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Agni-5 on target, despite glitches

Three hours after the sun rose out of the lake-calm Bay of Bengal, another ball of fire, the Agni-5 Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile (IRBM), roared into the sky on Sunday morning.

Twenty minutes later, the warhead — a real atomic bomb in every respect except for a nuclear core — splashed down, almost 5,000 km away in the southern Indian Ocean. Two Indian ships were stationed there to capture the explosion, the footage relayed in real time to the Mission Control Centre here.

Surrounded by a wildly cheering throng of normally staid scientists and engineers from the Defence R&D Organisation, the DRDO chief, Avinash Chander, declared victory. "This (second launch of the Agni-5) is a perfect and complete success, meeting all our mission objectives. We have got the data right up to impact, including the terminal event," he said.

Hurdles
This eventually successful mission saw plenty of unforeseen drama, which had seemed a mere theoretical possibility when the day began, with the DRDO's leadership praying for success at a small temple on this island, about 150 km from Bhubaneswar, off the state's coastline. After that scientific nod to the need for divine support, a simulated political order for a nuclear strike was received, from New Delhi. Vice Admiral S P S Cheema, who heads the Strategic Forces Command (SFC), keyed in the appropriate launch codes and preparations began. Then, a fault was discovered in the telemetry systems of one of the ships positioned along the flight path, which meant data might not be gathered for part of the missile's flight. Drawing on their experience of tens of missile launches, the DRDO team decided to go ahead. The missing data, said Chander later, would be captured at various other telemetry stations.

The countdown began but was halted just 14 seconds from launch, when one of the missile components signalled a malfunction. By now, storm clouds were gathering over the island, the weather another concern. Mission Control quickly determined it was a false alarm and, amid knife-edge tension, the countdown began again. As the rocket engines burst into life and Agni-5 smoothly lifted off the launch pad, a roar went up from the packed gathering. After that, it was a textbook mission all the way.

Success
After 90 seconds, the giant 40-tonne first stage dropped away, having propelled Agni-5 to an altitude of about 36 km. About 75 seconds later, the 10-tonne stage-2 rocket was jettisoned, having propelled the missile up to 110 km. Four minutes after launch, with Agni-5 now 220 km above the earth, the 2.5-tonne stage-3 rocket fell away. By now, the 19 metre-high, 50-tonne missile that had blasted off from here was a mere 1.2-tonne projectile, hurtling through space at almost six km a second. Inside this was a simulated nuclear warhead and the navigation package that would guide it precisely to the impact point.

Re-entering the atmosphere about 80 kms above the earth, the missile encountered its final test, to maintain the temperature inside the projectile at a balmy 40 degrees Celsius, even as atmospheric friction heated the carbon composite outer casing to 2,500-3,000 degrees. Agni-5 passed that test, too; the warhead's arrival at the target was evident from the explosion visible on the live feed from the ship in the target area.

Said former SFC chief, Air Marshal K K Matthews, at a debriefing after the mission,"This was a special launch, one where I saw fantastic decision-making amidst great tension. We had three small-big problems and the decision could easily have been to cancel the launch."

Ahead
After its second successful Agni-5 test, DRDO is developing a canisterised version of the missile. Congratulating his scientists after the launch, the DRDO chief urged them to test-fire the canisterised Agni-5 within "a few months".

Chander also said Sunday's test had demonstrated that Agni-5 was ready for production. In fact, at least three test-flights of the canisterised Agni-5 (the form in which the operational missiles will be deployed) are planned before production begins. The production stage involves placing orders of 'long lead items' with suppliers well ahead of time and that is likely soon. The Agni-5 project has been cleared by the cabinet, which means funds can be allocated without lengthy procedures.

India's military has so far operationally deployed the Prithvi missile (350 km), the Agni-1 (1,000 km), Agni-2 (2,000 km) and Agni-3 (3,000 km). The Agni-5 will extend the reach of India's nuclear deterrent to 5,000 km, covering China, West Asia, Southeast Asia and large parts of Africa.

