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Maharaj samudragupt

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CNN is just doing its job as a media company. And I don't see any difference between CNN reports and other media outlets on this Indian 2nd wave.

Can I ask you a question, did you ever liked CNN?
Yesterday bbc reported that , Pfizer vaccine is effective against indian variant and not covaxin of india .
Which was plain lie .
You can be thankful for them, but our distrust against them cannot be stopped.
 

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"India is open society with free media."

Then we have no disagreement that what CNN is doing is what "free media" should do under the circumstances. I get the feeling that it's not really the message here that's at issue but the messenger, in particular CNN. So if it's local media, or RT, or France24, or DWTV, or Fox News, it's okay tovreport these cremation images since they're reporting the same images of death, dispair, overflowing hospitals, patients gasping for air on ambulamces and cars, and relatives crying, complaining or desperatepy looking for oxygen...
It's the country along with the messenger here.
Any way we are idiots we should have taken care of thier dogs ( reporters ) here in india.
 

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"India is open society with free media."

Then we have no disagreement that what CNN is doing is what "free media" should do under the circumstances. I get the feeling that it's not really the message here that's at issue but the messenger, in particular CNN. So if it's local media, or RT, or France24, or DWTV, or Fox News, it's okay tovreport these cremation images since they're reporting the same images of death, dispair, overflowing hospitals, patients gasping for air on ambulamces and cars, and relatives crying, complaining or desperatepy looking for oxygen...
CNN is not free media. They are Democrat pimp tabloid who are paid to sniff Biden’s ass.

Furthermore you need to understand the backdrop on which this discussion is happening. We are not sparing any western mouth pieces. Every white mutant in this business has contempt for India and Hindus. The reasons best known to them but we have quite good ideas why they do it and this forum is full of academic inputs made by different members decoding their contempt time and again.

Not only we call out multiple western portals and their hired brown sepoys for spreading fake news but also expose their coordinated attacks coinciding with social and political moments critical to us.

You being a CNN fanboy is not going to click with anyone here with us because we know CNN is just a face of more sinister and oppressive subterranean racial and expansionist cults who won’t let us grow to our potential.
 

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@asianobserve thinks we are school going kids with limited education and have memory of few weeks.

Publishing a statement, a matter of fact is not News on American tabloids.

The news is one sided debates, using influencers to start trends and social media storms, coordinated attacks using worldwide networks, issuing scripts to feeders like AFP, Toolkits to mislead, shoot and scoot, creating scattering effect by bombarding fake news and OpEds to stick with as many sources it can, ring fencing counter arguments, targeting individual with opposing views and threatening with cancel cultures.

Their objective may or may to be to create an acute harm but inflicting a permanent injury by a systematic attack of very long duration creating a credibility deficit and demoralising masses against big country like India.
 

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"India is open society with free media."

Then we have no disagreement that what CNN is doing is what "free media" should do under the circumstances. I get the feeling that it's not really the message here that's at issue but the messenger, in particular CNN. So if it's local media, or RT, or France24, or DWTV, or Fox News, it's okay tovreport these cremation images since they're reporting the same images of death, dispair, overflowing hospitals, patients gasping for air on ambulamces and cars, and relatives crying, complaining or desperatepy looking for oxygen...
Cremations are a private and vulnerable moment for families. Our people deserve to let go of their dead in peace, with no media making a spectacle out of the deaths. Reporting on the NUMBER of deaths is fine. Showing people mourning and showing cremation pyres is sick. People are losing their loved ones, and they are in mourning, while the Western Media is making dollars out of covering these as a spectacle. Report on the Govts mistakes or report on the number of deaths, but not on the cremations. Would you like it if someone barged into the burial of your family and took pictures of that, and made thousands of dollars out of that? You may disagree on the political ideologies and you may criticize the govt., but you cannot make money off people's deaths.

We support Russia now, not because we are paid by Russia, but because Russia stood by us and aided us when the Muricans abandoned us. We never asked for preferential treatment from them. We only asked the Bald Eagle to stop hoarding things they didn't need. They have more than enough vaccines to populate their whole nation, yet they continue to hoard vaccines. They refuse to supply vital raw materials, when they don't need them. India gifted them with HCQ and the world with vaccines, when we had the situation under control, but if they are selfish and are indifferent to Indians dying, while they very well could have taken measures to equitably distribute vaccines, for which we were willing to pay, what do you think the average Indian would feel like? Russia didn't make such a huge hullabaloo and proceeded to aid India.

As for your comments on Russia attacking any of its allies who step out of line, Russia-India ties have been declining for the past decade or two, and we have been closer with the muricans, but they never attacked us like you claim they do. If you want to comment on India, read up about our history and where we are today.
 

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Atleast with this Pinoy we now know that the "brown sepoy" phenomenon is not restricted to Indians.

Well this Pinoy is not onion skinned. I understand that we are not perfect and we can always do better. And one of the best way to discover areas where we can improve on is by feedback, the role held by media in society.
 

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@asianobserve thinks we are school going kids with limited education and have memory of few weeks.

Publishing a statement, a matter of fact is not News on American tabloids.

