Uyghurs 'face fight for existence' against China: activist

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show me 1 source that says chinese gov blamed pakistani gov for xinjiang unrest......prc will deal with ETIM separists by ourselves and we dont have tradition to blame other govs for our internal problems....

besides....u aint a usual pakistani for sure....no any pakistani ever said chinese gov blamed pakistani gov for xinjiang and u r acting as if u wanted that to happen......how odd...but still interesting to say something with u.......
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China details overseas links for Xinjiang militants | DAWN.COM
Xinjiang unrest: China blames unrest on Pakistan-trained terrorists – The Express Tribune

next time try to google your own homework rather than asking others.Oh but then i forgot you guys live behind iron curtains where every info reaching to you people is heavily censored by CCP.beyond that everything is western paropaganda for you so i gave you only pakistani paper's links.

TTP has claimed responsibility for the murder of a Chinese woman who was visiting a market in Peshawar. The reasoning given by Taliban spokesman Muhammad Afridi should send a wake up call.

"Our comrades carried out the attack in Peshawar which killed the Chinese tourist," Muhammad Afridi, a spokesman for a faction of the Pakistani Taliban from the Darra Adam Khel area, told Reuters by telephone from an undisclosed location"¦Afridi said the militants were also demanding that China halt what he called its support for the Pakistani government's campaign against militants.

The Xinjiang province's state-run website said nine assailants charged and slashed a crowd of civilians during Tuesday's violence in the Xinjiang community of Yecheng, killing 13 and injuring many others. Police then fatally shot seven attackers and detained two others, the report said.

Earlier state media reports put the overall toll at 12, describing it as a terrorist attack and saying 10 civilians and two assailants were killed. However, an overseas Uighur group, the Germany-based World Uyghur Congress, said local Muslims were lashing out over government oppression and that most victims were armed Chinese security personnel.
Militants threaten Pakistan-China relations � New Pakistan



Alas chinese lady was not lucky.if she should have taken you advice and just visited pakistani defence website instead of travelling to pakistan she would have been alive today as you are.But then she paid the price of chinese brutality on the Uyghurs
 
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The innocent die when the Govt dopes!
 

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CCP govt gonna pay for all its omissions and commissions with mujahids right under its seat.
 

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gist of above video: one chinese engineer escapes from taliban and other chinese engineer got injured and recaptured by taliban again while they were shifting them to other hideout.
 
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Again red mosque operations were done on chinese govt insistence for which also china will be made to pay for the death of students.
 

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Now that the reports from Pakistan and Xinhua itself has been appended, I don't think our good friends from China can brush it under the carpet with their usual angry or innocently aggrieved postures and downright denial of the truth.

Of course, one cannot blame them since their news is doctored and their access to the world wide Internet is controlled if not denied.

News does not reach them!
 

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We are waiting.:rofl:
your wait is over now mujahid has already started their works in xinjiang and form their will proceed to beijing .in the meanwhile if you want to run then you can to other country.
 

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your wait is over now mujahid has already started their works in xinjiang and form their will proceed to beijing .in the meanwhile if you want to run then you can to other country.
Nice, let us see what will happen.:rofl:
 

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This is what the DAWN, the leading newspaper of China's bosom friend, Pakistan, has to show!



The Uighur community of China

An Uighur ethnic boy holds a plastic watering can as he stands in front of his home, which will be demolished, in Aksu, Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region. – Photo by Reuters.



Uighur ethnic women wearing scarves collect bricks removed from old buildings and place them onto a truck at a demolition site next to a residential area in Aksu, Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region. – Photo by Reuters.



Students from ethnic minorities give the Young Pioneer's salute to their teacher (R) at a primary school in Uqturpan county, Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region. The Chinese characters above the blackboard on the wall read, "Always be prepared to strive for the cause of communism". – Photo by Reuters.



Ethnic Uighur food vendors cover themselves with plastic to take shelter from the rain in Uqturpan county, Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region. – Photo by Reuters.

http://dawn.com/2012/05/04/the-uighur-community-of-china/

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China begins crack down on terror in areas bordering PoK

China has launched a "strike hard" campaign to crack down on terrorism in its far-western Xinjiang region, officials have said, outlining new plans to boost security deployments in remote areas and towns near the border with Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK) to combat "growing" and "imported" extremism.

