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The only areas where DRDO has not been criticised is in Space and Nuclear Energy.
Elsewhere, they deserve being kicked in the pants, fo rif they can do the difficult part, what stops them from areas which are not rocket science?
Elsewhere, they deserve being kicked in the pants, fo rif they can do the difficult part, what stops them from areas which are not rocket science?
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The Americans will fire one on them from Area-51........What happens of Puki tests an ICBM that can target Europe and parts of USA?
Will it get an reaction as that of DPRK or would we see a silence from the west?
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'US appreciates India closing missile gap with China'
'US appreciates India closing missile gap with China' - The Times of India
'US appreciates India closing missile gap with China' - The Times of India
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Welcome to Tapatalk. now you have no excuse to not post more. I didnt reach 15,500 posts just like that!
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The thing is missile, nuclear and space technologies have been in development since very very very long as compared to other areas like aerospace and tanks. Give it another 10-20 years for these areas and there will some parity with the rest of the world. If not world class, at least they will provide usable products by then.
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US Supports India Closing Missile Gap With China
A clear lack of US condemnation of India's latest missile test demonstrates that Washington not only appreciates but also supports India's ability to meet the emerging strategic challenge posed by an aggressive China. A clear lack of US condemnation of India's latest missile test demonstrates that Washington not only appreciates but also supports India's ability to meet the emerging strategic challenge posed by an aggressive China.
The United States is more comfortable with the Indian progress in the nuclear and missile fields than China. China's missile and nuclear programme is based on threatening the United States and India's missile programme on the other hand is based on preventing China to achieve status quo in Asia as a sole super power.
India's successful test of the Agni-V, a nuclear-capable long-range missile, is a major step forward for New Delhi in attaining nuclear deterrence against regional rival China and no country in the world has criticised India's ballistic ICBM test.
The US State Department on the other hand called on all nuclear-capable states to exercise restraint and underlined India's impeccable record on non-proliferation and it's cooperation with the international community on nuclear issues. The trust and relationship between India and the United States has matured to an altogether different level which in the coming decades will be the envy of the world.
Washington's position on India's ballistic missile development throughout the 1990's was quite different, when Washington had pressured New Delhi to modify it's nuclear and missile posture and on the other hand the new US stance demonstrates a welcome evolution in US non-proliferation policy. This has ushered in an era of Indo-US strategic partnership on various levels.
The US change in position with regard to Indian missile capabilities demonstrates how far the US-India relationship has evolved over the last one decade.
The US views India as the strongest strategic partner with an ever growing economic and political clout that will contribute to promoting security and stability in Asia and the rest of the world.
A clear lack of US condemnation of India's latest missile test demonstrates that Washington not only appreciates but also supports India's ability to meet the emerging strategic challenge posed by an aggressive China. A clear lack of US condemnation of India's latest missile test demonstrates that Washington not only appreciates but also supports India's ability to meet the emerging strategic challenge posed by an aggressive China.
The United States is more comfortable with the Indian progress in the nuclear and missile fields than China. China's missile and nuclear programme is based on threatening the United States and India's missile programme on the other hand is based on preventing China to achieve status quo in Asia as a sole super power.
India's successful test of the Agni-V, a nuclear-capable long-range missile, is a major step forward for New Delhi in attaining nuclear deterrence against regional rival China and no country in the world has criticised India's ballistic ICBM test.
The US State Department on the other hand called on all nuclear-capable states to exercise restraint and underlined India's impeccable record on non-proliferation and it's cooperation with the international community on nuclear issues. The trust and relationship between India and the United States has matured to an altogether different level which in the coming decades will be the envy of the world.
Washington's position on India's ballistic missile development throughout the 1990's was quite different, when Washington had pressured New Delhi to modify it's nuclear and missile posture and on the other hand the new US stance demonstrates a welcome evolution in US non-proliferation policy. This has ushered in an era of Indo-US strategic partnership on various levels.
The US change in position with regard to Indian missile capabilities demonstrates how far the US-India relationship has evolved over the last one decade.
The US views India as the strongest strategic partner with an ever growing economic and political clout that will contribute to promoting security and stability in Asia and the rest of the world.
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" Washington's position on India's ballistic missile development throughout the 1990's was quite different, when Washington had pressured New Delhi to modify it's nuclear and missile posture and on the other hand the new US stance demonstrates a welcome evolution in US non-proliferation policy. This has ushered in an era of Indo-US strategic partnership on various levels."
