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Battle of Kohima and Imphal World war 2 Forgotten martyrs
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Let me play the Devil's advocate.There is hardly any controversy. Netaji's INA was fighting against British forces. Note that the Indian forces who fought for British Indian Army was serving Bristish interests and not Indian. They were in fact fighting the very force that was trying to liberate India from foreign forces.
Of course. But it was not realistically possible. The non co-operation movement can be linked to this.Let me play the Devil's advocate.
It was not only the Army which was working for British interest, but the whole of India, be the bureaucrat, police, lawyers, the traders (by selling to the British), the workers (working for British interests).
Actually, the whole of India should have boycotted anything British or serving British interest.
That is why I said Fallacy of the Undistributed Middle.Of course. But it was not realistically possible. The non co-operation movement can be linked to this.
All are patriots differentiated by the subtext - single act, collective act and organisation of a revolution.netaji was great. But it doesn't means other were inferior. What about bhagat singh. Many calls netaji as the one who first formed indian military but what about Vasudev Balwant Phadke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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he too left govt job and later formed army and fought against british. How all patriots was fake? What about bhagat singh,azad, gandhi,patel ? @Peter
yes sir, I am saying same. Everyone have difference ideology and different ways to serve his motherland.All are patriots differentiated by the subtext - single act, collective act and organisation of a revolution.
If any one serves British Indian Government how can he serve India?yes sir, I am saying same. Everyone have difference ideology and different ways to serve his motherland.
You must read and study or else you will trot out only memes about Gandhi.If any one serves British Indian Government how can he serve India?
@Ray that's why Gandhiji started non-cooperation movement.
I personally find no reason to honor British Indian army. Apart from very few wannabe British boot lickers, most were doing for $$$$.
Now why many common people helped British when they knew British was evil? Because Indian leaders only could have provided them promise(we will bring you heaven after Swaraj) but promise cant not solve your hunger problem, so they supported British just for $$$$
Over all British Indian army's loyalty to British was zero but who can uproot this evil which is certainly evil as we know? At least you or me cant, so until whole army revolts lets work for British to get $$$, when massive rebellion will start we attack British then.
Those Indian soldiers were from India but not of India.
'Mahatma fought for British army'
Sainik Samachar, a journal brought out by the Ministry of Defence, has whipped up a controversy by claiming that Mahatma Gandhi donned a British military uniform during the Second Boer War (1899–1902).
Historians, however, insist that Gandhi, the quintessential symbol of non-violent resistance against British rule, never fought alongside them in Africa.
An article published in the journal's edition dated October 9, 1977, opens with these lines: "It might seem surprising but it is true that in the year 1899 Mahatma Gandhi donned a British military uniform." The article headlined "When Gandhi donned soldier's uniform" forms part of a coffee-table book being brought out by the defence ministry to mark the centenary of the defence journal on January 2, 2009.
The coffee-table book opens with congratulatory messages from the President, Prime Minister and the three service chiefs. Well-known historian Ramachandra Guha has trashed Sainik Samachar's claim that Gandhi was a British soldier. "Gandhi was never employed by the British forces. He had only raised a voluntary ambulance corps consisting purely of non-combatants to render medical aid to British troops. It is incorrect to say he served the British army," he told HT.
The war most commonly referred to as the Boer War is the Second Boer War.
It was a protracted conflict involving a substantial number of British troops and ended with the conversion of Boer republics into British colonies with an assurance of limited self-governance.
Gandhi's ambulance corps, a non-military entity, was raised with some 1,100 men.
Insisting that Gandhi was a British soldier, the Sainik Samachar article says: "This was not an easy decision for Gandhi to take and it became still more difficult for the Britishers to accept Gandhi as a soldier. But the circumstances forced it."
The article says Gandhi saw the Boer War as a golden opportunity for India to win its freedom by helping the British. It concludes saying that Gandhi never donned the military uniform after 1900 but remained a soldier in spirit.
'Mahatma fought for British army' - Hindustan Times
One would think that the British were evil from the day they started occupying what is called India today.Now why many common people helped British when they knew British was evil?
Really? Japan wanted INA to use against Anti-Japanese Burmese fighters, but Netaji refused because he said freedom fighter of 1 country cant be used against freedom fighter of another country.There was too much Japanese control and domination over INA. India would not have been "liberated". Just a part of the Japanese empire.
You are thinking too much. BIA was mercenary army like any Colonial army. Period.You must read and study or else you will trot out only memes about Gandhi.
Would this shock you? And would you say that you are not proud of him for what he did for India, inspite of what he did for the British?
Would you say Gandhi is from India but not of India as you say about the soldiers who died at Kohima?
One must have the courage and morals to stand up for reality and understand the compulsions of the time which made one do what.
Judging by hindsight would not do the people justice.
And hindsight history can be fudged to suit an agenda.
History is made and told as one would like one to know. The reality is sometimes lost and fiction become facts!
One would think that the British were evil from the day they started occupying what is called India today.
And what did they do?
Then Paki soldiers who killed 3 million Bengalis in 1971, should be forgiven as their officers and Government policy made them commit that atrocity. And WW2 German and Japanese soldiers who killed Millions of people should be forgiven as their reality and situation made them do that. So they should not have been tied in court.One must have the courage and morals to stand up for reality and understand the compulsions of the time which made one do what.
And Gandhi working for the British Army?You are thinking too much. BIA was mercenary army like any Colonial army. Period.
Take it as simple.
Then Paki soldiers who killed 3 million Bengalis in 1971, should be forgiven as their officers and Government policy made them commit that atrocity. And WW2 German and Japanese soldiers who killed Millions of people should be forgiven as their reality and situation made them do that. So they should not have been tied in court.
As for Gandhiji he was always under process of mental evolution, at first he supported British, then advocated dominion status and then total freedom.
The only thing I like about him is his non-cooperation theory, which was realistic.
As I said Gandhiji was always frustrated, for example when civil-disobedience was about to start then suddenly Gandhiji gave some proposals(with no connection with India's independence) to British that if these were accepted movement would be postponed.And Gandhi working for the British Army?
All fair, right?
Answer factually and not on fantasy.
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