Any Hindu can be priest: SC

[Mad Indian]

Do you think you and your friend have talked sense anytime ??? I give you some but your friend has done nothing but judging others and labeling and issuing certificates to others like Khujli. I can do the same and if you ask me, you people are labeling others as bigots but simultaneously acting like one and provoke others to do something which they would probably never do at ground level. Not all, some here are real jerk and get sadistic entertainment in doing so.

YOu mean like the way you claimed LCs are only good for smoking weed and fucking prostitutes? Keep crying victim castist filth, when bigots like you are the worst scum on Humanity. If this is what an average patel is like, I guess I am wrong about patel reservation. May be these castist scum do need to be fucked by reservation even more.

 

[sjaswal]

@VIP, I hear you - having known you on Twitter and elsewhere for quite a while, I know that you are not the kind of casteist bastard like the other three scum on this thread. Your main angst is the education entrance where some deserving candidates do not get through. I trust you when you say that you are not really a casteist bastard, but are just angry with the unfair skew that is created due to the reservation system against you. I wouldn't be harsh with you, unlike MI and SGU to some extent.

I hear you. But frankly, threads like this one have opened my eyes to the real filth that lies within India. There is so much shit in people's minds - these shitbags really dream that their ancestors were raped by Caucasian invaders and wear that as a badge of pride! They abuse and mock large parts of the country, fellow-Hindus the maximum. They openly proclaim that "South of Bidar is just full of enemies", and keep this false superiority complex.

I can only imagine what the situation must in in the villages around the cow belt. This is the situation here. We guys living in civilized places like Mumbai, Ahmedabad, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Pune, etc. cannot fathom the lives of the LC in uncivilized and barbaric places in the nation.

If we want a solution that is long-term and makes everyone happy, just urbanize. Keep urbanizing, keep focusing on economic development, get rid of socialism and trim the government to the minimum. In the private sector, things will sort themselves out. If we follow these policies, the concept of reservation will become redundant in a couple of generations. Casteist bastards like the three in this thread will also go into extinction.

Himachal, punjab have high HDI than all of south indian states except kerela and people are more richer in agrarian rural punjab than your cities.
One doesn't have to live in concrete jungles to become more civilized or developed.

 

[VIP]

But it is immaterial because UCs do the same stuff. And many people do random stuff but still achieve good grades. You were trivializing the discussion by citing such points.

I'm not denying it, the difference is our beneficiaries are wasting their opportunity and don't do hard work ahead because they think that they'll always get free run, this attitude is the reason why they are not encouraging their fellow bros to study. I know citing such points gonna make me look a biased one but this is a reality a sad one which must be addressed by reforming the system, put a limit to use this benefit and see the drastic change in their conditions, I bet, these people are not blamed for their laziness but the system made by politicians.

 

[Bangalorean]

Himachal, punjab have high HDI than all of south indian states except kerela and people are more richer in agrarian rural punjab than your cities.
One doesn't have to live in concrete jungles to become more civilized or developed.

Of course, but who cares about facts on this thread? Everyone is spewing shit and the three casteist fools on this thread are all over the place with their vile race theories, disparaging 80% of the nation.

They want enemies and are spoiling for a fight, we will give them one. They don't understand any other language.

 

[VIP]

@VIP as I said, Castist bigots like you should have been made to become shudras, to sh0w what actual discrimination looks like . Then you castist bigots like you wont be crying like bitches about discrimination. You think it is dicrimination against your castes if LC are given reservation, well suck it castist bigot. You castist pigs . who think LC are good only for smoking weed deserve far worse. Cry crocodile tears all you want and wank on internet all you want. YOu or your RSS chutiyas who think they can end reservation can dream and do mental masturbations about it all you want. Nothing is going to happen. We are the 70%. Reservation is here to stay till castist gasbags are shown their place.

Lets see who really is intelligent once the historical handicap is corrected. TIll then cry your crocodile tears all you want

YOu mean like the way you claimed LCs are only good for smoking weed and fucking prostitutes? Keep crying victim castist filth, when bigots like you are the worst scum on Humanity. If this is what an average patel is like, I guess I am wrong about patel reservation. May be these castist scum do need to be fucked by reservation even more.

@Sakal Gharelu Ustad see, this is what I'm talking about, you're arguing that I made some statement which is by and large very much true but I didn't specify properly which I did afterwards but still look at this fellow abusing me and calling me a castist bigot and telling me I should be made Shudra
You people do the same, you make some statements, don't specify and when someone gets offended and say something stupid about UC vs LC, you label them castist bigot. Now see, same is true for you. Who's castist bigot ?? Even this fellow surpasses anyone here already labeled as UC castist bigot

On the record, my community isn't a UC, we worked hard and earned our status without reservation and I believe same can be achieved by any community, we need to encourage them to be more or less independent from government help.

