If we arm afghanistan to the teeth then good things would come out of it.I thought a gutsy Afghan slapped Parvez Mian.
Depending on who is on power dude. Let afghanistan settle down as a nation democratically . Let it prosper. That alone will ensure that pakistan cant do jack shit there. Then we dont even have to arm them to teeth. They will do a good job of doing that themselvesIf we arm afghanistan to the teeth then good things would come out of it.
This roses and democracy shit doesn't work. Pakis are arming taliban and sending them across there border to afghanistan like they do in kashmir. Afghans need weapons to fight.Depending on who is on power dude. Let afghanistan settle down as a nation democratically . Let it prosper. That alone will ensure that pakistan cant do jack shit there. Then we dont even have to arm them to teeth. They will do a good job of doing that themselves
What I meant is the stabilisation of Afghanistan. But for that, we have to even use our own Army if needed. And train them for that. I wont have problems with even giving them the Migs and other old gen aircrafts for training and for defence. But that said, only way to ensure Afghan stays in our pocket is the Stabilisation of the Afghan economy and Politics.This roses and democracy shit doesn't work. Pakis are arming taliban and sending them across there border to afghanistan like they do in kashmir. Afghans need weapons to fight.
Do you know in early 90's afghans were actually defeating taliban and then pakis sent there own soldiers (without uniforms) to defeat afghanis. They even used there air force to win battles that they would have lost otherwise and afghans had no anti-aircraft weapons apart from rudementary ones.
I had suggested earilier on DFI itself that we give them migs.What I meant is the stabilisation of Afghanistan. But for that, we have to even use our own Army if needed. And train them for that. I wont have problems with even giving them the Migs and other old gen aircrafts for training and for defence. But that said, only way to ensure Afghan stays in our pocket is the Stabilisation of the Afghan economy and Politics.
You do know what will happen if that fails right?
I will leave that to the Americans till 2014 and even afterwords. (they are gonna stay there even after 2014).I had suggested earilier on DFI itself that we give them migs.
How will you get stability unless taliban is not eliminated ? tourism in kashmir only started once our army foiled majority of infiltrations and killed most of the terrorists or would tourism have re-started in kashmir while terrorists were gun totting around spraying bullets ? taliban and paki elements must be eliminated and due to that afghanistan will automatically start growing economically.
I agree 100%. Iran is no where near the psychosis of Saudi and Pakis. Having a pro- Saudi/Paki Iran is not in our interest in any wayFor India to have a decent economic relationship with afghanistan we need iran so we need to tell that hysteric woman clinton to piss off because pakis sure as hell wont allow us direct access to afghanistan.
This exactly what USA will do they are a NATO ally now.If we arm afghanistan to the teeth then good things would come out of it.
and they , pak are paying the price for that temporary "success" - they economic ruinous condition today is in major part due to the cost of sending their own troops to do what should have been done by proxy ! - so back to "mad indian" 's idea of letting the afghanis do it with some weaponry assistance from india or indeed other friendly countriesDo you know in early 90's afghans were actually defeating taliban and then pakis sent there own soldiers (without uniforms) to defeat afghanis. They even used there air force to win battles that they would have lost otherwise and afghans had no anti-aircraft weapons apart from rudementary ones.
If I am not mistaken India has a good reputation even in Pashtoon dominated areas, at least the international opinion polls conducted in Afghanistan's Pashtoon dominated areas suggest so. Even the Indian investments being made in Afghanistan have spread out to Pashutoon areas and the response remains pretty good.I understand that it is ethnicity and race that groups people in Afghanistan? is this true - Tajiks and non-Pashtun people supports India while Pashtuns have their allegiance with their Pashtun brothers across the border in Pakistan controlled Pashtunkhwa?
I understand that it is ethnicity and race that groups people in Afghanistan? is this true - Tajiks and non-Pashtun people supports India while Pashtuns have their allegiance with their Pashtun brothers across the border in Pakistan controlled Pashtunkhwa?
Pmaitra and thakur_ritesh have given some initial comments on this. But overall it does hold true that Pashtuns are not anti-India. Now coming down even to the Afghan Taliban, if you go by recent reports and interviews from former Taliban members like Abdul Salam Zaef (My LIfe with the Taliban author), you can realise this theme of not being anti-India inherently, atleast not any longer after 9/11 and Pakistan's duplicity coming out at the forefront.I understand that it is ethnicity and race that groups people in Afghanistan? is this true - Tajiks and non-Pashtun people supports India while Pashtuns have their allegiance with their Pashtun brothers across the border in Pakistan controlled Pashtunkhwa?
^I dont know . . . how you have reached the above conclusion . . . but my opinion after lurking for a while on Pashtun Forums is that a good 70% of them are very Anti India . . . and that's among the English speaking western educated lotPmaitra and thakur_ritesh have given some initial comments on this. But overall it does hold true that Pashtuns are not anti-India..
to have diplomatic back channel open with Taliban is a TINA situation in my opinion . . .IMO, our policy should be to have back channels open with the Afghan Taliban, but also emphasize that they will have to respect the constitution and compete in elections as a political party. If the people vote them in power, they can rule Afghanistan, until the next elections. There should also be clear red lines on anti-India terror groups like LeT or Haqqani network and that this would not be acceptable as they are responsible in killing innocent civilians.