Trichy Assault Rifle

[Kunal Biswas]

re: What is best calibre for an Assault Rifle?

Kunal please explain how this gun can hit a target beyond 400mts as the effective range of M43 when fired from ARs are below 250mts.400+ range could be achieved only it is fired from LMGs like Rpk or tabuk sniper which have long barells.Here in case of Indian weapon the barell is not that much lengthy to shoot over a distance of 400mts.I think the range and over effectiveness is much hyped as usually happens in every OFB products.

Effective range of M43 fired from AKM is 200ms straight..

From LMG such as RPD & tabuk is 600ms..

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Its barrel length is more than AKM and possible had to do with Rifling Groves, 400ms from new genration Rifles with barrel length of 460+mm is quite possible..

 

[Akim]

re: What is best calibre for an Assault Rifle?

I do not know what targets in IA. Here targets for firing from an AR:
- - a pectoral target with circles is put on 100 meters and she does not fall
- - a pectoral target is 200 meters
- - a half-length target for novices (later machine gun calculation, heavy grenade launcher) is 300 meters
- it is a figure in the full-length - 400 meters
- -APC are 500 meters.
10 cartridges are given out soldier . First three shots single on a figure with circles. Other by short gunfire on distace 300, 400 meters. A norm is handed over, if all targets are staggered.
This exercise of пis intended and for АКМ and АК- 74 (without a difference).

 

[SPIEZ]

re: What is best calibre for an Assault Rifle?

Akim more about the accuracy of the AK with the M43 cartridge.

 

[Akim]

re: What is best calibre for an Assault Rifle?

Akim more about the accuracy of the AK with the M43 cartridge.

There are 100 meters on distance, where firing goes on a target with circles, a difference is not present between АК- 74 and АКМ. And in the distance 400 meters from 7,62 it is simpler to shoot what from 5,45. Less than it is necessary amendments. Main to shoot short automatic fire. . After the third shot, getting is practically impossible.

 

[SPIEZ]

re: What is best calibre for an Assault Rifle?

There are 100 meters on distance, where firing goes on a target with circles, a difference is not present between АК- 74 and АКМ. And in the distance 400 meters from 7,62 it is simpler to shoot what from 5,45. Less than it is necessary amendments. Main to shoot automatic fire. . After the third shot, getting is practically impossible.

Sorry, you are saying that there's no difference when firing within 100m, but when firing at 400m it is difficult for the M43?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

re: What is best calibre for an Assault Rifle?

Sorry, you are saying that there's no difference when firing within 100m, but when firing at 400m it is difficult for the M43?

You can shoot beyond 400m with M43, Given your barrel length is longer..

 

[Akim]

re: What is best calibre for an Assault Rifle?

Sorry, you are saying that there's no difference when firing within 100m, but when firing at 400m it is difficult for the M43?

In the distance 400 meters from a short turn are easily "taken" off full-length target. In the distance anymore, a purpose is necessary to be yet seen. But in the target of APC shot is possible.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Re: What is best calibre for an Assault Rifle?

Though this is a good combination to arm a army but 7.62x39mm are not good as newer generation Bullets..

I am not disagree with Akim, But that what i feel as i have not seen same HV bullet of M43 as 5.56mm Nato..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

New Information coming up :

As per 2011-12 MOD report..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

 

[AshutoshNSingh]

Re: INSAS Indian Small Arms System

Trichy rifle looks like a slightly improvised 7.62x39 mm variant of FN FAL.

 

[EzioAltaïr]

Re: INSAS Indian Small Arms System

Trichy rifle looks like a slightly improvised 7.62x39 mm variant of FN FAL.

Slightly?? Everything in there looks like a direct copy, except magazine, P-rail and carry handle.

 

[ALBY]

Re: INSAS Indian Small Arms System

Slightly?? Everything in there looks like a direct copy, except magazine, P-rail and carry handle.

If i am correct then this same improvised m43 compatable fnfal is alreaddy made by soome foreign gun manufacturers and i had seen the picture of it inthe assault rifle thread.That clone of akm aka ofb made AK7 was way better than this adventure.Waiting to see FN pressing chaarges against ofb for copying their product with out license.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Continue discussion here..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Re: INSAS Indian Small Arms System

Are you sarcastic or serious ?

That clone of akm aka ofb made AK7 was way better than this adventure.Waiting to see FN pressing chaarges against ofb for copying their product with out license.

 

[ALBY]

Re: INSAS Indian Small Arms System

Are you sarcastic or serious ?

Actually both.Remember the delegation from ishmaz threatened to file charges against drdo when they saw ak7 in the defexpo citing copying their AK design?The same may happen against our ttricchy assault rifle also.
Plus what is now the need for invention of a new rifle when the IA is actually in favour of multicals and also there is local production of multiicaliber rifles gonna happen?Also the accuracy and range whichh is said to be attaiined by this rifle is highly optimistic considering the length of barell is only a little bit more lengthier or than the akm.
Also why drdo didnt go for a weapon in the platform of insas instead based on fal?
Eveen if drdo was so muchh desperate to make any m43 firing weaapon thhey coulld have made any on the basis of finnish m92 which is considered to be the most reliable,accuurate weapon in this league.

 

[sayareakd]

@ALBY, if you improve upon product it is not violation of patent.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Adding to Sayareakd Sir post, AK-7 share same design of AKM except the furniture where as TAR is mix of AKM also FAL..

Drdo multi-cal is a very known & old regarding this matter, Regarding barrel length issue you can compare AKM & SKS range with same ammo, DRDO dont work on its own, Only what written in GSQR..

While my view is why not on make on Insas which is most reliable,accurate AR in IA, Must be with GSQR related too, If you note the Rifle is tested for Paramilitary.

Actually both.Remember the delegation from ishmaz threatened to file charges against drdo when they saw ak7 in the defexpo citing copying their AK design?The same may happen against our ttricchy assault rifle also.

Plus what is now the need for invention of a new rifle when the IA is actually in favour of multicals and also there is local production of multiicaliber rifles gonna happen?Also the accuracy and range whichh is said to be attaiined by this rifle is highly optimistic considering the length of barell is only a little bit more lengthier or than the akm. Also why drdo didnt go for a weapon in the platform of insas instead based on fal?

Eveen if drdo was so muchh desperate to make any m43 firing weaapon thhey coulld have made any on the basis of finnish m92 which is considered to be the most reliable,accuurate weapon in this league.

 

[DaTang]

Function aside, the design are too 1970s.
It is like we are walking into an antique gun show.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

You sure ? If we walk with your view FN & AK are 70s too..

Function aside, the design are too 1970s.,It is like we are walking into an antique gun show.