Average Heights of Indians for different states

[Julian]

We already have olive/light brown skin, which is considered desirable by most Indians so we don't care about skin colour. The communities where dark skin dominates is also where colourism is most ubiquitous. That is the sad part. There is much more to attractiveness than skin colour.

Any explaination how Kerala comes ahead of Rajasthan in male height? This study is completely stupid, reality seen by eyes can not be denied by throwing some stats which are basically tissues of falsehood.

 

[PredictablyMalicious]

Any explaination how Kerala comes ahead of Rajasthan in male height? This study is completely stupid, reality seen by eyes can not be denied by throwing some stats which are basically tissues of falsehood.

Kerala is more developed than Rajasthan. The latter is one of the most backward states in India (BIMARU) and has poor health indicators (high malnutrition). If environment wasn't a factor, I would expect Rajasthanis to be near the top.

 

[Julian]

Kerala is more developed than Rajasthan. The latter is one of the most backward states in India (BIMARU) and has poor health indicators (high malnutrition). If environment wasn't a factor, I would expect Rajasthanis to be near the top.

Have you seen both Rajasthanis and Keralites? Man , dalits who are supposed to be poorest like Meghwals are way taller than average Keralites.
BTW, high malnutrition is there in nations like Uganda too but they beat Japan and Hongkong by a good margin. No one who has seen people of Barmer9 one of poorest districts) can say that they look smaller than normal guys from Kochi.

 

[PredictablyMalicious]

Have you seen both Rajasthanis and Keralites? Man , dalits who are supposed to be poorest like Meghwals are way taller than average Keralites.
BTW, high malnutrition is there in nations like Uganda too but they beat Japan and Hongkong by a good margin. No one who has seen people of Barmer9 one of poorest districts) can say that they look smaller than normal guys from Kochi.

Let's be realistic. Indians as a whole are not very tall. A comparison with Sub Saharan Africans is totally unwarranted. Even the tallest Indians (NW India) are not tall when compared to their European counterparts. THe main problems hindering Indian height is chronic malnutrition. Dietary lifestyles in India combined with high poverty ensure that Indians remain short when compared to their West Asian neighbours. The genetic potential (at least for NW India) is probably about 5'8"-5'9"

 

[POSSIBLE]

The present generation is way taller than 168 cm.

Exactly.

some of those are friggin short too
like wise I am 186cm but my neighbour is 166cm

 

[Julian]

Let's be realistic. Indians as a whole are not very tall. A comparison with Sub Saharan Africans is totally unwarranted. Even the tallest Indians (NW India) are not tall when compared to their European counterparts. THe main problems hindering Indian height is chronic malnutrition. Dietary lifestyles in India combined with high poverty ensure that Indians remain short when compared to their West Asian neighbours. The genetic potential (at least for NW India) is probably about 5'8"-5'9"

Even with poor nutrition, people of Pakhtun belt or Yemen are taller than richer Gujratis of US. Anyone can see this, however I agree that Indians are not very tall and in my view Indian girls are shorter than East Asians. Only some SE people like Khmers or Malys are shorter than us as a whole and Indians will not be able to match West Asian physique, different genes are what frame all this. West Asians are put in white category by US departments when it comes to declaring race in your column.

 

[PredictablyMalicious]

Even with poor nutrition, people of Pakhtun belt or Yemen are taller than richer Gujratis of US. Anyone can see this, however I agree that Indians are not very tall and in my view Indian girls are shorter than East Asians. Only some SE people like Khmers or Malys are shorter than us as a whole and Indians will not be able to match West Asian physique, different genes are what frame all this. West Asians are put in white category by US departments when it comes to declaring race in your column.

Yea and the US government is the authority on physical anthropology right?
Anyways I don't want to talk about this any longer.

 

[Julian]

Yea and the US government is the authority on physical anthropology right?
Anyways I don't want to talk about this any longer.

US is not authority but what I said is right, there is a column for whites which include Arabs and Berbers as well. Indians are put in Asian category even when they are not closer to East or South East Asian mongoloids at all.