Zhang Chunxian, Communist Party secretary of the Muslim-majority Xinjiang-Uighur "autonomous region," recently addressed a high-level government meeting in Urumqi to outline new anti-terror measures, State-run Xinhua news agency said in a report.

Mr. Zhang issued an order for police to "strike down hard and fast on attackers" and for officials to "work more closely with the masses to detect terrorist activity." The measures include a "tougher stance" to incidents of violence, monitoring religious activities and boosting deployments of law enforcement personnel in remote border towns in southern Xinjiang, according to Chinese analysts.

Xinhua quoted an unnamed security expert as saying the government was concerned by "growing religious extremism" that was "imported from neighbouring volatile central and southwest Asian regions."

One Chinese analyst said it was clear that China's main concern was directed at Pakistan, although the government is reluctant to name directly its "all-weather" ally. ...
The Hindu : News / International : China begins crack down on terror in areas bordering PoK
 

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Activists call on Ma to speak on China repression

Human rights activists urged President Ma Ying-jeou (馬英九) yesterday to press China on political reforms in the speech he gives on his inaugural for a second term on May 20.

Two recent events in China — the dramatic escape of blind human rights activist Chen Guangchen (陳光誠) from illegal house arrest and a deadly clash between Chinese and ethnic Uighurs in Xinjiang Province — revealed worsening human rights conditions in the country, the activists said.

Activists call on Ma to speak on China repression - Taipei Times

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Even Free Chinese are speaking out for the Uighurs!
 

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Pak-China ties changing?

Zafar Hilaly
Saturday, April 21, 2012

One constant in our foreign relations since the early 1960s has been our singularly positive relationship with China, unlike our ties with other countries, which have had their highs and lows. But how well we manage this relationship will determine whether it proves to be an all weather highway or something more mundane.



While our geostrategic value to China is self-evident, especially our ocean frontage, which would give them commercial access to the sprawling Indian Ocean and the countries on its rim, yet there are challenges to be met before that can be turned into a reality.



The problems are numerous, like religious extremism that has made us particularly inhospitable to foreigners; congenital political infighting; gross economic mismanagement and a serious erosion of state authority and state coherence. Another problem has been the mediocrity of our leaders who are totally unschooled in foreign affairs. If these problems persist, China may conclude that we are too big a risk for them to make grandiose long-term investments.



And that's not all. Our international isolation is another risk that might make China cautious about strategic investments which would increase its dependence on us while exposing them to danger and uncertainty. All of this may cause China to revise its thinking and adopt a much less ambitious approach – not withstanding all the gibberish about our friendship being 'higher than K-2 and deep than the Indian Ocean'.



Hence, there was alarm when the Chinese foreign ministry spokesman praised Zardari's trip to India. Not just that. He also accused 'a country in South Asia', for providing sanctuary to six Muslim Uighur leaders of the East Turkestan Islamic Movement who 'not only threaten China's national security' but, according to the official Xinhua news agency, 'poses the most direct and real safety threat that China faces.' Xinhua also made brief references to how important India-Pakistan normalisation is for China today because Beijing sees subcontinental stability to be in its strategic interest.



Such candour from the reticent Chinese is unusual but unique when directed at Pakistan, even if it is insinuated. Though implicit the message seems clear enough: our very special relationship is losing its lustre and restoring it will now require a new perspective and an updated mindset on our part in a vastly changed environment.



Of course, Pakistan has not connived in the Uighur rebel presence on our soil. And yes, the Chinese have been remiss in their handling of the Muslim Uighurs, a proud and independent people, who once had their own country (East Turkestan Republic or permutations of that) even if briefly.



The Uighurs face religious discrimination in China. They resent being forced to use a state approved version of the Holy Quran. And they have other gripes such as control of mosques and additional restrictions. Competing with other ethnic groups especially the more dominant Han Chinese is another source of tension and misgiving.



But tolerating a separatist movement on our soil is an entirely different matter. No one tolerates separatism or the training of armed separatists on foreign soil. Our own conduct is a good example of our intolerance of such separatism directed at us. Besides, in Xinxiang's case, we are not looking simply at separatism but also at armed religious extremism (Al-Qaeda backed) who are using ethnic nationalism for ulterior motives and that too in a province of China where the Uighurs themselves, separatists and non-separatists alike, are not in the majority to begin with.