DRDO is simultaneously developing technologies for the Agni-6 missile. In an earlier conversation with Business Standard, the DRDO chief said Agni-6 would carry a massive three-tonne warhead, thrice the weight of the one-tonne-class warheads that these missiles have so far carried. This expanded payload will allow each Agni-6 missile to launch several nuclear warheads, called Multiple Independently Targetable Re-entry Vehicles (MIRVs), with each one capable of being directed towards a different target. Each warhead — called a Maneuverable Re-entry Vehicle (MARV) — can perform evasive maneuvers while hurtling towards its target, confusing enemy air defence missiles that are trying to destroy these mid-air.


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let me educate you on how this works - when i say 1KT (obviously a nuke) warhead it means the effective yield is 1000 tons of TNT. i was obviously mistaken in assuming that you would be able to understand this since you are on a defence forum - and here you are nitpicking on clauses like a lawyer. even if we assume Agni uses the most basic warhead designs (like the W-62 in a Mark12 reentry vehicle) the AgniV can carry 2 such warheads, total yielding= 340KT of TNT
Educate yourself by looking up W62 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia & Nuclear weapon yield - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1. Look this table and convince us that India have any thing that can yield 340 KT.
Nuclear weapons testing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you do not have a single success thermo nuclear test how can you have. Mega ton level warhead?


Date Name Yield (kT) Country Significance
1945-07-16 Trinity 18–20 USA First fission device test, first plutonium implosion detonation
1945-08-06 Little Boy 12–18 USA Bombing of Hiroshima, Japan, first detonation of an enriched uranium gun-type device, first use of a nuclear device in military combat.
1945-08-09 Fat Man 18–23 USA Bombing of Nagasaki, Japan, second and last use of a nuclear device in military combat.
1949-08-29 RDS-1 22 USSR First fission weapon test by the USSR
1952-10-03 Hurricane 25 UK First fission weapon test by the UK
1952-11-01 Ivy Mike 10,400 USA First cryogenic fusion fuel "staged" thermonuclear weapon, primarily a test device and not weaponized
1952-11-16 Ivy King 500 USA Largest pure-fission weapon ever tested
1953-08-12 Joe 4 400 USSR First fusion weapon test by the USSR (not "staged")
1954-03-01 Castle Bravo 15,000 USA First dry fusion fuel "staged" thermonuclear weapon; a serious nuclear fallout accident occurred
1955-11-22 RDS-37 1,600 USSR First "staged" thermonuclear weapon test by the USSR (deployable)
1957-11-08 Grapple X 1,800 UK First (successful) "staged" thermonuclear weapon test by the UK
1957-05-31 Orange Herald 720 UK Largest boosted fission weapon ever tested. Intended as a fallback "in megaton range" in case British thermonuclear development failed.
1960-02-13 Gerboise Bleue 70 France First fission weapon test by France
1961-10-31 Tsar Bomba 57,000 USSR Largest thermonuclear weapon ever tested—scaled down from its initial 100 Mt design by 50%
1964-10-16 596 22 PR China First fission weapon test by the People's Republic of China
1967-06-17 Test No. 6 3,300 PR China First "staged" thermonuclear weapon test by the People's Republic of China
1968-08-24 Canopus 2,600 France First "staged" thermonuclear weapon test by France
1974-05-18 Smiling Buddha 12 India First fission nuclear explosive test by India
1998-05-11 Pokhran-II 60[22] India First potential fusion/boosted weapon test by India; first deployable fission weapon test by India
1998-05-28 Chagai-I 40[23] Pakistan First fission weapon (boosted) test by Pakistan
1998-05-30 Chagai-II 20[23] Pakistan Second fission weapon (boosted) test by Pakistan
2006-10-09 2006 North Korean nuclear test ~1 North Korea First fission plutonium-based device tested by North Korea; likely resulted as a fizzle
2009-05-25 2009 North Korean nuclear test 2-6 North Korea First successful fission device tested by North Korea

2. China can easily shoot down any your missiles.
The People's Republic of China carried out a land-based high-altitude anti-ballistic missile test on 11 January 2010.This reportedly made China the second country[dubious – discuss] in the world after the United States of America to successfully destroy an incoming missile beyond the Earth's atmosphere.

2010 Chinese anti-ballistic missile test - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The latest one : [video]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eFff2-gZ0sM[/video]

2. A 1 KT warhead is only enough for you to commit suicide.
Spouse you have some and used, then you will face mega ton warheads fight back.
You can find out how much a 1k TNT can do and a 1M TNT can do to a city.
Even " little boy" and "fat man " are 10-20 time power than it.