 

[angeldude13]

We already have olive/light brown skin, which is considered desirable by most Indians so we don't care about skin colour. The communities where dark skin dominates is also where colourism is most ubiquitous. That is the sad part. There is much more to attractiveness than skin colour.

 

[Chimaji Appa]

That was what I said, Kashmiris are tall but do not have muscular body,they have been notable for being weak and are pleasure seeking.South Indians are quite militaristic and before British, every village had well trained soldiers. There are stories of south Indian mothers wishing to cut their breasts if it was reported that their sons ran away from battlefield.( What a great martial culture)
Kashmiris, Gujratis and Bengalis are not at all militaristic.
You are right about Keralites, Arabs settled among them, intermarried( Keralites were always free of Hindu restrictions) with them and so many of them began to be called "Mappilah" which is Tamil Malyalam term for son in laws.Today, muslims are called moplahs.
Sri Lankans also have semitic blood in them as they too mixed with Arab traders.

"Bengalis aren't a militaristic people" is probably one of the funniest things I have heard and is a typical example of false-regional streotypes. The only ruler in North India who could actually challenge Harsha was a bengali. Bengalis served in the armies of the Palas, Guptas, EIC, etc... Bengal has produced several powerful empires like the Palas and Sassanka, which is really impressive. Gour Govind Singh of Bengal actually humiliated the Turks twice through successful guerrilla tactics and Raja Ganesha overthrew the Bengali Sultanate and Pratapidtya gave a very tough fight to Akbar. The Bengal Sultanate was only muslim by name as native Bengalis almost dominated the entire army, and this bengali army repulsed Firuz Shah Tuglaq and his Turko-Afghan army. The Bengalis also consituted for a decent percentage of the army that subdued the Marathas, Sikhs, Nepalis, and even conquered all of India. Pray tell what is so poor about their military history? They may not be on par with Rajasthan or Tamil Nadu, but they were still superior to regions like Punjab.

Kashmiris under Lalitaditya humbled the Arab Caliphates, repulsed the Tibetans, and also may have repulsed an invasion of Yashovarman of Kannauj. The Kashmiris also repelled 2 of Mahmud of Ghaznis sieges. Kashmir was actually never conquered by the Muslims, but the throne was usurped by a coupde etat.

Gujaratis under Mulraja 2 destroyed Ghoris army in 1178 and forced Qutubudin Aibak to retreat from their capital. Jayabhata of the Lata Gurjaras also defeated the Arabs. The Vaghelas repulsed an invasion of Balban in the 1280s and one of illtutmish's generals, and forced illtutmish to retreat from the Guhilots territory.

 

[Indo-Aryan]

Just Mary some Vikings and we would be back to 6 feet

Our reduced heights are probably due to lack of nutrition at birth and over the millennium has made it a genetic guess not.

 

[Chimaji Appa]

Just Mary some Vikings and we would be back to 6 feet

Our reduced heights are probably due to lack of nutrition at birth and over the millennium has made it a genetic guess not.

Yes. Indians used to be much taller, and this was observed by everyone from Alexander to the Early british explorers. Just go read about how many famines happened in the Raj Era lol.

 

[Chimaji Appa]

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Yes. Himachalis live in mountainous region so that explains their short height. Jammu is in plains. Only Upper Jammu region is mountainous and that region is not densely populated. Most Dogras live in plains. Kashmiris live in Kashmir valley and valleys are flat like plains. That's why Dogras and kashmiris are taller than himachalis.

Then can you please explain me why my entire patrilineal line has been at least 5 foot 10?

 

[Kchontha]

We need tall and athletic one rather than just a lanky one. North Westerners have good heights but hardly athleticism barring some exceptions. North easterners is of average height and muscular.

 

[Tibarn]

Sci-Hub | Mesolithic Foragers of the Ganges Plain. A Companion to South Asia in the Past, 101–124 | 10.1002/9781119055280.ch8

Mesolithic Foragers of the Ganges Plain: Pathology, Stature, and Subsistence

 

[Chimaji Appa]

Sci-Hub | Mesolithic Foragers of the Ganges Plain. A Companion to South Asia in the Past, 101–124 | 10.1002/9781119055280.ch8

Mesolithic Foragers of the Ganges Plain: Pathology, Stature, and Subsistence
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Is the data for Europe based on the tribals?

