Why the United States Promotes India's Great-Power Ambitions

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Negative, i go more with what that article said which is pretty old and what we have seen over the last 3-4 years. No country acts out of charity. But yes interests converge. I am of the belief that the US intent is genuine. We should trust, but verify and get going. We missed the bus in the last century, we should not in this one.
 

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Negative, i go more with what that article said which is pretty old and what we have seen over the last 3-4 years. No country acts out of charity. But yes interests converge. I am of the belief that the US intent is genuine. We should trust, but verify and get going. We missed the bus in the last century, we should not in this one.
I have a minar in Hyd to sell.Hope you are intrested to buy it
 

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It is in yankee interest that pak-India-china are at each others throats. Currently pak and china are playing there part very well.
No need to blame others, India is doing her part quite well.
 

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what do you mean pariahs,you racist.when china stood at top of world,american land even were rife with barbarians.you american suck people's blood from all over the word to mantain your wastful life style.you people should reflect why are there so many people except extremists dislike american.because you are on behalf of the word arrogance.just look what have you military done,how many innocent people have you army killed under the pretext of counter strike.what you adovate such as freedom,fairness,universal love,just applies to you people instead of ones out of america.to the rest of the word,US uses jungle-rule policy. it's not hypocrite,or what?
Can you foresee Europe coming out of NATO and joining against the US. Its not just having an alliance but having an alliance of the caliber of NATO, having other countries ( including EU) allowing your military bases to operate there. Hell even Russia is now under NATO shield ... It's not going to happen, let alone the fact India has no ambition for it to happen- because of its non-aligned nature and the Chinese, well, their BFF's are the world's pariahs ... hated by 98%.
 
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what do you mean pariahs,you racist.when china stood at top of world,american land even were rife with barbarians.you american suck people's blood from all over the word to mantain your wastful life style.you people should reflect why are there so many people except extremists dislike american.because you are on behalf of the word arrogance.just look what have you military done,how many innocent people have you army killed under the pretext of counter strike.what you adovate such as freedom,fairness,universal love,just applies to you people instead of ones out of america.to the rest of the word,US uses jungle-rule policy. it's not hypocrite,or what?
Ah, the blood sucking yanks. It's a breeze to bash those losers now through the internet eh? How convenient.
 

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what do you mean pariahs,you racist.when china stood at top of world,american land even was rife with barbarians.you american suck people's blood from all over the work to mantain your wastful life.you people should reflect why are there so many people except extremists dislike american.bucause you are on behalf of the word arrogance.
Culture and blah blah. Seems like Chinese will start a new propaganda claiming "Everything comes from China" and "Everything belongs to China from Historical/Geographical perspective". May be South East Asia and India's North East belongs to them because the natives are racially similar to them. May be all oceans belong to them because Chinese are capable of eating anything that moves.
 

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If we were doing our part well then we would already be in bed with the yanks.

But we aren't so i suggest you look in the mirror.

I agree that India took the wrong turn in the last century. That's why it took so long for it to achieve where it is now. In your case if you look at the mirror you see exactly your avatar.
 

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I agree that India took the wrong turn in the last century. That's why it took so long for it to achieve where it is now. In your case if you look at the mirror you see exactly your avatar.
India was fortunate to have a few good fellas in our Central government who kept India an inch away from the shadows of Uncle Sam, otherwise we were going to get ruined like our western neighbor. Just because we see a threat in China doesn't mean that we will sit in USA's lap, we are not so naive. We haven't forgotten USA's role in 1971 war. We haven't forgotten how CIA promoted and financed insurgency in Punjab and NE.

Alliance between India and USA can be described as an alliance of necessity at best, both sides are being opportunist, once the purpose is served, we will part away and go separate ways. One US report has identified BRICS as a potential threat to their national security, and USA's presence in Indian Ocean is a threat to the national security of India, if not today, then tomorrow.
 
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I agree that India took the wrong turn in the last century. That's why it took so long for it to achieve where it is now. In your case if you look at the mirror you see exactly your avatar.
Are you ignorant or naive ?

We were in shambles in 1947 and if we would have opened the doors of capitalism to western corporations they would have fleeced the country dry by now and today we'd be no different than africa. Those years of socialism helped Indian industries to stand on there footing, you think our companies, farmers etc would have been able to compete with the west ?...guess what it served its purpose.
 