And lest some forget, China has a valid historical claim to Xinjiang. It rightly fears that the independence movement of the Uighurs, which is partly funded if not led by outside sponsors, who seek to grievously weaken China and set back the rapid economic progress that Xinjiang, has made over the past two decades. Besides, internal stability is China's key concern, especially now that it is on a self-sustaining economic growth trajectory. So it can be expected to react very strongly to any such threats.



The Chinese government statement also suggests that Beijing takes a neutral stance on the India-Pak Kashmir dispute and is more interested in an amicable solution than continued feuding. The India-Pak hostility once served as an opportunity for China to develop a special relationship with us in order to bog down India in the subcontinent, but the situation has changed vastly.



China and India are no longer regional powers with purely localised preoccupations. China is, and India aspires to be, a world power and their interests are far more wide ranging. Indeed, learning to live with their unresolved border disputes and keeping their rivalry within manageable limits has displaced the old world syndrome in which they once lived.



In other words, China believes that stability in the subcontinent is much more in its interest than backing us against India, or letting its bilateral issues with India get out of hand.



Actually, China now regards India as being among the key players on the international economic scene with whom it shares a similar agenda for reform of global financial institutions. Their membership of BRICS, a new global grouping of emerging economies, is a significant illustration of Beijing's new orientation.



China, therefore, like other countries, is constantly readjusting/recalibrating its strategic perspective and its regional diplomacy and we should be doing the same thing rather than continue clinging on to old perspectives, policies, prescriptions, and hang-ups.



That simply won't do because our situation too, whether internal or external, has also changed greatly. For a start we are virtually isolated regionally and internationally. Even the special relationship with China is fading. So our foremost concern must be with internal recovery (jobs, countless other things, including bijli, pani, and countless other things) for which an enabling environment is needed.



Much will therefore depend on our relationship with India and finding a way out of the Afghan imbroglio.



A start with India can be made in the aftermath of the Siachen tragedy by finding an interim solution that puts an end to military confrontation on that glacier where even the endangered snow-leopards dare not go, not to mention the abominable Himalayan snowman. We also need other mutually reinforcing steps to steadily turn the relationship around.



Alas, for us, so much has changed around us, and so much more may change in the years just ahead that we cannot continue to pursue old world ambitions especially with old world mindsets. We are in serious danger of being left so far behind that catching up may become an impossible task – just survival alone will become our daily grind.



Decades have passed, yet Pakistan and India are virtually where they were on almost all issues. It's high time they embraced a dynamic approach and realised that absolute solutions of their complicated problems are best left to the next generation – who hopefully will be less Kautilayan than ours.



Old style nationalism and the 'nation state' with its militaristic culture, historical distortions, machismo, etc, are passé. That has become a big drag. Though still important, the 'nation state' concept needs a makeover in order to make it more relevant.



In the final analysis, it's the jihadist mentality that has stalled our progress and brought us to such a sorry pass. And it's them and the victims of their political influence, both within and outside our establishment, who continue to enjoy the upper hand, while most people, including the Chinese (and others in the outside world) wait for signs of stirring and rejuvenation.



We cannot risk losing our special relationship with Beijing, which we will if we can't make the transition from the old world to the new one, both with its opportunities and challenges.



The writer is a former ambassador.

Pak-China ties changing? - Zafar Hilaly
Don't underestimate the effect of pan Islamism that has seen resurgence after Iraq.

While the Ambassador is all for good relations with China, he has no hesitation in stating that China is repressive towards Muslims of Xinjiang.

If an educated and erudite Muslim who was adept at diplomatic niceties can cast asunder diplomacy and hold China as repressive to Muslims, then there is much to be said.

Unlike him when the wild and illiterate and unwashed jihadis find it necessary, China will bleed.
 
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when?

The Jihadis are no fools.

It will be at a place and time of their choosing.
 

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its already started.hans has made a great mistake by making muslims as their enemy.you future generations for 1000 years will regret this.

Already started? really?
Why I dont know any thing about it?There are tens thousand of foreigners in China and they did not feel it either.

May be your war with China is not so powerful. Make it bigger.:cool2:
 

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Already started? really?
Why I dont know any thing about it?There are tens thousand of foreigners in China and they did not feel it either.

May be your war with China is not so powerful. Make it bigger.:cool2:
bigger.thats why ccp was crying since last 1 yr over xinjiang.think u were sleeping all these time
 

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There are tens thousand of foreigners in China and they did not feel it either.
Because they are not allowed in Sinkiang.
 

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