On one hand this is extremely benificial to us, but on another hand we should not become a party to whatever US says and asks us to do. I am quiet confident of a Mature Indian foreign policy and our rise to world politics.
This should also give us leverage in dealing with chinese as they respect strength rather meek spineless attitudes in govts, they have even voiced their apprehension that India follows independent foreign policy and not pressurised by US, to keep us away from coming under us sway.
The PLAY is begining for India, lets see how our leaders perform.... If they do well, we are on our way to superpower dream, if not a mediocre country. Time will tell.
On one hand this is extremely benificial to us, but on another hand we should not become a party to whatever US says and asks us to do. I am quiet confident of a Mature Indian foreign policy and our rise to world politics.
This should also give us leverage in dealing with chinese as they respect strength rather meek spineless attitudes in govts, they have even voiced their apprehension that India follows independent foreign policy and not pressurised by US, to keep us away from coming under us sway.
The PLAY is begining for India, lets see how our leaders perform.... If they do well, we are on our way to superpower dream, if not a mediocre country. Time will tell.
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true, we should develop weapons for self-defence and deterence, and not get involved in power-play politics of foreigners
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Agreed not to get involved in power-play,
But should definitely now engage chinese in confident manner for economic developments and sway in other regions, power and economics go hand in hand, we should not use power to marginalize anybody like china or any other country, rather use to deter anybody from stopping us to progress economically.
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About missile Agni 5 its Fully made in India ! Nobody Realize when APJ Kalam nade First Indian Missile.
Its harder to take first step then after its easy to go
Its harder to take first step then after its easy to go
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Agni V: Fired by domestic industry
SOURCE : THE HINDU
The flight of Agni V brings to the fore the strength of domestic industry and the industrial base that can be created in the Defence sector.About 450 people, right from the top missile scientist to the contract worker, sweated it out 24×7 for nearly a fortnight on the Wheeler Island, off the coast of Odisha. The dedication and team work culminated in the success of Agni V, India's longest range ballistic missile, on April 19.
While the blast-off and flawless flight of Agni V was the visible face of the success story, the bigger story on the ground that is unfolding is the strength of the domestic industry and the huge industrial base that can be created in the Defence sector, especially aerospace. In the missile project itself, at least 50-60 industries, both large and small, have participated.
The total process control, linear accelerators, entire vacuum chamber, composite casings, rocket motors, filament winding machines, carbon-reinforced fibres, gyros, GPS systems, low alloy steel, servo valves, autoclaves, solid propellants and a long list, accounting for nearly 80 per cent of the missiles, are today made by Indian industry, in close collaboration with the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).
The very fact that India has demonstrated the capability to develop Agni V in the face of technology denial regimes, clearly shows how Indian scientists and industry have converted each denial as a challenge and opportunity to develop indigenous capability, said Mr Avinash Chander, Chief Controller (missiles and strategic systems), Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).
SUPPLIER TO PRODUCER
The Agni missile is a complex system. Hundreds of people across scores of industries in both the public and private (mostly small and medium enterprises) were instrumental in fabrication, from minute components to large systems. Most of the work is still manual in the industry. Hence, the functioning of all these to the most demanding environment in space, has given us the confidence that we have attained a standard of quality and ruggedness, he explained.
At the industry level, there is a need for improvement in the quality and standardisation of products.
Since flight environment cannot be simulated on the ground, it is imperative that the best possible quality checks and standards are maintained. Globally, 75 per cent of failures are due to critical connectors. The next is single shot systems (rocket motors, missile separator systems) and only 5 per cent due to design.
The road ahead for the Indian industry is to transform itself from a mere supplier of components and systems to a production partner. As per rough estimates, around 300-400 industries of different sizes have been involved with the DRDO in various projects ranging from tanks to aircraft, and from food to security systems for the Defence forces.
The DRDO has received a budget of Rs 10,600 crore for 2012-13, which is around 5.6 per cent of the total defence budget, to fund its research and development programmes.
Though, missiles such as Agni-V, per se, will not be mass-produced, the technological capabilities and fabrication infrastructure could stand industry in good stead to take on several projects, not just for the Defence sector, but the civilian market as well.
India has a huge Defence budget of Rs 1.7 lakh crore and the production and purchase by the Defence forces is huge and varied. In the case of Prithvi (range of 350 km), about 100 will be produced, whereas for the Akash (surface-to-air missile), the Bharat Dynamics Limited (BDL) has bagged a Rs 5,000-crore order
THE INITIATIVES
The Defence Ministry has been initiating several policy measures to attract the industry. The Defence industrial production policy, the 26 per cent FDI and the offset clauses, it feels, can give the much-needed push to the domestic industry to take up a greater role.
