ADA Tejas (LCA) News and Discussions

[Enquirer]

So MMRCA 2.0 is a just smoke screen in disguise to order more Rafales later.

Buying another multi-role MMRCA would be plain stupid! India already paid close to $2 billion to Rafale for custom development - a cost that won't get reapportioned to additional aircraft!
IAF should just get another 54 to 72 Rafales and shut up till Tejas Mk2, AMCA arrives!!

 

[lcafanboy]

So MMRCA 2.0 is a just smoke screen in disguise to order more Rafales later.

Yup... Last 2 Rafales of current deal will be assembled in India and that will be final nail in mmrca2 drama coffin.

Next decade will see Rafale and LCA Mk1A and Mk2 and AURA (with nEURON technology) coming in numbers. SAFRAN will be providing parts for Kaveri engine and a complete aeronautical MIC coming up. Next we should negotiate for passenger planes with Airbus industrie and Boeing and one ready to assemble in India should be given collective orders for all Indian carriers....

 

[patriots]

I am in love with this sexy.....look at the color..... and finishing

 

[darshan978]

I am in love with this sexy.....look at the color..... and finishing

you spamming this forum by posting old threads just like manish khan fake account want more likes?? post some good news and useful dont post such useless photos again and again...

 

[vishnugupt]

Is it true Rafale deal includes that 32 Jaguar fighters?? If it is true, then how come an Airforce on the earth which considers Tejas equel to Mig-21++ had agreed for that junk and claimed Rafale deal was best negotiated?...
Just a thought....

 

[patriots]

you spamming this forum by posting old threads just like manish khan fake account want more likes?? post some good news and useful dont post such useless photos again and again...

sorry bro my account is not fake....
and I got this. photo in good resolution so posted here.......

sry for that .....
and being honest... and I am not a teen ager who runs after likes ....

and the latest update on tejas is .hal is preparing sp 10 for flight

and check this out. ....,

and I don't argue with others....... coz I am not an expert........ I am a tejas fan ...that's all

OK I promise.. I won't post anything....
stay happy bro

 

[BON PLAN]

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Well you can say the same about US too there is always competition between design, the F22 vs YF 23 and Boeing design vs Lockheed Martin F35 design to the smallest system.

The one thing Europe isn’t efficient at is attracting best man power in the world, A letter for US Dod does wonders for immigrants.

One thing I notice working for a defence contractor is the number of people going to support the systems in Europe.

I am not trying to belittle European R&D by any means but the way DARPA is going there is just no competition.

It's the same kind of answer than when Admiral Ricover said the french will never be able to developp a fully national SSBN + sub lauch missile (because it was hard to the US best engineers... and to the DARPA).

We just did it.

US guys are always under estimated the others.

 

[BON PLAN]

I know it's french plane, I'm talking about design

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Dassault was at a time consultant for LCA design....

 

[BON PLAN]

Is it true Rafale deal includes that 32 Jaguar fighters?? If it is true, then how come an Airforce on the earth which considers Tejas equel to Mig-21++ had agreed for that junk and claimed Rafale deal was best negotiated?...
Just a thought....

NO. No link between the two.
It's another deal, mainly to facilitate the 2nd order....

 

[BON PLAN]

So MMRCA 2.0 is a just smoke screen in disguise to order more Rafales later.

BINGO !!!!

It's exactly that. If you read carrefully the MMRCA 2 (I did it), you see how it fit perfectly to Rafale... not a hasard.

 

[lcafanboy]

BINGO !!!!

It's exactly that. If you read carrefully the MMRCA 2 (I did it), you see how it fit perfectly to Rafale... not a hasard.

It's tailor made for Rafales. All India specific Upgrades have been funded for in the first 36 Rafale deal itself, so rest won't be having this amount to be paid for, add to it the offset money being invested in DRAL plant and last of the 2 Rafales being produced in India which will help reducing cost substantially. Now if Boeing or SSAB or Lockheed wants to SELL F-18s, Gripen or F-16s (already DUD) they will have to invest in India specific upgrades and then invest in Indian plant and that too within a small time frame........

NO WAY IT IS POSSIBLE. The cost of their fighters will shoot through SKY not Roof while Rafales cost going down even from current rates. GOI will then keep this in front of nation and all competitors along with PAPPU & co. will have SHUT their SHITTY mouth......

 

[Prashant12]

LCA Tejas NAVY

Naval LCA flew its first sortie today with tailhook. #Goa

https://twitter.com/SandeepUnnithan

 

[Babloo Singh]

This fuel tank looks different, what's that white pipe like thing ? is it part of fuel tank ?

