Aryan Invasion Hypothesis

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Presence of three different paternal lineages among North Indians: A study of 560 Y chromosomes

Three distinct lineages were revealed based upon 13 haplogroups. The first was a Central Asian lineage harbouring haplogroups R1 and R2. The second lineage was of Middle-Eastern origin represented by haplogroups J2*, Shia-specific E1b1b1, and to some extent G* and L*. The third was the indigenous Indian Y-lineage represented by haplogroups H1*, F*, C* and O*. Haplogroup E1b1b1 was observed in Shias only.

The results revealed that a substantial part of today’s North Indian paternal gene pool was contributed by Central Asian lineages who are Indo-European speakers, suggesting that extant Indian caste groups are primarily the descendants of Indo-European migrants. The presence of haplogroup E in Shias, first reported in this study, suggests a genetic distinction between the two Indo Muslim sects. The findings of the present study provide insights into prehistoric and early historic patterns of migration into India and the evolution of Indian populations in recent history.

Indian society predominantly revolves around the concept of caste, or the Caste System, a strong socio-cultural conglomerate of traditions that have created and maintained a great number of hierarchically arranged endogamous groups (Bamshad et al. 2001). This unique social system exists only in India. One impact of the system is that a person’s fate, including even the choice of marriage partner, is largely determined at his/her birth. The Hindu caste system plays a major role in social and economic organization of the Indian population. In this system, the society is divided into four broad castes: (from low to high) Sudras, Vaishyas, Kshatriyas and Brahmins. The rules that generally prevent marriages between castes may have contributed to population substructure and the pattern of genetic diversity. Another important feature in Indian population history was the occurrence of four separate or distinct waves of migration into the subcontinent (Cordaux et al. 2004): (i) an ancient Palaeolithic migration by modern humans, (ii) an early Neolithic migration, probably via Proto-Dravidian speakers from the eastern horn of the Fertile Crescent, (iii) an influx of Indo-European speakers, and (iv) a migration from East/Southeast Asians, i.e. Tibeto-Burman speakers. In addition to these migrations, India has also experienced colonization by Europeans, which may have also contributed to the ethnic multiplicity. Furthermore, it has been reported (Cordaux et al. 2004) that the Y lineages of Indian castes are more closely related to Central Asians than to Indian tribal populations, suggesting that Indian caste groups are primarily the descendants of Indo-European migrants.
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Indigenous and foreign Y-chromosomes characterize the Lingayat and Vokkaliga populations of Southwest India

Previous studies have shown that India's vast coastal rim played an important role in the dispersal of modern humans out of Africa but the Karnataka state, which is located on the southwest coast of India, remains poorly characterized genetically.

The high level of L1-M76 chromosomes in Vokkaligas suggests an agricultural expansion in the region, while the predominance of R1a1a1b2-Z93 and J2a-M410 lineages in Lingayat indicates gene flow from neighboring south Indian populations and West Asia, respectively. Lingayat (0.9981) also exhibits a relatively high haplotype diversity compared to Vokkaliga (0.9901), supporting the historical record that Lingayat originated from multiple source populations.


In the present study, two Dravidian populations, namely Lingayat (N=101) and Vokkaliga (N=102), who represent the two major communities of Karnataka state, were examined using high-resolution analyses of Y-chromosome single nucleotide polymorphisms (Y-SNPs) and seventeen short tandem repeat (Y-STR) loci. Our results revealed that the majority of Lingayat and Vokkaliga paternal gene pools is composed of four Y-chromosomal haplogroups (H, L, F* and R2) that are frequent in the Indian subcontinent.
 

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We wuz Aryanz, Shudras, Ungabunga, Scythians
You Can't Make This Sh*t Up:

"India is known for its vast human diversity, consisting of more than four and a half thousand anthropologically well-defined populations. Each population differs in terms of language, culture, physical features and, most importantly, genetic architecture. The size of populations varies from a few hundred to millions. Based on the social structure, Indians are classified into various caste, tribe and religious groups. These social classifications are very rigid and have remained undisturbed by emerging urbanisation and cultural changes. The variable social customs, strict endogamy marriage practices, long-term isolation and evolutionary forces have added immensely to the diversification of the Indian populations. These factors have also led to these populations acquiring a set of Indian-specific genetic variations responsible for various diseases in India."


Rakesh Tamang & Kumarasamy Thangaraj
Investigative Genetics volume 3, Article number: 20 (2012)
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How much ever proof we post on this thread makes zilch difference unless marxist bs is thrown out or young children are forced to read alternative sources.

Baki pata hai ki school main bas ratna aur ugalna hota hai to get good marks. But it sticks in the brain and take good amount of years to see light thereafter.
 