Two important moves from the industry aiming to capitalise on the emerging opportunities have begun showing results. The first is the joint venture route and the second is the public-private partnerships. Leading corporates such as the Tatas have struck JVs with Israeli companies. Mahindras, Hindujas, L&T, HAL, to name a few, are exploring possibilities. On the partnership mode, the BrahMos supersonic missile produced by the Indo-Russian JV, BrahMos Aerospace, is proving to be quite successful. Similar initiatives with France, US and Israel are in the pipeline.
The DRDO, on its part, is proposing a couple of moves. First is to create alternative assembly or production lines in the private sector for identified products. In every project, it plans to clearly identify the industry partner upfront. For example, in the missiles area, companies such as BEL, BEML, L&T, Tatas, SEC, Mahindras, Premier Explosives, Walchandnagar can be involved. Among the smaller companies RAP, Apollo Computing, Accord systems and Software, VEM Technology, Analogics to name a few, are active.
FABRICATING SUCCESS
The second is to create a special fund. The objective is to provide financial help to the SMEs to indigenously develop components and sub-systems on demand and create production facilities.
The Departments of Space and Atomic Energy have tried this route with success. The strategic sectors have funded the Hyderabad-based, Midhani, which makes special materials to upgrade its facilities in the last few years with considerable advantages to their ongoing programmes.
The DRDO is also collaborating with the CII to create a database for the SMEs. The inputs would also be useful in tapping the advantages of the Defence offsets, which make it mandatory for global companies to source a minimum of 30 per cent of the contract value they have bagged from domestic sources in India.
The organisation, with a string of 50 national laboratories, has also tried the Government-Owned-
Company-Operated model with limited success. Here, the DRDO provided the technology and some funding for a private sector company to develop a specific product that has been denied due to export control regimes. Further, the agreement was for a total buyback as it did not have much of a civilian market or application.
A good example has been the development of Servo Valves. The Research Centre Imarat (RCI), Hyderabad, passed on the technology to a private enterprise and provided funds. The company fabricated it and delivered it back to the DRDO. The product has been tested with success. In addition to aerospace, the valves are used in machine tools, furnaces, power plants etc.
Another case is the fibre optic gyros. Fibre optic gyros offer more than a Rs 1,000 crore opportunity for the industry. Already, a dozen Indian industries have approached the DRDO for technology know-how.
However, there is a limitation to this model, as the scope for mass production is limited and the private company will not find incentive to create infrastructure or dedicate manpower. The time is, perhaps, ripe for innovation and new ventures that can spur the domestic industry to seize the opportunities ahead.
Agni V: Fired by domestic industry | idrw.org
SOURCE : THE HINDU
The flight of Agni V brings to the fore the strength of domestic industry and the industrial base that can be created in the Defence sector.About 450 people, right from the top missile scientist to the contract worker, sweated it out 24×7 for nearly a fortnight on the Wheeler Island, off the coast of Odisha. The dedication and team work culminated in the success of Agni V, India's longest range ballistic missile, on April 19.
While the blast-off and flawless flight of Agni V was the visible face of the success story, the bigger story on the ground that is unfolding is the strength of the domestic industry and the huge industrial base that can be created in the Defence sector, especially aerospace. In the missile project itself, at least 50-60 industries, both large and small, have participated.
The total process control, linear accelerators, entire vacuum chamber, composite casings, rocket motors, filament winding machines, carbon-reinforced fibres, gyros, GPS systems, low alloy steel, servo valves, autoclaves, solid propellants and a long list, accounting for nearly 80 per cent of the missiles, are today made by Indian industry, in close collaboration with the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).
The very fact that India has demonstrated the capability to develop Agni V in the face of technology denial regimes, clearly shows how Indian scientists and industry have converted each denial as a challenge and opportunity to develop indigenous capability, said Mr Avinash Chander, Chief Controller (missiles and strategic systems), Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).
SUPPLIER TO PRODUCER
The Agni missile is a complex system. Hundreds of people across scores of industries in both the public and private (mostly small and medium enterprises) were instrumental in fabrication, from minute components to large systems. Most of the work is still manual in the industry. Hence, the functioning of all these to the most demanding environment in space, has given us the confidence that we have attained a standard of quality and ruggedness, he explained.
At the industry level, there is a need for improvement in the quality and standardisation of products.
