BrahMos Cruise Missile

[lodaxstax]

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you are essentially saying the same thing which i'am saying. bhrahmos is all good and all. the question is despite all that is good in Bhrahmos, why hasnt Russia inducted any of it. they dont seem to be too much in awe of the system no matter how good it is.

 

[Agantrope]

you are essentially saying the same thing which i'am saying. bhrahmos is all good and all. the question is despite all that is good in Bhrahmos, why hasnt Russia inducted any of it. they dont seem to be too much in awe of the system no matter how good it is.

Still there is a missile that is very much swifter than the Brahmos and the name of that gentle Missile is called as the Ship Wreck.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/ss-n-19-specs.htm

So when you have a powerful bull than this Brahmos why there is need to buy a inferior one.

What the good thing with the brahmos is the navigation system which is very much intelligent and superior to the Granit as well as Yankot.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

The shipwreck missile was designed for use against US/NATO CBG's, the missile was mostly placed in submarines, it was reported the Kursk was carrying 24 of these missiles??The missile is bigger than Brahmos and is difficult to use on different platforms.

 

[nrj]

Airborne laser weapons can destroy hypersonic missile like Brmahos IMO since system like YAL-1 will take care of Bramhos like missiles in boost phase itself...

Same goes if we consider Beam based BMD systems incorporated on USN ships...

 

[LETHALFORCE]

NRJ these systems are on the drawing board and even when implemented will only have a few milliseconds to seconds to do their job, no one has advanced to the point where they can defend against hypersonic missiles. The airborne laser is more for ballistic missiles in the upper atmosphere and more or less useless against cruise missiles.

 

[Agantrope]

Airborne laser weapons can destroy hypersonic missile like Brmahos IMO since system like YAL-1 will take care of Bramhos like missiles in boost phase itself...

Same goes if we consider Beam based BMD systems incorporated on USN ships...

For Air-borne laser the power requirement is very high (sometimes in >500kW). So it is not feasible to put that system in the AC or any objects over the earth. If it possible it strongly feel that it can be done only in the terminal phase and the technology is still infant stage.

 

[nrj]

Terminal phase destruction of hypersonic missile like Bramhos is very very difficult IMO.

I mean i can't even think about the what level of precision it'll require to shoot Hypersonic missile in terminal phase...

Hopefully we'll get answer when we test desi beam weapon against Bramhos enemy bed &/or unless we are at war with yankees... ;]

 

[nandu]

Russia begins airborne BRAHMOS production

An artistic impression of BRAHMOS supersonic cruise missile fitted in Su-30 MKI

MOSCOW (BNS): Russia has started the production of airborne version of India-Russia jointly developed BRAHMOS missile, to fit it in the IAF's Su-30MKI fighter aircraft by 2012, a media report said.

According to a news report by The Hindu, the first few missiles for factory tests have been manufactured at the Strela production association in the Orenburg Region, the Regnum news agency reported quoting regional government head Sergei Grachyov.

Serial production of the missile will be done in both India and Russia to meet the demands.

The air-launched version of the BRAHMOS missile will be 500 kg lighter than its original weight of 2.55-tonne. The reduced weight and additional rear fins will give aerodynamic stability to the missile, during separation from the aircraft and launch.

The range and speed of the supersonic cruise missile will remain the same as that of its land and ship-launched versions.

The required modifications in SU 30-MKI for interface with the missile launcher and integration with the weapon control of the aircraft is being carried out by Sukhoi Corporation.

Sukhoi is also trying to fit the missile under the belly of Su-30MKI and integrate it into the aircraft fire control system, it said.

The BRAHMOS missile jointly developed by India's DRDO and Russia's NPO Mashinostroyeniya has a range of 290 km and can carry a conventional warhead of up to 300 kg.

http://www.brahmand.com/news/Russia-begins-airborne-BRAHMOS-production/3788/1/12.html

 

[nrj]

With a range of 290 km, the missile will allow the pilot to hit enemy vessels while staying well outside the reach of their air defences. Travelling at a top speed of Mach 2.8 barely 3-4 metres above the sea surface, the missile cannot be intercepted by any known weapon system in the world.

Now that will make it more or pure impossible for Radar to track Bramhos if enemy finds time to order interception....

"Initial studies suggest that we will be able to produce 250 more Su-30s armed with BrahMos missiles," said Vladimir Sautov, vice-president for marketing.

Thats a bold statement.. 250 is a large number... maybe its strategic...


Source

 

[nrj]

Brahmos to sink the carriers

FORD has not yet been built, but do missiles exist that can sink it? Here it one, the BrahMos, a $3 million Mach 3 cruise missile built by a joint venture between Russia and India. The next version, BrahMos II, will be ready in 2013 and will impact a target at more than five times the speed of sound.

A new F/A-18 Super Hornet fighter costs $50 million and USS FORD will carry 90. But for the cost of just two Hornets an enemy can buy three dozen BrahMos missiles, enough to put the entire battlegroup out of action.

