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Vietnam for sure suffer much more loses than China
Let's see... 26,000 PLA killed to 3,000 Viet... 426 PLA tanks destroyed to 185 Viet tanks. Nah, you suffer much more losses than Vietnam.

but China found out that after the disastrous culture revolution, China army need training, since 1979 until 1989, for ten years, we forget Vietnam on the border, the border is the mountain ridge, China took all the ridges, the war not big scale, but very bloody. Vietnam prove to be inferior than China for the spirit and planning. For this 10years, China business as usual, all armies sent some the representative to fought this border war as training, the same time china make a big development, but Vietnam lost whole 10 years, and ask to resume a normal relation with China.
Basically, China got its arse whooped by Vietcong and learned you couldn't do blind mass human wave attacks. So total restructure of the PLA was in order. No land was lost by Vietnam, the borders remain the same today. Vietnam now is arming to protect itself from PLAN incursions into its EEZ and able to fight a sea war that will cause Chinese shipping much damage. China lost a couple divisions worth of troops, no gain and humiliation to Vietnam and now they try to do the same on the waters of the South China sea to unarmed fishermen.

How come Vietnam can be superior then China? Vietnam were founded by China, The first three cities ( or the governing body ) were established 214BC in north of Vietnam, and immigrated many people there, at 204BC, the Qin dynasty was over throw by a war, the governor of this place ZHAO TUO declared himself the king, the year 111BC, HAN Dynasty bring this rear back again. For the next 2000years, when china strong, Vietnam is part of China, when China are in chaos and weak, Vietnam semi independent, until year 1884, the French take over Vietnam, and invented a language for Vietnam, before the Vietnam written all in Chinese and most of the kings were from mainland of China.
Yeah, North Vietnam was ruled by China for 1000 years, then they broke away around 1000. They were free until the Mongols, then free again until French invasion in 1788. It was actually French lead Indian troops which secured our first beach head. We then started full scale annexation in 1858 conquering the rest of the country and defeating China for the rest a couple decades later. We held unto it until 1954, a good hundred years or more under our control.

What makes Vietnamese better than Chinese soldiers? The will to fight, no one fights harder. We defeated them over three wars yet they still fight until we say enough is enough and quit. But what you lost more troops in 38 days than we did in 38 years of occupation. You lost half what the Americans did in 10 years in 38 days. PLA doesn't fight well. Hell, you lost half a million in Korea just to keep a failed state that is a drain on the Chinese economy. Your Chicom leadership makes bad decisions. That is why they are better.
 

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Vietnam for PRC is like ambition; for Vietnamese, it is a matter of survival.

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You Indians like to brag about the Vietnamese bravery. China help Vietnam fought the French, and then fought the USA, without China help, Vietnam can not win, at lest 20000 Chinese soldiers were in Vietnam directly in the war, responsible for air defence and logistic, many weapons were from china. In 1979, China have problem with Vietnam because Vietnam invasion of Cambodia, China give Vietnam pressure to withdraw, and in this war, Vietnam for sure suffer much more loses than China, but China found out that after the disastrous culture revolution, China army need training, since 1979 until 1989, for ten years, we forget Vietnam on the border, the border is the mountain ridge, China took all the ridges, the war not big scale, but very bloody. Vietnam prove to be inferior than China for the spirit and planning. For this 10years, China business as usual, all armies sent some the representative to fought this border war as training, the same time china make a big development, but Vietnam lost whole 10 years, and ask to resume a normal relation with China.
How come Vietnam can be superior then China? Vietnam were founded by China, The first three cities ( or the governing body ) were established 214BC in north of Vietnam, and immigrated many people there, at 204BC, the Qin dynasty was over throw by a war, the governor of this place ZHAO TUO declared himself the king, the year 111BC, HAN Dynasty bring this rear back again. For the next 2000years, when china strong, Vietnam is part of China, when China are in chaos and weak, Vietnam semi independent, until year 1884, the French take over Vietnam, and invented a language for Vietnam, before the Vietnam written all in Chinese and most of the kings were from mainland of China.
I did not say Vietnamese are braver than Chinese, probably they are, what I have mentioned is that how they trashed a much bigger army (i.e PLA) fair and square/ Hands down with vintage weapons and how PLA ran back with bruises and never dared to enter Vietnam again.

As per your contention that you helped them fight US, France et al; who was fighting their war? You? No, Brave Vietnamese fought the war and won - not you, so stop claiming that it was your victory, because you were never directly involved, if you would have been involved you would have been bombed to stone age by the US. You were shyt scared of US presence in your neighborhood, hence you supplied arms that's it, there was more presence of Soviets (i.e USSR) in Vietnam than Chinese, even they never claimed victory, how can you? It was a pure Vietnamese valor that gave them victory not chicoms!