Any way good to see NLCA flying again, we need to keep it alive, MK1 as supersonic naval trainer will not only help train our pilots for NLCA MkII / Rafale but can become a potential export product as supersonic trainer.

LCA Tejas NAVY

Naval LCA flew its first sortie today with tailhook. #Goa

https://twitter.com/SandeepUnnithan

 

[Saichand K]

This fuel tank looks different, what's that white pipe like thing ? is it part of fuel tank ?

Any way good to see NLCA flying again, we need to keep it alive, MK1 as supersonic naval trainer will not only help train our pilots for NLCA MkII / Rafale but can become a potential export product as supersonic trainer.

dummy missile/ smoke generator.

 

[Pulkit]

Just wondering.....
If Kaveri in the current stage clears all safety standards, will it be good enough for Tejas MK1 and MK1A.

If Yes Why ? and If No Why?

 

[Pulkit]

Buying another multi-role MMRCA would be plain stupid! India already paid close to $2 billion to Rafale for custom development - a cost that won't get reapportioned to additional aircraft!
IAF should just get another 54 to 72 Rafales and shut up till Tejas Mk2, AMCA arrives!!

Firstly I will like to ask you not to use phrases like "Shut UP" for any part of armed forces.

Secondly
If IAF orders 54 to 72 more Rafales in addition to the current order as pe rmy calculation I did say a year or two back will be left with nothing to procure anything else, which means MK2 and AMCA put on the back burner never to arrive in time.
Given the current budget and year by year increase IAF will be left with money only sufficient to pay salaries and installments.

 

[Pulkit]

Is it true Rafale deal includes that 32 Jaguar fighters?? If it is true, then how come an Airforce on the earth which considers Tejas equel to Mig-21++ had agreed for that junk and claimed Rafale deal was best negotiated?...
Just a thought....

Firstly I will like to say there are no Free Lunches.
So the 32 Jags and 2 Mirage (as per the current news) are the part of Rafale deal.
I believe it must have went in a way that French would have be adamant about the price and India wanted to get some thing more out of it. So must have asked for / offered 32+2 aircrafts.

Given the need of spares and shortfall which impacts heavily on the squadron if they got it at the price of Junk not a bad deal at all.

 

[Enquirer]

Firstly I will like to ask you not to use phrases like "Shut UP" for any part of armed forces.

Secondly
If IAF orders 54 to 72 more Rafales in addition to the current order as pe rmy calculation I did say a year or two back will be left with nothing to procure anything else, which means MK2 and AMCA put on the back burner never to arrive in time.
Given the current budget and year by year increase IAF will be left with money only sufficient to pay salaries and installments.

The additional Rafales would be in lieu of the 100+ MMRCA that IAF is currently shopping for - not in addition. If there's no budget then they won't be shopping (simple logic, eh?). IAF has been approved for 100+ 'foreign fighters', 200+ Tejas Mk2 & AMCAs (as and when they become available)

Finally, I can express myself any which way I want without needing to bow to dictates from someone else.

 

[Kshithij]

If IAF orders 54 to 72 more Rafales in addition to the current order as pe rmy calculation I did say a year or two back will be left with nothing to procure anything else, which means MK2 and AMCA put on the back burner never to arrive in time.
Given the current budget and year by year increase IAF will be left with money only sufficient to pay salaries and installments.

The budget is dependent on requirement and is not absolute. If there is a requirement, there will be higher budget. Why assume that budget is made arbitrarily without keeping needs in mind?

Just wondering.....
If Kaveri in the current stage clears all safety standards, will it be good enough for Tejas MK1 and MK1A.

If Yes Why ? and If No Why?

Yes, Kaveri is capable of being used. Though I am not sure if it will be for Tejas MK1 or Mk2. I don't think a new engine is being developed for Tejas MK2 but instead the Kaveri itself will be made into 100kN engine by modifications. Also, making an engine for just 120 planes appears to be meaningless. Tejas Mk1 will be discontinued and replaced by Tejas Mk2 as soon as possible. MK1A is just an attemt to develop the subsystems and technology which can be used in Mk2

 

[Enquirer]

Just wondering.....
If Kaveri in the current stage clears all safety standards, will it be good enough for Tejas MK1 and MK1A.

If Yes Why ? and If No Why?

Even if it clears all tests, Kaveri is still not suitable for Mk1/Mk1A because the current thrust of Kaveri is lower than F404!
Also, mating Tejas & Kaveri (even if lower thrust is acceptable) will push the schedule by 4-5 years!!!!