China objects to oil hunt, India says back off

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If every time someone starts doing something in the seas, PRC jumps in with a claim, then we have to but ignore PRC. We need to have our military stationed there, just to force PRC to think twice before doing something silly, in other words 'power projection.'

We don't just jump in with a claim, we have been claiming SCS for decades.

You can igore our claims if you like, but we won't hesistate to sink your ships just because you ignore. You should send your best naval ships to escort the exploration job, if possible send an AC, that will be a good target.

Personally, I am very looking forward to another cut-off incident in SCS. I have commented a lot on this thread since yesterday, but my intention is not to stop India from doing that. I just want to leave some marks on this thread, so that one day in the future when Chinese coast guard gives you guys a lesson, I can dig this thread up and say " I told you".
 
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We don't just jump in with a claim, we have been claiming SCS for decades.

You can igore our claims if you like, but we won't hesistate to sink your ships just because you ignore. You should send your best naval ships to escort the exploration job, if possible send an AC, that will be a good target.

Personally, I am very looking forward to another cut-off incident in SCS. I have commented a lot on this thread since yesterday, but my intention is not to stop India from doing that. I just want to leave some marks on this thread, so that one day in the future when Chinese coast guard gives you guys a lesson, I can dig this thread up and say " I told you".
They haven't been able to do jack upto now.
 

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China warns India on South China Sea exploration projects


China on Thursday indicated it was opposed to India engaging in oil and gas exploration projects in the disputed South China Sea, and warned Indian companies against entering into any agreements with Vietnam ahead of External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna's visit to Hanoi this week.

"Our consistent position is that we are opposed to any country engaging in oil and gas exploration and development activities in waters under China's jurisdiction," Foreign Ministry spokesperson Jiang Yu said, in reply to a question on reports that the Oil and Natural Gas Corporation (ONGC) Videsh Limited was considering exploration projects in two blocks that Vietnam claims.

While Ms. Jiang said she was not aware of reports of Indian involvement in any projects, she stressed China enjoyed "indisputable sovereignty" over the South China Sea and its islands.

"We hope foreign countries will not get involved in the dispute," she said. "For countries outside the region, we hope they will respect and support countries in the region to solve this dispute through bilateral channels."

China and Vietnam are among at least ten countries that hold competing claims over the South China Sea and the islands located in its waters.

In June, tensions flared between China and Vietnam over the Spratly and Paracel Islands, following clashes between Chinese and Vietnamese boats.

External Affairs Minister Mr. Krishna will hold talks in Hanoi later this week. Among the issues slated for discussion, according to media reports, is an agreement for oil and gas exploration in two blocks over which Vietnam claims sovereignty, by ONGC Videsh.

China had reportedly voiced its objections to India about the projects, saying that any projects would be "illegal" as China claims sovereignty over the entire South China Sea.

India, however, is likely to go ahead with the projects in the two blocks, which Vietnam says it holds rights to under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.

In recent weeks, India, too, has raised concerns over Chinese projects in disputed territory — in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK). China has rejected Indian concerns over this issue, stating that it viewed the dispute as one for India and Pakistan to solve.

Ms. Jiang said the 1982 U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea "did not give any country the right to expand their own exclusive economic zone and continental shelf to other countries' territories". The convention, she said, did not negate "a country's right formed in history that has been consistently claimed".

Disputes between China, Vietnam and other countries that hold claims to the South China Sea have flared in recent months. While China's neighbours have blamed an increasingly assertive Chinese navy for stirring tensions, with recent clashes with both Vietnam and the Philippines, Chinese officials have pointed the finger at the United States for fanning the flames with its renewing of military alliances in the region.

Ahead of Mr. Krishna's visit, India has also stressed its strong support for the "freedom of navigation in international waters, including in the South China Sea", after the INS Airavat, on a recent goodwill visit to Vietnam, was asked over radio to leave "Chinese waters".