Source

 

[nandu]

First BrahMos Subsystems Delivery Set

India's BrahMos Aerospace Thiruvananthapuram Ltd (BATL) is ready to deliver the first set of critical subsystems for the supersonic cruise missile BrahMos.

BATL Executive Director N.R. Vishnu Kartha tells Aviation Week during a site visit that the facility is making nine metallic subsystems for the missile. "We have an order for 20 sets. The first set is ready and BATL hopes to complete [the] remaining [sets] within a year," Vishnu Kartha said. "Further sets will be ordered after qualification tests."

BATL has also taken up development of Booster I & II of the BrahMos. "Booster I & II have a lot of complex machining, metal forming and welding. We are planning to develop the flow-forming technology for manufacturing the tubes required for these boosters," Vishnu Kartha said.

BATL is one of the two work centers that the Indo-Russian joint venture BrahMos Aerospace Pvt Ltd formed between India's Defense Research and Development Organization (DRDO) and Russia's NPO Mashinostroyenia. BATL production facilities support the needs of the Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO), DRDO and the Bhabha Atomic Research Center (BARC). The second work center is the BrahMos Integration Center (BIC) in Hyderabad.

BATL was formed in 2007-08 following the government's decision to take over the public sector undertaking KELTEC. "BATL for the first time made profits last year and its trajectory is very healthy, boosting the aerospace activities in this region. The Kerala government is extending all help to the firm so that more projects of national importance would be assigned to BATL. In addition to employment generation, the facility has become a showpiece for Kerala's aerospace and defense might along with Vikram Sarabhai Space Center (VSSC)," a senior government official tells Aviation Week.

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gene...eadline=First BrahMos Subsystems Delivery Set

 

[death.by.chocolate]

Now that will make it more or pure impossible for Radar to track Bramhos if enemy finds time to order interception....

'Pure impossible' what does that even mean? Brahmos is easily detected both by radar and IRST. In fact, the heat signature of this missile will make infra-red sensors sing and dance with joy.

 

[Daredevil]

'Pure impossible' what does that even mean? Brahmos is easily detected both by radar and IRST. In fact, the heat signature of this missile will make infra-red sensors sing and dance with joy.

It doesn't matter if Radars/IRSTs sing and dance upon Brahmos detection because there will be hardly any reaction time to intercept it due to its sheer speed. There is no precedence that any supersonic cruise missile has been intercepted.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

US navy has RAM to protect the ships but navy personnel have said the system will be ineffective against missiles flying faster than MACH 2.5.

http://navybuddies.com/launcher/ram.htm

 

[death.by.chocolate]

It doesn't matter if Radars/IRSTs sing and dance upon Brahmos detection because there will be hardly any reaction time to intercept it due to its sheer speed. There is no precedence that any supersonic cruise missile has been intercepted.

Clearly you and many here are misinformed, there are several layers of defense against a supersonic anti-ship cruise missile.
Google ESSM (Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile), in the product brochure the makers Raytheon claim it is capable of intercepting the Brahmos (turn to page 2). Not to mention SM-2 or LRCR.

http://www.raytheon.com/capabilitie...cuments/content/rtn_rms_ps_essm_datasheet.pdf

There is no precedence that any supersonic cruise missile has been intercepted.

Wrong, supersonic cruise missiles have routinely been intercepted by several means in tests conducted by the US Navy, LM, Raytheon and Boeing.

 

[death.by.chocolate]

US navy has RAM to protect the ships but navy personnel have said the system will be ineffective against missiles flying faster than MACH 2.5.

http://navybuddies.com/launcher/ram.htm

Your very own source contradicts your assertion.

The Block 1 upgrade program was successfully completed in August 1999 with a series of operational tests to demonstrate the system's introduction maturity. In 10 scenarios, real Anti-Ship Missiles and supersonic Vandal target missiles (Mach 2.5) were intercepted and destroyed under realistic conditions. RAM Block 1 achieved first-shot kills on every target in its presented scenarios, including sea-skimming, diving and highly maneuvering profiles in both single and stream attacks.

why do you say Mach 2.8 interception is not possible?

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Your very own source contradicts your assertion.




why do you say Mach 2.8 interception is not possible?

post a link where it has been done

 

[death.by.chocolate]

You're the one to make the claim - back it up.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

You're the one to make the claim - back it up.

I made the claim RAM does not intercept beyond MACH 2.5 it is ineffective, I provided the link above , if you are saying you know another system which can intercept at MACH 2.8 post the link.

http://navybuddies.com/launcher/ram.htm

 

[death.by.chocolate]

post a link where it has been done

I feel you're nit picking Mach 2.5 or 2.8 it does not matter but I'm feeling generous.

MARC-R-282 solid-fueled ducted rocket/ramjet engine, which can propel the Coyote to speeds of up to Mach 2.8 at sea level

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/gqm163-ssst-a-tricky-coyote-to-match-wits-with-defenses-03155/