3. China's First weapon sized nuclear bomb yields 330k at 1967 by a H-6 bomber.
Test No. 6 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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Was thinking about Second Strike capability today with operational missiles...

3500km Agni III

PN does not have the capacity to launch offensive in Andaman, especially with INS Baaz.

But all of Pakistan and most of inhabited China is within 3500km of Andaman.
 

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1. Look this table and convince us that India have any thing that can yield 340 KT.
Nuclear weapons testing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you do not have a single success thermo nuclear test how can you have. Mega ton level warhead?


Date Name Yield (kT) Country Significance
1945-07-16 Trinity 18–20 USA First fission device test, first plutonium implosion detonation
1945-08-06 Little Boy 12–18 USA Bombing of Hiroshima, Japan, first detonation of an enriched uranium gun-type device, first use of a nuclear device in military combat.
1945-08-09 Fat Man 18–23 USA Bombing of Nagasaki, Japan, second and last use of a nuclear device in military combat.
1949-08-29 RDS-1 22 USSR First fission weapon test by the USSR
1952-10-03 Hurricane 25 UK First fission weapon test by the UK
1952-11-01 Ivy Mike 10,400 USA First cryogenic fusion fuel "staged" thermonuclear weapon, primarily a test device and not weaponized
1952-11-16 Ivy King 500 USA Largest pure-fission weapon ever tested
1953-08-12 Joe 4 400 USSR First fusion weapon test by the USSR (not "staged")
1954-03-01 Castle Bravo 15,000 USA First dry fusion fuel "staged" thermonuclear weapon; a serious nuclear fallout accident occurred
1955-11-22 RDS-37 1,600 USSR First "staged" thermonuclear weapon test by the USSR (deployable)
1957-11-08 Grapple X 1,800 UK First (successful) "staged" thermonuclear weapon test by the UK
1957-05-31 Orange Herald 720 UK Largest boosted fission weapon ever tested. Intended as a fallback "in megaton range" in case British thermonuclear development failed.
1960-02-13 Gerboise Bleue 70 France First fission weapon test by France
1961-10-31 Tsar Bomba 57,000 USSR Largest thermonuclear weapon ever tested—scaled down from its initial 100 Mt design by 50%
1964-10-16 596 22 PR China First fission weapon test by the People's Republic of China
1967-06-17 Test No. 6 3,300 PR China First "staged" thermonuclear weapon test by the People's Republic of China
1968-08-24 Canopus 2,600 France First "staged" thermonuclear weapon test by France
1974-05-18 Smiling Buddha 12 India First fission nuclear explosive test by India
1998-05-11 Pokhran-II 60[22] India First potential fusion/boosted weapon test by India; first deployable fission weapon test by India
1998-05-28 Chagai-I 40[23] Pakistan First fission weapon (boosted) test by Pakistan
1998-05-30 Chagai-II 20[23] Pakistan Second fission weapon (boosted) test by Pakistan
2006-10-09 2006 North Korean nuclear test ~1 North Korea First fission plutonium-based device tested by North Korea; likely resulted as a fizzle
2009-05-25 2009 North Korean nuclear test 2-6 North Korea First successful fission device tested by North Korea

2. China can easily shoot down any your missiles.
The People's Republic of China carried out a land-based high-altitude anti-ballistic missile test on 11 January 2010.This reportedly made China the second country[dubious – discuss] in the world after the United States of America to successfully destroy an incoming missile beyond the Earth's atmosphere.

2010 Chinese anti-ballistic missile test - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The latest one : [video]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eFff2-gZ0sM[/video]

2. A 1 KT warhead is only enough for you to commit suicide.
Spouse you have some and used, then you will face mega ton warheads fight back.
You can find out how much a 1k TNT can do and a 1M TNT can do to a city.
Even " little boy" and "fat man " are 10-20 time power than it.


3. China's First weapon sized nuclear bomb yields 330k at 1967 by a H-6 bomber.
Test No. 6 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
@<a href="http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/member.php?u=12904" target="_blank">CCTV</a> good that you`ve taken the effort of reading the links and trying to understand my points. commendable indeed !