Since flight environment cannot be simulated on the ground, it is imperative that the best possible quality checks and standards are maintained. Globally, 75 per cent of failures are due to critical connectors. The next is single shot systems (rocket motors, missile separator systems) and only 5 per cent due to design.
The road ahead for the Indian industry is to transform itself from a mere supplier of components and systems to a production partner. As per rough estimates, around 300-400 industries of different sizes have been involved with the DRDO in various projects ranging from tanks to aircraft, and from food to security systems for the Defence forces.
The DRDO has received a budget of Rs 10,600 crore for 2012-13, which is around 5.6 per cent of the total defence budget, to fund its research and development programmes.
Though, missiles such as Agni-V, per se, will not be mass-produced, the technological capabilities and fabrication infrastructure could stand industry in good stead to take on several projects, not just for the Defence sector, but the civilian market as well.
India has a huge Defence budget of Rs 1.7 lakh crore and the production and purchase by the Defence forces is huge and varied. In the case of Prithvi (range of 350 km), about 100 will be produced, whereas for the Akash (surface-to-air missile), the Bharat Dynamics Limited (BDL) has bagged a Rs 5,000-crore order
THE INITIATIVES
The Defence Ministry has been initiating several policy measures to attract the industry. The Defence industrial production policy, the 26 per cent FDI and the offset clauses, it feels, can give the much-needed push to the domestic industry to take up a greater role.
Two important moves from the industry aiming to capitalise on the emerging opportunities have begun showing results. The first is the joint venture route and the second is the public-private partnerships. Leading corporates such as the Tatas have struck JVs with Israeli companies. Mahindras, Hindujas, L&T, HAL, to name a few, are exploring possibilities. On the partnership mode, the BrahMos supersonic missile produced by the Indo-Russian JV, BrahMos Aerospace, is proving to be quite successful. Similar initiatives with France, US and Israel are in the pipeline.
The DRDO, on its part, is proposing a couple of moves. First is to create alternative assembly or production lines in the private sector for identified products. In every project, it plans to clearly identify the industry partner upfront. For example, in the missiles area, companies such as BEL, BEML, L&T, Tatas, SEC, Mahindras, Premier Explosives, Walchandnagar can be involved. Among the smaller companies RAP, Apollo Computing, Accord systems and Software, VEM Technology, Analogics to name a few, are active.
FABRICATING SUCCESS
The second is to create a special fund. The objective is to provide financial help to the SMEs to indigenously develop components and sub-systems on demand and create production facilities.
The Departments of Space and Atomic Energy have tried this route with success. The strategic sectors have funded the Hyderabad-based, Midhani, which makes special materials to upgrade its facilities in the last few years with considerable advantages to their ongoing programmes.
The DRDO is also collaborating with the CII to create a database for the SMEs. The inputs would also be useful in tapping the advantages of the Defence offsets, which make it mandatory for global companies to source a minimum of 30 per cent of the contract value they have bagged from domestic sources in India.
The organisation, with a string of 50 national laboratories, has also tried the Government-Owned-
Company-Operated model with limited success. Here, the DRDO provided the technology and some funding for a private sector company to develop a specific product that has been denied due to export control regimes. Further, the agreement was for a total buyback as it did not have much of a civilian market or application.
A good example has been the development of Servo Valves. The Research Centre Imarat (RCI), Hyderabad, passed on the technology to a private enterprise and provided funds. The company fabricated it and delivered it back to the DRDO. The product has been tested with success. In addition to aerospace, the valves are used in machine tools, furnaces, power plants etc.
Another case is the fibre optic gyros. Fibre optic gyros offer more than a Rs 1,000 crore opportunity for the industry. Already, a dozen Indian industries have approached the DRDO for technology know-how.
However, there is a limitation to this model, as the scope for mass production is limited and the private company will not find incentive to create infrastructure or dedicate manpower. The time is, perhaps, ripe for innovation and new ventures that can spur the domestic industry to seize the opportunities ahead.
Agni V: Fired by domestic industry | idrw.org
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Agni-V trials in final configuration to begin early next year
The first of the six flight trials of India' longest range ballistic missile, Agni-V, in its final quick-reaction configuration, providing a canister-launch capability, will be held in early 2013.
While in Thursday's successful maiden flight, the three-stage missile blasted off from a rail mobile launcher at Wheeler Island, the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has already made a lot of progress to meet the Army's requirement to provide a canister-based launch from a road mobile vehicle.
