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[Smoothbore125mm]

Birdies of S-W command hopefully imrh program is as successful as alh program

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

DRDO plans India's first underwater-launched UAV, awards contract to Pune startup Sagar Defence - Times of India

The DRDO has taken a significant step towards enhancing India's underwater military prowess by partnering with Sagar Defence Engineering Pvt Ltd, a Pune-based defence startup, to develop innovative underwater-launched unmanned aerial vehicles (ULUAVs). These ULUAVs will be the first of their...

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[Photon]

EyeROV Kochi

 

[Azaad]

DRDO plans India's first underwater-launched UAV, awards contract to Pune startup Sagar Defence - Times of India

The DRDO has taken a significant step towards enhancing India's underwater military prowess by partnering with Sagar Defence Engineering Pvt Ltd, a Pune-based defence startup, to develop innovative underwater-launched unmanned aerial vehicles (ULUAVs). These ULUAVs will be the first of their...

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Have I read this right ? Is it underwater launched unmanned AERIAL vehicle or is this a typo ? Besides how does such a machine transmit data to the submarine unless the submarine is expected to traverse the waters on the surface which isn't feasible ?

And if such data can be transmitted underwater thru VLF / ULF data links , do such ULUAVs have those capabilities ? If yes , ( which frankly doesn't seem plausible ) how come regular HALE / MALE drones with much more endurance, flying over oceans , can't be deployed in similar roles . We could also extend the argument to P-8I Neptunes.

 

[Photon]

Exported to DRDO,Saudi Arabia and UAE

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

Have I read this right ? Is it underwater launched unmanned AERIAL vehicle or is this a typo ? Besides how does such a machine transmit data to the submarine unless the submarine is expected to traverse the waters on the surface which isn't feasible ?

Others have also tested, basically instead of periscope you get much larger aerea to view. One time use only, afterwards you ditch it into sea.

And if such data can be transmitted underwater thru VLF / ULF data links , do such ULUAVs have those capabilities ? If yes , ( which frankly doesn't seem plausible ) how come regular HALE / MALE drones with much more endurance, flying over oceans , can't be deployed in similar roles . We could also extend the argument to P-8I Neptunes.

Nothing that complicated lol. Either a floating pod is extended to surface, or a communications mast is raised from sail. Chance of detection is not any higher than poking out a periscope (possibly lower, too).

BTW, for VLF you need several km long antenna, and even longer for ULF. Forget these small drones, even the largest aircraft (like E4s) only reach VLF.

 

[Arihant Roy]

Saaw will soon undergo another round of trials. Most probably user trials of the EO variant.

DRDL tender.

Tonbo imaging or Data Patterns will win this.

Longer ranged 120 km and 300 km versions of Pinaka are in the works.

 

[Azaad]

 

[Smoothbore125mm]

Saaw will soon undergo another round of trials. Most probably user trials of the EO variant.

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DRDL tender.

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Tonbo imaging or Data Patterns will win this.


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Longer ranged 120 km and 300 km versions of Pinaka are in the works.

300km pinaka my guess would be its caliber is increased on the same pods ?

 

[Blood+]

300km pinaka my guess would be its caliber is increased on the same pods ?

That's almost a given. We've pretty much maxed out the current 214mm caliber in terms of range. We might yet be able to squeeze out some more, but that's about it.

 

[Smoothbore125mm]

That's almost a given. We've pretty much maxed out the current 214mm caliber in terms of range.

Also guided pinaka requires a larger head to accommodate the fins so if we increase the width of whole rocket it can easily be 300 odd millimeters

 

[Blood+]

Also guided pinaka requires a larger head to accommodate the fins so if we increase the width of whole rocket it can easily be 300 odd millimeters

yeah and I hope they start working on a desi Rampage ASAP.

 

[Photon]

"Pluto" from Drona

 

[Photon]

Pluto drone from Drona IITB

 

[ezsasa]

yeah and I hope they start working on a desi Rampage ASAP.

rudram-2 platform is available, ground attack version.

 

[Blood+]

rudram-2 platform is available, ground attack version.

It's better to have more options, no?? Plus, an air-launched Pinaka rocket should be significantly cheaper as well.

 

[ezsasa]

It's better to have more options, no?? Plus, an air-launched Pinaka rocket should be significantly cheaper as well.

ideally yes.

but by the time IAF decides it wants this, and the file moves up the chain. pattern has been, to squeeze as much evolution and applicability from existing platforms rather than building a new one.

RAMPAGE too has the same mission profile, ARM and ground attack.

RAMPAGE

RUDRAM 1 & 2

 

[Raj Malhotra]

Drdo wanted to develop a range of MBRLs since 1980s. Pinaka 1 range 45 to 65 km, Pinaka 2 range 75 to 120 km and Pinaka 3 range 150+ km. The import lobby in order to import upgraded grad and Smerch missiles might have sabotaged this program. The program also suffered due to gross incompetence of OFB, where they were not able to stabilise the manufacturing, the plant got delayed by more than 10+ years.

Now we have Pinaka unguided with the range of 45 km, Pinaka guided with a range of 75-100km

I believe that Pinaka for 120km is a different rocket equivalent to Russian Smerch and has a range of 120-150km. DRDO has been asking permission to develop this Rocket/missile since more than 20 years.

Now it will be interesting to note which rocket/missile will be developed as 300 km Pinaka. It can either be an off shoot of Pragati, a simplified Pralay or even a completely new missile.

Meanwhile, private cos like Solar/EEPL are also in the race because they have their own guided missiles in the range of 120 KM and 300 KM. Designs of these missiles have not been disclosed publicly.

 

[stat231]

Pluto drone from Drona IITBView attachment 258240

Bought one of these 5 years back (without the camera module) , quite decent .

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

Pluto drone from Drona IITBView attachment 258240

I have used this one, let me say very clearly, this thing is absolute trash. DO NOT BUY.

Thankfully mine was free, but still, working with it was a headache I will remember.