1. however, you conviently opted out of mentioning the below para from my earlier wiki link
"For a more complete list of nuclear test series, see List of nuclear tests. Some exact yield estimates, such as that of the Tsar Bomba and the tests by India and Pakistan in 1998, are somewhat contested among specialists.
Precise yields have been in dispute, especially when they are tied to questions of politics"

2.read the below line and answer this question : when faced with the possiblity of a nuclear strike by india, will chinese military planners assume best-case, or worst-case estimates ? there are no "happy-day" scenarios when discussing nukes, my dear chinese comrade :p
First potential fusion/boosted weapon test by India; first deployable fission weapon test by India
its not a big stretch to have a boosted weapon design which reaches 330KT.
More importantlly as per the calculations in my earlier posts involving W62+Mark12 design, the yield will be 340KT & not 1KT. Stop being in denial about this.

3. As for the ASAT and BDM tech, kudos to China for coming up with a Tech Demonstrator - but we all know its FAR EASIER for missiles to pentrate this shield and BMD as a technology is not foolproof yet.China at any rate does not have an early stage interceptor, and at best, has a mid-stage interception. If i had to wager my money, it`ll be on the BDM and not the missile -same holds true for India`s BDM as well. Note that A5 is planned to have MIRV`ing capabilities in the near futu
 
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@<a href="http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/members/cctv.html" target="_blank">CCTV</a> good that you`ve taken the effort of reading the links and trying to understand my points. commendable indeed !

1. however, you conviently opted out of mentioning the below para from my earlier wiki link
"For a more complete list of nuclear test series, see List of nuclear tests. Some exact yield estimates, such as that of the Tsar Bomba and the tests by India and Pakistan in 1998, are somewhat contested among specialists.
Precise yields have been in dispute, especially when they are tied to questions of politics"

2.read the below line and answer this question : when faced with the possiblity of a nuclear strike by india, will chinese military planners assume best-case, or worst-case estimates ? there are no "happy-day" scenarios when discussing nukes, my dear chinese comrade :p
First potential fusion/boosted weapon test by India; first deployable fission weapon test by India
its not a big stretch to have a boosted weapon design which reaches 330KT.
More importantlly as per the calculations in my earlier posts involving W62+Mark12 design, the yield will be 340KT & not 1KT. Stop being in denial about this.

3. As for the ASAT and BDM tech, kudos to China for coming up with a Tech Demonstrator - but we all know its FAR EASIER for missiles to pentrate this shield and BMD as a technology is not foolproof yet.China at any rate does not have an early stage interceptor, and at best, has a mid-stage interception. If i had to wager my money, it`ll be on the BDM and not the missile -same holds true for India`s BDM as well. Note that A5 is planned to have MIRV`ing capabilities in the near futu
1. Yes , India claim lager yield , the outside world claim smaller yield . But the difference will not be 100 times.
2. When did you test mega ton level nuclear bomb? In you dream? We tested our mega ton bomb, and ready to deliver. How about India's ? You will test, when me nuke you?
3. Yes we test our mid- stage tiwce and all sucessed. We tested ours after US, where is India's tests.
 

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@<a href="http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/members/cctv.html" target="_blank">CCTV</a> good that you`ve taken the effort of reading the links and trying to understand my points. commendable indeed !

1. however, you conviently opted out of mentioning the below para from my earlier wiki link
"For a more complete list of nuclear test series, see List of nuclear tests. Some exact yield estimates, such as that of the Tsar Bomba and the tests by India and Pakistan in 1998, are somewhat contested among specialists.
Precise yields have been in dispute, especially when they are tied to questions of politics"

2.read the below line and answer this question : when faced with the possiblity of a nuclear strike by india, will chinese military planners assume best-case, or worst-case estimates ? there are no "happy-day" scenarios when discussing nukes, my dear chinese comrade :p
First potential fusion/boosted weapon test by India; first deployable fission weapon test by India
its not a big stretch to have a boosted weapon design which reaches 330KT.
More importantlly as per the calculations in my earlier posts involving W62+Mark12 design, the yield will be 340KT & not 1KT. Stop being in denial about this.