With the mission validating the design of Agni-V, the next step is to provide the canister-launch capability, Avinash Chander Chief Controller, R&D, (Missiles and Strategic Systems), DRDO, told The Hindu. Pointing out that canister-launch capability was already demonstrated for 700 km range Shourya missile and BrahMos cruise missile, he said "those technologies will get up-scaled."
"With canister, you can virtually stop and launch." Operational flexibility would increase multi-fold, reducing the reaction time, he added.
Missile ejection tests
Mr. Chander said the DRDO had set up a facility for "missile ejection tests" at Shamirpet near Hyderabad, for carrying out a canister-launch simulation by placing a dummy missile. The first road mobile launcher being produced by the private industry would be ready next month and the missile ejections tests would begin from June.
With the Agni-V missile scheduled to be inducted into the Army in the next few years, he said, six flight tests, including three pre-induction trials, would be conducted.
Workhorse
V.G. Sekaran, Director, Advanced Systems Laboratory (ASL), which designed and developed the missile, said Agni-V would be the workhorse in the years to come.
Referring to the successful launch, he said this was the first time that the maiden flight took place within three years of starting the design for any missile of the DRDO.
The ASL had developed the solid propulsion system, including the composite rocket motor casings for the second and third stages and the carbon-carbon composite heat shields for the missile's re-entry vehicle.
Stating that the DRDO would develop "intelligent" and "manoeuvring" warheads for futuristic missiles, Mr. Chander said: "You have to upgrade weapons. We can't afford to relax."
The intelligent warheads would be capable of assessing the risk while in flight and take evasive counter-measures.:thumb:
Agni-V trials in final configuration to begin early next year | idrw.org
The first of the six flight trials of India' longest range ballistic missile, Agni-V, in its final quick-reaction configuration, providing a canister-launch capability, will be held in early 2013.
While in Thursday's successful maiden flight, the three-stage missile blasted off from a rail mobile launcher at Wheeler Island, the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has already made a lot of progress to meet the Army's requirement to provide a canister-based launch from a road mobile vehicle.
With the mission validating the design of Agni-V, the next step is to provide the canister-launch capability, Avinash Chander Chief Controller, R&D, (Missiles and Strategic Systems), DRDO, told The Hindu. Pointing out that canister-launch capability was already demonstrated for 700 km range Shourya missile and BrahMos cruise missile, he said "those technologies will get up-scaled."
"With canister, you can virtually stop and launch." Operational flexibility would increase multi-fold, reducing the reaction time, he added.
Missile ejection tests
Mr. Chander said the DRDO had set up a facility for "missile ejection tests" at Shamirpet near Hyderabad, for carrying out a canister-launch simulation by placing a dummy missile. The first road mobile launcher being produced by the private industry would be ready next month and the missile ejections tests would begin from June.
With the Agni-V missile scheduled to be inducted into the Army in the next few years, he said, six flight tests, including three pre-induction trials, would be conducted.
Workhorse
V.G. Sekaran, Director, Advanced Systems Laboratory (ASL), which designed and developed the missile, said Agni-V would be the workhorse in the years to come.
Referring to the successful launch, he said this was the first time that the maiden flight took place within three years of starting the design for any missile of the DRDO.
The ASL had developed the solid propulsion system, including the composite rocket motor casings for the second and third stages and the carbon-carbon composite heat shields for the missile's re-entry vehicle.
Stating that the DRDO would develop "intelligent" and "manoeuvring" warheads for futuristic missiles, Mr. Chander said: "You have to upgrade weapons. We can't afford to relax."
The intelligent warheads would be capable of assessing the risk while in flight and take evasive counter-measures.:thumb:
Agni-V trials in final configuration to begin early next year | idrw.org
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Great news we may develop similiar warheads like Russian IGLA warhead which is capable of doing ZIG ZAG manuveur to evade enemy ABM systems:thumb:
Surely the chin pandas would have a hard time to intercept it at terminal stage ,best chance is to interecept it at boost phase or mid phase
Surely the chin pandas would have a hard time to intercept it at terminal stage
,best chance is to interecept it at boost phase or mid phase
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A5 was a failure。
One of the most important aspects of the test was to find out the warhead's ablation resistance，but
The fireball created by the explosion of the dummy payload was recorded by cameras onboard the ships.
The Hindu : News / National : In Wheeler Island, a perfect mission sparks celebrations
One of the most important aspects of the test was to find out the warhead's ablation resistance，but
The fireball created by the explosion of the dummy payload was recorded by cameras onboard the ships.
The Hindu : News / National : In Wheeler Island, a perfect mission sparks celebrations