The Hindu : News / International : China warns India on South China Sea exploration projects
 

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Two blocks were bought today by 2 different Indian oil companies expanding operations

South China Sea: Govt says ONGC Videsh's Vietnamese project is as per international law in response to China's objections about oil exploration - The Economic Times

He said ONGC Videsh has been in Vietnam for quite sometime in offshore oil and natural gas exploration field and that they were in the process of expanding cooperation and operation and Essar, a subsidiary of Essar Oil, has also been awarded a gas block in Vietnam.
Am I talking to a wall or what?

We are opposing India to explore oil in disputed waters, not opposing India to explore oil in Vietnam. Do I need to tell you that China doesn't own Vietnam.
 

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We don't just jump in with a claim, we have been claiming SCS for decades.
Even Dalai Lama has been claiming Tibet for decades. So what?

You can igore our claims if you like, but we won't hesistate to sink your ships just because you ignore. You should send your best naval ships to escort the exploration job, if possible send an AC, that will be a good target.
Of course we will have a naval presence there. We will not need ACs as much as fighters armed with anti-ship missiles and stationed in Vietnam. You sink one ship, we take your entire fleet out in South China Sea. Then we can dance Zumba along the Indo-Tibetan border.

Personally, I am very looking forward to another cut-off incident in SCS. I have commented a lot on this thread since yesterday, but my intention is not to stop India from doing that. I just want to leave some marks on this thread, so that one day in the future when Chinese coast guard gives you guys a lesson, I can dig this thread up and say " I told you".
I am sure you are because you will not dare start off an overt conflict with India. Covert is the way to go. Good sense!

We have to stay vigilant.
 
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Yeah, because you are only talking, we can sink your boat, but can't shut your big mouth up. The mouth is way too big.
As long as it is big enough to swallow your SCS flotilla, I am much satisfied!
 

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As long as it is big enough to swallow your SCS flotilla, I am much satisfied!
Yeah, you can swallow it by just doing some magical talking. That mouth isn't only big, but also magical.
 

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Yeah, you can swallow it by just doing some magical talking. That mouth isn't only big, but also magical.
Not magical talking, but anti-ship missiles; but the effect will be magical to you, and shocking!

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Those are not your waters. You will have to physically sink an Indian Naval ship in South China Sea and hope there is no retaliation from India. Rest assured, there will be.

Again, we don't recognise claims by PRC on South China Sea, so we are not bound to follow your diktats. The only way you can enforce your will is by force itself. Try it.
If it is an exploration boat, we will cut off the cable; if it is a naval boat, we will sink it,retaliation from India or not. You can mark my word.



I don't want to be a bummer here dude. but has india ever retaliated? is that not a fair question? thousands killed from across the border and ....?
If we operate a naval boat in your waters, are you gonna let it go because you fear a possible retaliation from China?
 

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Lets keep the bravado in check. Thanks.
 

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If it is an exploration boat, we will cut off the cable; if it is a naval boat, we will sink it,retaliation from India or not. You can mark my word.
Do it. Convert your words into actions and leave an indelible mark on world history. :D



If we operate a naval boat in your waters, are you gonna let it go because you fear a possible retaliation from China?
Let us say we claim SCS as Vietnamese waters and have taken permission to do whatever the hell we want there. Anything else you got for me?
 

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This is such a great chance for PLA to march into south asia.

I hate viet and phlipine, they such cowards. they didnt gave any chance to PLA. Generals r complaining, they have been waiting so long.

Dont become silent later, like viets and phillipines! LOL
 

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This is such a great chance for PLA to march into south asia.

I hate viet and phlipine, they such cowards. they didnt gave any chance to PLA. Generals r complaining, they have been waiting so long.

Dont become silent later, like viets and phillipines! LOL
Marching into Vietnamese territory will simply escalate tensions, result in larger complications for PRC, given its excellent relations with its neighbours. Just being pragmatic.
 

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