3. As for the ASAT and BDM tech, kudos to China for coming up with a Tech Demonstrator - but we all know its FAR EASIER for missiles to pentrate this shield and BMD as a technology is not foolproof yet.China at any rate does not have an early stage interceptor, and at best, has a mid-stage interception. If i had to wager my money, it`ll be on the BDM and not the missile -same holds true for India`s BDM as well. Note that A5 is planned to have MIRV`ing capabilities in the near futu
1. Yes , India claim lager yield , the outside world claim smaller yield . But the difference will not be 100 times.
2. When did you test mega ton level nuclear bomb? In you dream? We tested our mega ton bomb, and ready to deliver. How about India's ? You will test, when me nuke you?
3. Yes we test our mid- stage tiwce and all sucessed. We tested ours after US, where is India's tests.
 

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1. Yes , India claim lager yield , the outside world claim smaller yield . But the difference will not be 100 times.
2. When did you test mega ton level nuclear bomb? In you dream? We tested our mega ton bomb, and ready to deliver. How about India's ? You will test, when me nuke you?
3. Yes we test our mid- stage tiwce and all sucessed. We tested ours after US, where is India's tests.
1. We had the sensors, the outside world had guesses.
2. Ever heard of "scaling" and "simulators"?
3. Read about existing AAD+PDV and upcoming AD1+AD2
 

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1. We had the sensors, the outside world had guesses.
2. Ever heard of "scaling" and "simulators"?
3. Read about existing AAD+PDV and upcoming AD1+AD2
Nothing substitutes a real test. I can tell you from personal experience, that the best test of theory is in its application. @CCTV has a valid point. We need to do more real tests.
 
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Nothing substitutes a real test. I can tell you from personal experience, that the best test of theory is in its application. @CCTV has a valid point. We need to do more real tests.
Just to be clear, your refer to tests of nuclear weapons when you mention CCTV's post. What are the present constraints on such tests for India?

Nuclear Weapon Testing
 
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Yeah, but we will not be doing any more tests.

Self imposed moratorium even without signing CTBT. This along with impeccable NP record even without signing NPT is what let to Indo-US civil nuclear deal.

So "scaling" and "simulators" are the next best thing.

Only way we will do further tests is when and after China proliferates megaton class nukes to Pak and Pak "tests" them.

Nothing substitutes a real test. I can tell you from personal experience, that the best test of theory is in its application. @CCTV has a valid point. We need to do more real tests.
 
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Just to be clear, your refer to tests of nuclear weapons when you mention CCTV's post. What are the present constraints on such tests for India?

Nuclear Weapon Testing
The present constraint is the Indo-US Nuclear Deal. India cannot throw it away, because, after all, it was Bush who fought against all odds to get it through. India needs energy, and for that, it has free access of nuclear fuel for the power rectors. More tests of miniaturized warheads will make us safer, but will hurt India's economy more, because that would stop all nuclear fuel supply, along with the technology for reactors.
 

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Just to be clear, your refer to tests of nuclear weapons when you mention CCTV's post. What are the present constraints on such tests for India?

Nuclear Weapon Testing
[pdf]http://mercury.ethz.ch/serviceengine/Files/ISN/47241/ichaptersection_singledocument/62024369-36df-4ccc-8d12-3b25cfaa4040/en/5_MAintaining%2Bthe%2Bmoratorium.pdf[/pdf]
 

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1. Yes , India claim lager yield , the outside world claim smaller yield . But the difference will not be 100 times.
2. When did you test mega ton level nuclear bomb? In you dream? We tested our mega ton bomb, and ready to deliver. How about India's ? You will test, when me nuke you?
3. Yes we test our mid- stage tiwce and all sucessed. We tested ours after US, where is India's tests.
you want us to test it on China to prove that our nuke work ?
 

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Without nuclear warhead A 12345....are just jokes.
Without a success thermonuclear test, you will not able to confirm you have the correct answer of your thermonuclear structure.
Without lots of success test, you can not minimize your thermonuclear structure and put it on a missile.
 

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Without nuclear warhead A 12345....are just jokes.
Without a success thermonuclear test, you will not able to confirm you have the correct answer of your thermonuclear structure.
Without lots of success test, you can not minimize your thermonuclear structure and put it on a missile.
We are happy with current thermo nuke, it is sufficiently packaged to fit into A1 RV. If you checked 1998 test pics you will know the size of thermo nuke.
 

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