According to your Chicom history and your indoctrination whole of South-East Asia if not whole of Asia is Chinese territory, your concocted history does not prove shyt. If I go by your logic, China have been over run by Mongolia in the past hence China belongs to magnolia, Brits were your over lords hence China belongs to Brits, Chinese used to pay tributes to Indian Kings for protection hence China belongs to India....now go and read some gud history books not what CCP has taught you!
 
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If I go by your logic, China have been over run by Mongolia in the past hence China belongs to magnolia, Brits were your over lords hence China belongs to Brits, Chinese used to pay tributes to Indian Kings for protection hence China belongs to India....now go and read some gud history books not what CCP has taught you!
Good one! LOL! :pound:
 

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Vietnam for PRC is like ambition; for Vietnamese, it is a matter of survival.

When pushed to the wall, a person will do or die.
The Viets are more likely to do than die. This pic is a sample of that.

 

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^^^^^ Bloody hell!!! Their skinny women are better than PLA....I would like to make a correction to my last post and would like to say that - YES Vietnamese are Braver than PLA!!
 

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hope soon will be out of south china sea and sprately iceland also
 

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If they are willing to fight we shouldn't hesitate to supply weapons.
 

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Dear dude, my last post only tell you some thing about China and Vietnam history relationship, but I am accused of "claiming Vietnam belong to China", please look careful again, when ever I have made such a statement?
Vietnam took less than 300 Chinese prisoner of war in the 1979 war, but China took more than 2000 Vietnamese prisoner of war. then the border war followed, which lasted for almost 10years, when the Vietnamese government asked to stop, all the mountain peak were under China control, the border are all forest mountains you know, you must control high point, the mountainous terrain is the reason Vietnam can fight China.
When the border war stopped, the line have to be decide again, China return some mountain peaks and keep some, the result is in China's favor.
As for the weaponries, in 1979, China was in a very bad situation, still recovering from the disastrous culture revolution, what our air force only have were j6, not giving any support in the action. Tanks were old 56type, China imported the first artillery radar in 1984. You can not imagine China's difficult situation in the 1960's and 70's, CHINA had a war with the south Vietnam on the sea in 1974, south Vietnam had 3 USA made destroyers, and one frigate, total tonnage 1776 +1776+1590+650=5792. China south sea fleet can send two submarine hunter, tonnage each 227, and two minesweeper, each 375 ton, total tonnage 1304. the result of the war, the south Vietnam frigate sunk, the 3 destroyers run away, two of them seriously injured. The second day China took 3 island from Vietnam, take 49prisoner of war. Even at the end of 1960's China fought the mighty Soviet on the border. In the 50's China fought the USA led UN army in Korea, at beginning of Korea war, all China only find 800 trucks can move, but we push them all back to the 38 degree line.
 

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Army to Have Another BrahMos Missile Regiment

Army to Have Another BrahMos Missile Regiment




As part of efforts to upgrade military capabilities in the north-east, the induction of an advanced variant of the 290-km range supersonic cruise missile in the army for mountain warfare has been approved by the government.


The approval by the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) -- Ministry's apex decision making body-- will pave the way for induction of the fourth missile regiment in the army, Defence Ministry sources told PTI here.


The sanction for inducting a regiment of the Block III steep-dive variant of the BrahMos, granted recently in a DAC meeting chaired by the Defence Minister, is expected to enhance the lethality of army's firepower in the north-east region.


The steep-dive attack cruise missile can hit enemy targets hidden in the shadows of mountains, they said.


The army has inducted a total of three regiments already including two of the Block II variant, which can precisely hit the intended enemy building or assets even in a cluster of buildings.





In the backdrop of massive military infrastructure buildup by China in its areas along the frontiers, India has taken several measures to improve its preparedness in the north-east.


These steps include deployment of two squadrons of the Su-30 MKI fighter jet aircraft in Tezpur and Chhabua in Assam and raising of two mountain divisions for deployment in Arunachal Pradesh and adjoining areas.


The government also revised its old military doctrine of not developing roads along the border and is working on developing over 70 strategic roads on the Sino-Indian border.


BrahMos is a stealth supersonic cruise missile that can be launched from submarines, ships, aircraft or land and has been inducted in all the three services.
FILED ON: SEP 23, 2011


news.outlookindia.com | Army to Have Another BrahMos Missile Regiment
 

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Great news. recently, I read that India is planning to deploy 500 Brahmos in next few years. :india: :brahmos:
 

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It's time to replace the remaining block 1 regiment with Block 3 missiles.
 

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gooooooooood news we have to diploy those missiles mainly north east to couter chineese threat and thus we can reduce the gap china have in their superior numbers in armour and infantry and infustructure, in the conflict time ,a salvo of those missiles can scorch enemy eqipment and man in a very few moments and create fear in their mind.
 

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