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Rig Veda 7.6.1

pra samrājo asurasya praśastiṃ puṃsaḥ kṛṣṭīnāmanumādyasya |
indrasyeva pra tavasas kṛtāni vande dāruṃ vandamānovivakmi ||

PRAISE of the Asura, high imperial Ruler, the Manly One in whom the folk shall triumph-
I laud his deeds who is as strong as Indra, and lauding celebrate the Fort-destroyer.

Ain't that an interesting hymn 😁
 

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Geographically, Europe is a western promontory of Asia, surrounded by water on three sides. The oscillations of the Gulf Stream have led to rapid climate fluctuations that likely have had major effects on the spread and extinction of archaic human populations, including the Neanderthals. For modern humans, however, and especially during the warmth and stability of the last 11,500 years (the Holocene), the peninsula has facilitated maritime mobility around the resource-rich littoral zone, leading to dense exchange networks as well as to population growth across the diverse societies that have sprung up amidst its varied and tightly packed ecological zones. Europe is itself not really a continent, geographically speaking; and indeed, Europeans share their basic pattern of mtDNA variation — in other words, the range of major basal clades, or ‘haplogroups’— with people in Southwest Asia, and to some extent also in Central Asia, as well as — with a substantial reduction in diversity— in North Africa. This is partly true also for the Y chromosome, but with some complications.


The most ancient mtDNA lineages in Europe belong to haplogroup U5 and U8, which appear to have originated within Europe from the root of haplogroup U. U8 appears to have an age of c. 50,000 years in Europe, although its subclade K appears in the Near East around 30 kya).

Y-chromosome haplogroups implicated in Late Glacial or postglacial expansions form the majority of lineages in the continent today. More surprising is the status of Y-chromosome haplogroup R1, which, unlike mtDNA haplogroup I, is not indigenous to West Eurasia but appears to have originated in South Asia, possibly in the early settlements associated with the southern route dispersal. This appears better substantiated than the alternative suggestion of a Central Asian origin.

Two major subclades of R1 appear in Europe: R1b in the west and R1a in the north-east. It has been suggested that R1b mirrors mtDNA haplogroup H and the forerunner of V in arriving from the east shortly after the LGM. Then, with the Late Glacial, its main subclade R1b1b2 expanded into western and central Europe, with a possible expansion at the same time from Anatolia. R1a might then represent an expansion from an eastern refuge, perhaps in the Ukraine, although it might also have been the result of more recent dispersals.


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Different studies realised on the Y chromosome no recombining SNPs, reveal indications of an expansion happened 25,000-20,000 years ago from the East towards the Mediterranean basin and that is related with the haplogroup I presence in Europe. To these expansion events followed a population contraction period associated with the last glacial event of 18,000 years ago and that is also in accord with the anthropological records. The situation radically changes when the climate ameliorated producing R1a and R1a1 haplogroup expansion in Europe from a possible glacial refuge in the Ukraine region approx 10,000-15,000 years ago, as well as the E3b haplogroup Neolithic expansion from the Middle East towards Europe, with also G and J2 haplogroups.

Until the recent Karafet publication (2008), the last main clade was corresponding with the amplest haplogroup R. The majority of the individuals belonging to this haplogroup are in the R1 subclade, that is represented mainly by two lineages: R1a and R1b (Brión et al. 2005b; Capelli et al. 2006; Cinnio÷lu et al. 2004; Wells et al. 2001). Probably R1b1 haplogroup corresponds to the descendants of the first modern humans who entered Europe. At the moment, it is the more frequent haplogroup in the West of this continent; it also appears in North of Africa and in low frequencies in Iran and Korea; peculiarly it is also in America and Australia but this is probably due to the recent European migrations.

 

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Rig Veda 7.6.1

pra samrājo asurasya praśastiṃ puṃsaḥ kṛṣṭīnāmanumādyasya |
indrasyeva pra tavasas kṛtāni vande dāruṃ vandamānovivakmi ||

PRAISE of the Asura, high imperial Ruler, the Manly One in whom the folk shall triumph-
I laud his deeds who is as strong as Indra, and lauding celebrate the Fort-destroyer.

Ain't that an interesting hymn 😁
Interesting in today's context or even by later vedic times but early Rig veda is replete with praise of the Asuras, with many Gods being extolled as Asuras, case in point the above hymn to Agni.
 

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Assur was a 3rd millennium bce old Assyrian God. Gets mentioned and equated with Indra in Mandala 7 of Rig Veda.

This in all Likely hood is a pre Iranian reference so it's likely a pre 1900bce-1200bce reference and not the recent one.
 