 

[Tibarn]

Is the data for Europe based on the tribals?

All data is based on Mesolithic populations of India/W.Europe/E.Europe

It's the population between the hunter-gatherers and the full-fledged agriculturalists.

The link I posted has the whole paper if you want to read it.

 

[Thechristian]

I disagree, anyone who has visited Rajasthan and Kerala will tell you that Rajasthanis like Jats, Gurjars, Meenas, Rajputs and even Brahmins are taller than Keralites. The study is stupid as only some select groups are tall in Kerala but they are too few to make that difference.

Among Indians, Jats of Punjab and Dogras are shorter by slight margin than Kashmiri males but are well built. I have not seen strong and robust Kashmiris,infact South Indians have denser bodies unlike lean and thin Kashmiris which explains their poor military record.

I think that Tamilians are shortest in India.

This is a nonsensical argument to make .You claim the study to be stupid on what basis, you said they only chose select groups of people that are tall and claim them to be too small to make a difference .Yet you have no backing on this claim ,please tell me what studies you are referring to here and what groups are highlighted in the studies.

If you just look at malayali actors male ,many of them are tall dulqur is 5'9 tovino 5'10 mamooty is 5'11 babu anthony 6'3 (there are 2 actors called this and they are both that height) ,suresh gopi 6'1, prithviraj 5'11,lal 6'3 ,captain raju 6'3,jayram 6'. If you compare heights of famous bollywood actors and mallu actors ,mallu actors are taller .Many of the actors i named are from older generations and they arent new comers either .

In England 80% mallu boys i know that are around the age of 18 is 5'9 and above .This data is reflective of kerala .Im 5'10 and when i go to kerala i dont feel specially tall at all ,my father is 5'11 ,my sisters all are 5'5 or 5'8,my brother in laws are 6'1 5'10 and 5'7.

 

[Lonewolf]

This is a nonsensical argument to make .You claim the study to be stupid on what basis, you said they only chose select groups of people that are tall and claim them to be too small to make a difference .Yet you have no backing on this claim ,please tell me what studies you are referring to here and what groups are highlighted in the studies.

If you just look at malayali actors male ,many of them are tall dulqur is 5'9 tovino 5'10 mamooty is 5'11 babu anthony 6'3 (there are 2 actors called this and they are both that height) ,suresh gopi 6'1, prithviraj 5'11,lal 6'3 ,captain raju 6'3,jayram 6'. If you compare heights of famous bollywood actors and mallu actors ,mallu actors are taller .Many of the actors i named are from older generations and they arent new comers either .

In England 80% mallu boys i know that are around the age of 18 is 5'9 and above .This data is reflective of kerala .Im 5'10 and when i go to kerala i dont feel specially tall at all ,my father is 5'11 ,my sisters all are 5'5 or 5'8,my brother in laws are 6'1 5'10 and 5'7.

How free one has to be yo reply to a inactive 10 yr old thread

 

[DingDong]

This is a nonsensical argument to make .You claim the study to be stupid on what basis, you said they only chose select groups of people that are tall and claim them to be too small to make a difference .Yet you have no backing on this claim ,please tell me what studies you are referring to here and what groups are highlighted in the studies.

If you just look at malayali actors male ,many of them are tall dulqur is 5'9 tovino 5'10 mamooty is 5'11 babu anthony 6'3 (there are 2 actors called this and they are both that height) ,suresh gopi 6'1, prithviraj 5'11,lal 6'3 ,captain raju 6'3,jayram 6'. If you compare heights of famous bollywood actors and mallu actors ,mallu actors are taller .Many of the actors i named are from older generations and they arent new comers either .

In England 80% mallu boys i know that are around the age of 18 is 5'9 and above .This data is reflective of kerala .Im 5'10 and when i go to kerala i dont feel specially tall at all ,my father is 5'11 ,my sisters all are 5'5 or 5'8,my brother in laws are 6'1 5'10 and 5'7.

Yes, Kerala Stronq just like it's economy