of meetings of all stakeholders conducted with the defence secretary and additional secretary of defence production. Defence minister Rajnath Singh has also reviewed the progress of the mission.