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arṇāṃsi cit paprathānā sudāsa indro ghādhānyakṛṇot supārā |
śardhantaṃ śimyumucathasya navyaḥ śāpaṃ sindhūnāmakṛṇodaśastīḥ ||


What though the floods spread widely, Indra made them shallow and easy for Sudās to traverse.
He, worthy of our praises, caused the Simyu, foe of our hymn, to curse the rivers' fury.


Why is Sindhu translated as river here ?
 

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A general Google search enquiry will tell you:

The rivers mentioned in the 7th Mandala are the Sarasvati, Asikni, Parusni and possibly the Yamuna.

But this hymn 7.18.5 in sanskrit mentions Sindhu which for odd reasons is translated vaguely as River.
 

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Your average Indus valley grand father falls for a steppe women.

IVC - 80%IranN + 20%AASI
Steppe - 100% Steppe MLBA

These 2 highly creative individuals give birth to 5 boys and 5 girls

Offspring -

40%IranN + 10% AASI + 50% steppe MLBA

As they grew up they migrated to different places.

Group 1 mixed with AASI rich (100%) population and reproduced

20% IranN + 55% AASI + 25% steppe
South and East South Asians descended

Group 2 mixed with IranN rich (60%In + 40% AASI) population and reproduced

70% IranN + 25% AASI + 25% steppe
West South Asians descended

Group 3 mixed with iranN-steppe-AASI source and reproduced

40%IranN + 15 AASI + 45% Steppe
JATS descended





And that's how it all started many millennia ago <3
 
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Your average Indus valley grand father falls for a steppe women.

IVC - 80%IranN + 20%AASI
Steppe - 100% Steppe MLBA

These 2 highly creative individuals give birth to 5 boys and 5 girls

Offspring -

40%IranN + 10% AASI + 50% steppe MLBA

As they grew up they migrated to different places.

Group 1 mixed with AASI rich (100%) population and reproduced

20% IranN + 55% AASI + 25% steppe
South and East South Asians descended

Group 2 mixed with IranN rich (60%In + 40% AASI) population and reproduced

70% IranN + 25% AASI + 25% steppe
West South Asians descended

Group 3 mixed with iranN-steppe-AASI source and reproduced

40%IranN + 15 AASI + 45% Steppe
JATS descended

And that's how it all started many millennia ago <3
My first cousin (paternal aunt's son) in the UK is married to a UP Brahmin Tiwari. She does not look Gujarati but she definitely looks like she has majority Steppe ancestry. Not surprising. Anyway.
Moreover, there may be connection between the Steppe migration and priestly caste and culture. The researchers say they found 10 out of 140 Indian groups with a higher amount of Steppe ancestry compared to Indus Valley ancestry. These two were titled “Brahmin_Tiwari” and “Brahmin_UP”. More generally groups of priestly status seem to have higher Steppe ancestry, suggesting those with this mixture may have had a central role in spreading Vedic culture. Brahmin communities of South Asia have documented cultural and patrilineal antecedents (such as gotra) since ancient times.
 

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20% IranN + 55% AASI + 25% steppe
South and East South Asians descended

Group 2 mixed with IranN rich (60%In + 40% AASI) population and reproduced

70% IranN + 25% AASI + 25% steppe
West South Asians descended

Group 3 mixed with iranN-steppe-AASI source and reproduced

40%IranN + 15 AASI + 45% Steppe
JATS descended
And that's how it all started many millennia ago <3
Meanwhile :hmm:
the ancestry of dalits (Onge and Iranian pastoral phenotype and genotype)
vis à vis
the typical genotype of an "upper caste"
:notbad:


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This is nonsense muslims are a single group of genes.

The classification is wrong.
:hmm: :hmm: :hmm:

No, they're not. The presence of haplogroup E in Shias, first reported in this study, suggests a genetic distinction between the two Indo Muslim sects.

Three distinct lineages were revealed based upon 13 haplogroups. The first was a Central Asian lineage harbouring haplogroups R1 and R2. The second lineage was of Middle-Eastern origin represented by haplogroups J2*, Shia-specific E1b1b1, and to some extent G* and L*. The third was the indigenous Indian Y-lineage represented by haplogroups H1*, F*, C* and O*. Haplogroup E1b1b1 was observed in Shias only.
 

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:hmm: :hmm: :hmm:

No, they're not. The presence of haplogroup E in Shias, first reported in this study, suggests a genetic distinction between the two Indo Muslim sects.

I'm pretty sure Gujarati Muslims are different from other Muslims.

Gujaratis form a distinct cluster. 100% bootstrap support for a Gujarati grouping: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread...100-bootstrap-support-for-a-Gujarati-grouping
 

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