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India was fortunate to have a few good fellas in our Central government who kept India an inch away from the shadows of Uncle Sam, otherwise we were going to get ruined like our western neighbor. Just because we see a threat in China doesn't mean that we will sit in USA's lap, we are not so naive. We haven't forgotten USA's role in 1971 war. We haven't forgotten how CIA promoted and financed insurgency in Punjab and NE.

Alliance between India and USA can be described as an alliance of necessity at best, both sides are being opportunist, once the purpose is served, we will part away and go separate ways. One US report has identified BRICS as a potential threat to their national security, and USA's presence in Indian Ocean is a threat to the national security of India, if not today, then tomorrow.
But you have forgotten 100 years of British raj and are quite pally with them. 1 ship in 71 vs 100 yrs of brutal raj - oye what balanced thoughts.

If your theory of never forget was to be in place then Muslims should never forget the Gujarat riots regardless of who started it.. innocent Muslims were killed or their mosque being abolished?

This is not a zero sum game but an eye opener to see that the very west policies you despise is what has opened your markets . The very west policies that are being pushed with India is to take it from " lamb" status in Asia to a powerhouse. You cannot deny the fact that India is being weak and too pleasing to friends and foe alike. take the international water incident with china- or any incident with Chinese military infiltration- I always read Indian govt trying to deny and please china... thats weak.
 

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If your theory of never forget was to be in place then Muslims should never forget the Gujarat riots regardless of who started it.. innocent Muslims were killed or their mosque being abolished?
Spoken like a true American.
 

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what do you mean pariahs,you racist.when china stood at top of world,american land even were rife with barbarians.you american suck people's blood from all over the word to mantain your wastful life style.you people should reflect why are there so many people except extremists dislike american.because you are on behalf of the word arrogance.just look what have you military done,how many innocent people have you army killed under the pretext of counter strike.what you adovate such as freedom,fairness,universal love,just applies to you people instead of ones out of america.to the rest of the word,US uses jungle-rule policy. it's not hypocrite,or what?
dislike america?

Let me ask you- who re your allies in the world? Iran, Previously Iraq, terrorist haven Pakistan, Syria, Libya, genocidal Sudan, genocidal African leaders, mynmar... this is the quality of your so called allies...
 
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But you have forgotten 100 years of British raj and are quite pally with them. 1 ship in 71 vs 100 yrs of brutal raj - oye what balanced thoughts.

If your theory of never forget was to be in place then Muslims should never forget the Gujarat riots regardless of who started it.. innocent Muslims were killed or their mosque being abolished?

This is not a zero sum game but an eye opener to see that the very west policies you despise is what has opened your markets . The very west policies that are being pushed with India is to take it from " lamb" status in Asia to a powerhouse. You cannot deny the fact that India is being weak and too pleasing to friends and foe alike. take the international water incident with china- or any incident with Chinese military infiltration- I always read Indian govt trying to deny and please china... thats weak.
can you give a link for mosques demolished?? This is first time I am hearing this.
 

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Spoken like a true American.
Maybe being one gives me the potential to ask poignant factual questions :) j/k. Did you read in what context I posted that? i.e. if his claim is we will never forget one darn ship being sent and nothing was done with it I may add in 71... then if you have the no " forget" attitude ... would it not then be fair to ask- my statement you quoted?
 

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Maybe being one gives me the potential to ask poignant factual questions :) j/k. Did you read in what context I posted that? i.e. if his claim is we will never forget one darn ship being sent and nothing was done with it I may add in 71... then if you have the no " forget" attitude ... would it not then be fair to ask- my statement you quoted?
One ship?? It was the 7th fleet!!!!
Nixon wanted to nuke us for god's sake.

And your example was merely meant to flame the other party, you had already made your point with your British Raj remark.
His point still stands, how can we trust an "ally" that did not think twice before doing another Hiroshima on us for the sake of our greatest enemy
What has changed in the last 40 years?
 

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To start it was not in Gujurat. It was not demolished during the riots in Gujurat but about 15 years earlier.
I was making two separate cases , although the larger point was? should you always hold old grievances to heart and if you should lets be balanced
 

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