Chinese navy ships to be at Gwadar: Pak official

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ar-Pak-navy-official/articleshow/55622674.cms

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KARACHI: China would deploy its naval ships along with Pakistan Navy to safeguard the strategic Gwadar port and trade routes under the USD 46 billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, a navy official here has said, shedding light on a plan likely to alarm India.

A Pakistan Navy official said the role of maritime forces has increased since the country has made the Gwadar port operational and speeded up economic activities under the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC).

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sounds serious doesn't it ?

on a slightly different note
why are we advertising our water advantage to the public ?
why dont we instead quietly build the dams and then use the at the right time ?


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India and China most probably silently decided not engage each other on each other territories but 3rd countries.
 

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Are the cunning Chinese stupid enough to put their ships in range of anti ship missiles in times of war?

The message means Pakis have no future Navy plans. Allah ke naam pe de do.....

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Are the cunning Chinese stupid enough to put their ships in range of anti ship missiles in times of war?

The message means Pakis have no future Navy plans. Allah ke naam pe de do.....

:biggrin2: :biggrin2: :biggrin2:
Pakistanis will add Chinese pork meat in anything they eat and then burp at vegetarian Indians.

If China can hand over nuclear bomb blue print then there should be no need to exclaim every time some Pakistani comes out wielding Chinese favors.
 

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be ready for a new Indian navy base in a gulf country .
Don't we already have birthing rights in Oman ? We also have a alleged Observation Post facing gwadar on Omani coast. Not to mention, Iran is all friends with India. Gwadar is already at the mercy of IN.
 

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Time to invite US navy near gwadar
Ultimate stupidity if you are equating Indo US corporation with Sino Pak.
US and PRC at least match somehow economically and militarily at global stage.

Other one is India, behind in catch up state. But Pakistan doesn't even stand anywhere in picture. They have just a geographical location and nothing else.

Pakistani Navy was and will remain "shoonya". Nor, China has to transfer entire PLAN in Arabian Sea. It's deploying a block just to protect the route through Malacca Strait from blockade. It's not enough small to take on by India in a war. But I don't guess China will sacrifice it for just brotherhood with Pakistan.
But Pakistanis think that Chinese presence at their coastline can prevent other 1971.
be ready for a new Indian navy base in a gulf country .
Earlier, I have posted an article about India building bases in Eastern Africa and negotiating for some in Western Asia, with KSA and UAE.
Before seeking ways to block Malacca to choke off Chinese oil supplies, we must focus on protectibg our own in Hormuz Starit.
 

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Ultimate stupidity if you are equating Indo US corporation with Sino Pak.
US and PRC at least match somehow economically and militarily at global stage.

Other one is India, behind in catch up state. But Pakistan doesn't even stand anywhere in picture. They have just a geographical location and nothing else.

Pakistani Navy was and will remain "shoonya". Nor, China has to transfer entire PLAN in Arabian Sea. It's deploying a block just to protect the route through Malacca Strait from blockade. It's not enough small to take on by India in a war. But I don't guess China will sacrifice it for just brotherhood with Pakistan.
But Pakistanis think that Chinese presence at their coastline can prevent other 1971.

Earlier, I have posted an article about India building bases in Eastern Africa and negotiating for some in Western Asia, with KSA and UAE.
Before seeking ways to block Malacca to choke off Chinese oil supplies, we must focus on protectibg our own in Hormuz Starit.
Project 15A class destroyers can wipe out Pakistani navy for 5 times. That is the status of Pakistani navy.
 

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Pakistanis will add Chinese pork meat in anything they eat and then burp at vegetarian Indians.

If China can hand over nuclear bomb blue print then there should be no need to exclaim every time some Pakistani comes out wielding Chinese favors.
China is essentially colonising Pakistan.
 

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If China chooses to do so then it will be directly involving itself in any future Indo-Paki war. Because in any such war IN will be required to blockade oil supplies to Pakistan and this will require stationing of naval ships and submarines on the periphery of Gwadar as well as Karachi.

Now the million dollar question is how China will react to such situation?

I might sound exaggerating but seeds of a two front just being sown.
 

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If China chooses to do so then it will be directly involving itself in any future Indo-Paki war. Because in any such war IN will be required to blockade oil supplies to Pakistan and this will require stationing of naval ships and submarines on the periphery of Gwadar as well as Karachi.

Now the million dollar question is how China will react to such situation?

I might sound exaggerating but seeds of a two front just being sown.
It's more of a posturing . In case of an indo pak war Chinese ships will be the first to run away .

China has no legs in the Indian ocean.
Even if it deploys 2-4 ships what more can they do than information gathering .

Chinese won't risk an Uber destructive war with India for the sake of failed basket case of Pakistan .

All Chinese weapon sale to Pakistan will still only be a fraction of what china exports to India.

In war with India more Chinese will die of unemployment than indian assault.:biggrin2:

And then there is risk of uprising in Tibet .

We should use this deployment to intrude into SCS. And plant ourselves at crucial junctions around Malacca and Java.
 

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As I had mentioned earlier, the CPEC isn't a purely economic project which we are led to believe it is. The CPEC is a logistics life line from Kashgar in Xinjiang to Gwadar which is the future PLAAN base being set up there. A Chinese naval base here would have three geostrategic advantages:

1. Dominate the Strait of Hormuz.

2. Dominate the Arabian Sea and the Indian Ocean Region.

3. A Chinese naval base along with the Pak Navy at Gwadar will be a guarantee against any Indian strike on Gwadar and other Pakistani military assets there in war due to the presence of the Chinese navy.

4. Lateral movement of Pakistan Army reserve field formations from one theater to another would become much faster during war, thus reducing reaction time considerably.

That's the prime reason why the Pakistani Army is interested in getting the CPEC moving and completed as soon as possible. As a first step, Gwadar Port has already been handed over lock stock and barrel to the Chinese on an extendable 40 year lease.

Pakistan is just a bit player in this project which is of the Chinese, by the Chinese and for the Chinese.

A Chinese naval base at Gwadar is bad news for India as well as the U.S.
 
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Chinese navy is not even a blue water navy


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