 

[sabari]

Is there is any brave Tamil who can reply on jallikattu .because this issue need immediate attation.
Reply on" Jallikattu gets green light from HC Bench"

 

[Screambowl]

First they blame UC for something which happened 500 years back. And not by all as they generalize.

Even if today, youth from UC don't give a damn about caste, Morons here will remind them by blaming them. This is what happens the most.

And the morons expect that they should sit quite.

 

[Bangalorean]

First they blame UC for something which happened 500 years back. And not by all as they generalize.

Even if today, youth from UC don't give a damn about caste, Morons here will remind them by blaming them. This is what happens the most.

And the morons expect that they should sit quite.

I agree that no one should be punished for the crimes of their ancestors. Their ancestors might have done some unpleasant things, but that is no reason to take it out on the present-day living people.

However, people who SHOULD be punished, ostracized and beaten into submission are those who do it TODAY. In the present day. The people on this very thread who are making empty claims about their "pure blood" and gloating about their ancestors being raped by Caucasians (and taking pride and delight in it) and are claiming superiority and enemity with other sections of the nation based on their ancestors being raped, are the ones who need to be beaten down.

If one is not a casteist in his day to day life today, there is no cause for angst. I myself am a Brahmin, but I focus on the merits and demerits of the case/individual. And not the "birth" or "ancestry" shit.

 

[Screambowl]

I agree that no one should be punished for the crimes of their ancestors. Their ancestors might have done some unpleasant things, but that is no reason to take it out on the present-day living people.

However, people who SHOULD be punished, ostracized and beaten into submission are those who do it TODAY. In the present day. The people on this very thread who are making empty claims about their "pure blood" and gloating about their ancestors being raped by Caucasians (and taking pride and delight in it) and are claiming superiority and enemity with other sections of the nation based on their ancestors being raped, are the ones who need to be beaten down.

If one is not a casteist in his day to day life today, there is no cause for angst. I myself am a Brahmin, but I focus on the merits and demerits of the case/individual. And not the "birth" or "ancestry" shit.

The victim card is still played today , and as it happens in Bihar and UP the most. Where if LC get chance they try to discriminate UC, and vice versa.

So, one cannot say only forward class is casteist, the backward ones are too.


It would have been correct to say that Backward class are victims if they had not done the same discrimination against the forward class when they are in majority or in power.

Now you cannot trust the lower caste, even when you are not casteist, they will make you believe in this.

UC's are according to them casteist, wrong, bad, molesters., but how big casteist they themselves are is my point.

 

[Dark Soul]

really guys ?

mods should close this thread now

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

@Sakal Gharelu Ustad see, this is what I'm talking about, you're arguing that I made some statement which is by and large very much true but I didn't specify properly which I did afterwards but still look at this fellow abusing me and calling me a castist bigot and telling me I should be made Shudra
You people do the same, you make some statements, don't specify and when someone gets offended and say something stupid about UC vs LC, you label them castist bigot. Now see, same is true for you. Who's castist bigot ?? Even this fellow surpasses anyone here already labeled as UC castist bigot

On the record, my community isn't a UC, we worked hard and earned our status without reservation and I believe same can be achieved by any community, we need to encourage them to be more or less independent from government help.

You were the land owners in Gujarat i.e. patidars. So for practical purpose, there might have been discrimination but economically you had the means to uplift you. Patels are similar to Jats in that sense. But that does not mean LCs did not face discrimination. Also, the discrimination faced by you would be much less than a chamar. Lets be realistic about some issues and don't bring personal anecdotes to the issue.

LCs look like casteist but they are on the receiving end of discrimination. But I agree with you to the point that we do not want to convert LCs to black of America with a permanent pass to abuse the whites.

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

NO he is not. Do you really think LC, who would have been a doctor for the first time in his family and wpould likely would have to join work to support his family , or a first generation graduate in his family has the same kind of opportunity at becoming a Super specialist/PG as that of the entrenched UCs who would by now have second/third generation doctors and would not have to work to suport their families, who would have themselves well established now and so they can prepare for PG exams without worrying about earning and supporting their families ? And why are these castist filth butt hurt that SCs get their fair share of seats when they themselves pay their fair share of taxes? UC chutiyas want to eat LC money by wanting all the govt nsubsidised college seats for themselves, which are all paid by LC predominantly.

