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  1. Armand2REP

    Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

    One must examine the totality of the situation. The J-15 has been deemed unsafe for operations due to its high crash rate so a replacement is desperately being studied. The limited endurance of the vessel limits it to a few weeks of operation before it must return to port for extensive...
  2. Armand2REP

    Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

    Those metrics matter plenty when you are parking them in the hanger deck where they get serviced and stored during heavy sea states. The deck footprint is irrelevant for long term operations. You can't leave them on the deck in heavy sea states so you would have to disengage from a combat zone...
  3. Armand2REP

    Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

    The Soviets had the same problem with their naval Flankers. China's biggest problem is a faulty flight control system before you ever get to the tactical problems.
  4. Armand2REP

    Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

    There are more dimensions than just width. The Su-33 is quite a bit longer and taller than a MiG-29. The MiG-29K has 10% LOWER wing loading than the Su-27K and has a much higher thrust to weight ratio making it a better choice for a carrier fighter.
  5. Armand2REP

    Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

    Since the MiG-29 takes up far less space than an Su-33 you can compare them as they carry similar numbers. The max payload of an Su-33 with half fuel is 2 tonnes. The MiG-29K can carry the same thanks to its lighter weight and improved engines. Honestly, both ships are handicapped in the same...
  6. Armand2REP

    Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

    What is a CVN 16 & 17? China doesn't have a nuke carriers, only the US and France.
  7. Armand2REP

    Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

    Let's see a Russian navy parade... or French... or Japan... It doesn't make much sense to hold a parade if the people who pay for it can't enjoy it.
  8. Armand2REP

    Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

    Yeah but China is the only one who does them so far off the coast no one can see them but Xi. It is a vanity project for his own self image.
  9. Armand2REP

    Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

    It is literally as if Xi asked his admirals. how many ships can we pull out of dock for a camera op... this many. Do two laps and go back to sleep.
  10. Armand2REP

    Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

    All equipment of the FSU was distributed among its states. The hull of the Varyag went to Ukraine because Russia didn't want it. The Ukraine first tried to sell it to them and then offered to gift it to them. Russia didn't want it because it was rusted not even worth scrapping. By the time it...
  11. Armand2REP

    Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

    The cost of Shi Lang has made Dalian shipyard as one of the few profitable yards in the country. The costs for her refit were exorbitant needing components from across the FSU to complete it. Did China gain the knowledge needed to clone a failed Kuznetsov design... perhaps. The Shi Lang will...
  12. Armand2REP

    Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

    Re: China's aircraft carrier: in name only They are useful to any country that spends the money to keep them combat ready. They are only prestige toys if they are not ready for war.
  13. Armand2REP

    Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

    Shi Lang is looking good...
  14. Armand2REP

    Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

    Of course it isn't an E-2. It is a converted Y-7 with the cloned Ivchenko AI-20 for the An-12. Hp is 4,250 at take-off and 2,600 at cruise. With a dry weight of 1140kg it is twice as heavy as the 600kg engine of the Y-7.
  15. Armand2REP

    Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

    How do you expect to get it off the deck without catapults?
  16. Armand2REP

    Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

    This article gives a good synopsis on its history... All about Varyag, China�s 1st aircraft carrier CCTV News - CNTV English March 3rd 2001, "Varyag" finally reached its destination... it has been in Chinese hands for 11 1/2 years.
  17. Armand2REP

    Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

    Who says China produced them? It is well known they bought the unused arrestors from Nikita Ukraine.
  18. Armand2REP

    Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

    You mean right so many times. It was your misinformation minister that got J-20 wrong.
  19. Armand2REP

    Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

    They have it blurred so they must be hiding something.
  20. Armand2REP

    Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

    Why you posting pics of Russian gear? Su-33 obviously... :laugh:
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