The news is one sided debates, using influencers to start trends and social media storms, coordinated attacks using worldwide networks, issuing scripts to feeders like AFP, Toolkits to mislead, shoot and scoot, creating scattering effect by bombarding fake news and OpEds to stick with as many sources it can, ring fencing counter arguments, targeting individual with opposing views and threatening with cancel cultures.

Their objective may or may to be to create an acute harm but inflicting a permanent injury by a systematic attack of very long duration creating a credibility deficit and demoralising masses against big country like India.
"They've" been attacking their own Government's first class and embarassing failure (given they're 1st World) far longer than what they're doing now with Indian government's failure. Everyday you see the statistics and images of US deaths and how they're the No. 1 in Worldwide body tally by a wide margin.
 

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Dehumanizing the "enemy" is very dangerous. Hitler and the Nazis dehumanized the Jews to make it easier to kill them...
Hitler lost because he was a idiot subpar commander on battlefield .
The british empire has more blood in its hands than hitler in his mere 12 years of rule.
Nobody cared about Jews , the invasion of ussr was idiotic by him.
So he lost.
You are not the first one to gaslight us as Nazis , we don't care.
Our concern is that those pimps ( now iam not dehumanizing them after all pimp is a very venerable and dignified human job you see ) who sell tragedy porn to west news media outlets , and those news targets the ruling government is what makes us angry.
He is our prime minister , not theirs .
We will vote him out if we want to.
 

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Dehumanizing the "enemy" is very dangerous. Hitler and the Nazis dehumanized the Jews to make it easier to kill them...
we are the “Jews” in India, one major section of Indian society thinks we are kafirs hence eligible to be converted or killed. Another major section of world population thinks, our gods are the devil so we have to be converted to show the light.

we have been denied our history prior to 1857, simply erased from history books. made fun of everyday.

That’s the price we are paying everyday to keep a way of life from becoming extinct in its own land of birth.

We are the “Jews”.
 

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"we can improve on is by feedback, the role held by media in society."

There is no excuse for making entertainment out of cremations. It is certainly to create a sensation, not to invoke compassion. And to your question about ever liking CNN, no I was wary from the beginning. But the revulsion started with the coverage of the OJ Simpson story, where the chase of Simpson's Bronco vehicle was made into a TV show. A relative of mine called this 'coke and pizza' journalism.
 

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Well this Pinoy is not onion skinned. I understand that we are not perfect and we can always do better. And one of tge best way to discovercareas where we can improve on is by feedback, the role held by media in society.
If you think "media" exists to improve society with no hidden agendas no biases then I have a bridge to sell you. Various intelligence agencies, corporations, politicians control and manipulate media for their agenda. There is no such thing as free media.

And what is this nonsense obsession with media sympathy? The democracies aren't for the media by the media. Media exist to serve people and representatives of those people. not the other way around.

There was no media in 1776 yet USA was a perfectly fine democracy back then. Media doesn't improve society but society improves itself. The freedom movement of India wasn't because of media but because of people. But nowadays a single guideline by gov and all the sudden "democracy is in danger". Those that think they need constant media propaganda to keep democracy alive have no confidence in people nor in democracy.

There is too much CIA brainwashing that people think elected officials aren't trustworthy but some unelected media house who is owned by some shady businessmen is pillar of truth.
 

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No scoundrel has right to disrespect dead bodies of Hindus and use their cremation to further their propaganda.

We demand respect.

Obviously it is done by same people who have habit of doing such 3rd rate deeds against us.

If our preconceived notions against CNN are in question then we have documented every CNN and other western mouthpieces’ contemptuous hate filled hit jobs they do against us. Not to mention their neurotic assumed authority to educate us is laughable but it will be reversed in due course of time.

People will be allowed to abuse these bastards without any repercussions.

Now it will not be business as usual here with them.
 

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"They've" been attacking their own Government's first class and embarassing failure (given they're 1st World) far longer than what they're doing now with Indian government's failure. Everyday you see the statistics and images of US deaths and how they're the No. 1 in Worldwide body tally by a wide margin.
Let's just compare , their bias , better not igrone this i am tagging you @asianobserve , in first place go check out theur reporting during trump and biden era and then come and cry here .

Media is no torch bearer of truth , every media person is a human and if they are not called out for fake news , they will use theur influence to spread propoganda of a particular interest group .

Isn't that 500 million positive patient a fake news , that means about 40% of indian are covid positive , what about those 20,000 deaths , is that corona deaths only .

In such a big country as india , how many people die daily , i will tell you about 3000 , add 3000 deaths due to covud , that don't reach that 20000 number , if so many people were dying ,our demographic ratio would be Disturbed and whole world would have known.

Why show cremation , any older report showing mass funeral in America , hospital and thst part is tolerable to a extent , but why promoting your vaccine Pfizer when those bastards were asking for strategic installation in return of vaccine , our indigenous vaccine is more effective that that Gucci bag Pfizer one .

Sorry we are not idiots here who can't understand how west act , why did joe pedophile biden first blocked covid supply and then bypassing government , why , in first place , we can handle directly , no need for US interference here , they are not some international cop to do everyone's job .
 
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