And as I already said, reservation is about sharing of govt power. BUT Castist bigots like to change it to be about economics. They can go fuck themselves into oblivion. Ambedkar was wrong about these filth. LC should have put these scumbags into shudras for 2000 years for correcting the mistakes of caste. They were too lenient on these filth by allowing them go unharmed

I will bring the free market argument here. You said once- why lazy women sit on their fat ass and not go out there and work.

Not all UCs have their family running private hospitals, should all of them too get reservation? People have different circumstances and they need to man up and face the heat i.e. work hard once they have used some state benefit.

But that does not mean, leave out the big govt. positions without reservation. The above case of doctors is very specific and does not apply to regular govt. jobs.

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

@asingh10 and @Screambowl - take your personal beliefs on PM. And fight as much as you can.

 

[Screambowl]

On first page, post #9.

Blame game started by a Wannabe brahmin against Brahmins

There was no need to make this post. A lot of things have happened in past. And this must not be generalized. The more you play the blame game, tougher will be to unite.

If we take account of everything what has happened in Past, the world will not exist.

If this post was not made, I would have not intervened.

Both are casteist

LC : they use their caste to get the resources

UC : they use their caste to get the resources

difference is the way of implementation.

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

On first page, post #9.

Blame game started by a Wannabe brahmin against Brahmins

There was no need to make this post. A lot of things have happened in past. And this must not be generalized. The more you play the blame game, tougher will be to unite.

If we take account of everything what has happened in Past, the world will not exist.

If this post was not made, I would have not intervened.

Both are casteist

LC : they use their caste to get the resources

UC : they use their caste to get the resources

difference is the way of implementation.

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1) why is he a wannabe brahmin? If he says he was born into a family, who are you to judge it?

2) He said nothing wrong in the sense that birth based Brahmin superiority attitude needs to change i.e. they need to be equal to all other Indians.

You started the whole trash by writing this http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/any-hindu-can-be-priest-sc.74529/page-2#post-1112774:

That's true..

Their main aim is to get upper cast woman. That's all.

Normally I refrain from such posts but this is a truth.

 

[VIP]

You were the land owners in Gujarat i.e. patidars. So for practical purpose, there might have been discrimination but economically you had the means to uplift you. Patels are similar to Jats in that sense. But that does not mean LCs did not face discrimination. Also, the discrimination faced by you would be much less than a chamar. Lets be realistic about some issues and don't bring personal anecdotes to the issue.

LCs look like casteist but they are on the receiving end of discrimination. But I agree with you to the point that we do not want to convert LCs to black of America with a permanent pass to abuse the whites.

For the record, owing lands wasn't a luxury and I agree we didn't face the discrimination like chamars, no comparison there in discrimination but many castes come under reserved category with situation just like us, they are the target of my point. No personal anecdotes, point is, having reservation for long time, many castes are still enjoying it which should be corrected. I'm glad you concur with point regarding abuse if we want to create an equal society.

 

[Screambowl]

1) why is he a wannabe brahmin? If he says he was born into a family, who are you to judge it?

2) He said nothing wrong in the sense that birth based Brahmin superiority attitude needs to change i.e. they need to be equal to all other Indians.

You started the whole trash by writing this http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/any-hindu-can-be-priest-sc.74529/page-2#post-1112774:

if you start the blame .. then counter will come.

one should have welcomed the decision even I welcome it.

But then, what does it mean by typing ''shoving the throats of Brahman, showing them real hierarchy.''

This is violence!!

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

For the record, owing lands wasn't a luxury and I agree we didn't face the discrimination like chamars, no comparison there in discrimination but many castes come under reserved category with situation just like us, they are the target of my point. No personal anecdotes, point is, having reservation for long time, many castes are still enjoying it which should be corrected. I'm glad you concur with point regarding abuse if we want to create an equal society.

I think one way to end it would be to give promotions based on castes as well. Pass the law such that all benefits expire in next 20-25 years. If the benefits need to continue, they should be passed by super-majority in the Parliament.

Till LCs do not form permanent part of upper tier in the bureaucracy, this whole game will continue to repeat.

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

if you start the blame .. then counter will come.

one should have welcomed the decision even I welcome it.

But then, what does it mean by typing ''shoving the throats of Brahman, showing them real hierarchy.''

This is violence!!

Do you comprehension problems? He said it for Brahmin supremacists, not for average Brahmin. Shoving down the throat is just a figure of speech. Don't get too emotional.

 

[Screambowl]

Do you comprehension problems? He said it for Brahmin supremacists, not for average Brahmin. Shoving down the throat is just a figure of speech. Don't get too emotional.

even I used figure of speech and freedom of speech in my texts and I mentioned, I do not generalize . Don't get hyper.